UK Atheists Hope to Eliminate Jedi Population

[Caliostro]

You're right, it shouldn't matter. But it does matter. People who write in Jedi are actually doing the opposite of what most of them want. They are saying that they are religious which results in the government giving more weight to religions in general (but not to Jedis which would be hysterical).

Sure, the government should ignore any write-ins like Jedi, Mickey Mousism, etc. But the fact is that they get millions of these forms and no one goes over each one. Any form of religion = "I am religious" PERIOD.

What these "UK Atheists" are saying is: If you want the government to believe that there's a higher population of religious people to cater to, then go ahead and put down a religion. But if that's not your intention, you should know that's what you're doing. I would say "thanks for the info" if I lived in the UK.

Here's a thought: instead of diverting all this effort and energy into trying to passive aggressively force people not to write down whatever, why not use all that effort and energy into explaining to the government that it doesn't fucking matter anyways?

Cause this is like someone walking up to their doctor going "oh gee, this cancer sure is giving me an headache", and instead of surgery and chemo the doctor prescribes some aspirins...

Treat the cause, not the symptoms.

 

[tkioz]

The religion question is entirely optional, it quite clearly says on the form (which I have in front of me) "this question is voluntary" so Mr Cameron (who isn't the guy in charge of the census anyway) isn't really 'not minding his own business'.

Even if answering is voluntary, asking about something that's not your business is rude.

The government's bound to mess something up anyway, why not make their lives easier and do it for them?

Tell me about it, I once had a phone survey by the state government asking how important fast internet was to me and one of the "voluntary" questions, mind you in a survey about internet access, was what was my sexual orientation... I mean FFS relevance people?

 

[Gavmando]

There's a joke about it being the same thing as Scientology in there, but I wont say it.

 

[YamadaJisho]

Ugh. Why is it always the Atheists who are so intollerant of other people's religions? You dont hear Bhuddists complaining about people saying they follow the force. You don't hear Christians moaning about the Jedi. Hell, you don't even hear anything from the Muslims about it. It's always teh Atheists who are so keen to push their religion and beliefs on everyone else, and if you don't follow them, "you're stupid". I get so tired of their non-sensicle, pseudo-scientific, completely intollerant crap. If they just shut up and let people believe as they wished, like 90% of everyone from every religion does, then there would be no problem.

 

[kuolonen]

How bizarre, UK is the home of Games Workshop and people put "jedi" instead of "chaos undivided" as religion? Heresy most foul this is.

 

[gigastrike]

Now I would put "Jedi" down just to spite such a*holes.

What do you care what I believe, more to the point you're trying to enforce beliefs now?
These guys may have missed a few days on the calender, it's not 1800 anymore...

They're militant atheists, what did you expect? Most of them probably joined up because they hate the idea of religion with a burning passion anyway.

 

[SeanSeanston]

What if I get a red pen and scrawl BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD across religion.

Will they file that under 'other'?

"Sir, there is a problem with your census form..."
"Really? What might that be, kind sir?"
"In the box marked 'Religion', you put 'FOR THE EMPEROR!!!' in capital letters across half of the page."

They are by far the most serious and annoying folks around whenever the topic comes up. I put them up there with the Jesus freaks who get in your face to save your soul. They are simply the other side of the isle, haha.

Kind of like how anti-fascists often seem to cause a ruckus just as much as fascists themselves. Their main difference being: one group uses the swastika, the other uses a crossed-out swastika.

But I think a question that must be asked in such discussions as these is:
WTF is a religion anyway?
What is meant to go on inside the mind of a person purporting to hold "No Religion" anyway? It would appear to imply a complete lack of ideology or philosophy or indeed opinion of any great strength whatsoever.

Perhaps the simple "Atheist" would be more appropriate, when it seems that the lack of a belief in any gods is implicitly of real interest here.

Unless we're going to start saying that Jainism isn't a real religion now just because it suits certain folk at this certain time.

Hey, jediism makes more sense than the abrahamic religions, so why cut it out?

TBH, I think they both make more sense than the field of Quantum Physics, and THAT is actually meant to be actually real and you're supposed to actually believe such things.

To be quite perfectly honest, if someone finds the idea of an invisible man in the sky to be absurd by its mere initial appearance... its "obvious" contradictions or fantasticism such as they feel obliged to reject it entirely out of hand without a second thought, they should stay WELL AWAY from any real science of any depth because what IS real and what we know to be true (and figure to be likely true) is often many times harder to swallow than anything in any religion known to man and would probably make their rather limited heads explode.

According to Quantum Physics: Events in the future can affect events in the past. Sounds absurd and full of contradiction and bull****, but that's too bad when it seems to be true. Blows an invisible man in the sky out of the water IMO.

So TBQH, whether something seems to "make sense" to some randomer on the street, shouldn't really come into it IMHO.

EDIT:

How bizarre, UK is the home of Games Workshop and people put "jedi" instead of "chaos undivided" as religion? Heresy most foul this is.

Yeah, this.

FFS :/

No love for Nurgle?

I don't think the Atheists are going to win this one. Atheism doesn't even have 1 god. Chaos has ****ing FOUR of them. Yeah. DEAL WITH IT.

 

[MikeOfThunder]

Just filled it in. I was tempted but chose Non-religious

 

[Veldel]

If I even took the census id put Jedi I dont see the big problam.

 

[AlexJ412]

I think that saying 'don't put jedi' ultimately just encourages people to put jedi, for a laugh the census people should include a section saying ' if you answered JEDI, how many midichlorians do you have?'

 

[lacktheknack]

It's not a big deal. Just say that 90% of Jedi respondents are "non-religious".

Why do they need the statistic anyways?

 

[Vault Citizen]

Ugh. Why is it always the Atheists who are so intollerant of other people's religions?

(As someone who agrees with no to putting Jedi) we're not and if I thought that Jedi was a genuine religion I'd leave it alone. But since it just looks like people are putting down Jedi with the mindset of "oh looking I'm referencing a movie as my religion aren't I so clever! tee hee hee" my response is "cut the crap you're not fooling anyone".

 

[GeekFury]

I don't get the point in the Census being 37 pages long and basicly requiring you to write every little detail of your life down in it, you know how long the first census was back in the 1800's? 5 question, Name, Date of Bith, Residence, Occupation, Size of Family, thats all we need now, not what blood type, bed time and colour of your underwear is.

 

[lacktheknack]

Christians and Catholics follow a old book, so why are 3 good films not as good advice for how to lead your life?

BECAUSE IT SPAWNED THIS!

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2008/08/15/clonewars.jpg

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

You could almost say they're trying to execute order 66 maybe? Get it? Geddit?


...Yeah I'll get my coat.

OT: Pssh. If people want to be awesome, let them. How dare you attempt to repress the Jedi theology! XD

 

[bdcjacko]

Jedi's have just as much of a right to claim religion as any other religion. Hell I'm christian and recognize we have a crazy back story, the Jedi's have a crazy back story. Pfft, whatever live and let live.

 

[Dana22]

Topic title implies genocide. As an atheist im deeply offended :S

 

[Techno Squidgy]

You could almost say they're trying to execute order 66 maybe? Get it? Geddit?


...Yeah I'll get my coat.

You just reminded me of the prequel trilogy. Out.

 

[Mechsoap]

Christians and Catholics follow a old book, so why are 3 good films not as good advice for how to lead your life?

BECAUSE IT SPAWNED THIS!

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2008/08/15/clonewars.jpg

MY EYES!!!

The bible spawned wars...