UK Defense Secretary Calls for Medal of Honor Ban

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xyrafhoan said:
Wow, not only is this guy having a knee jerk reaction, he's also got a mindset that would be right at home in the 50's. Earth to Fox: Not every soldier is a young man with a wife and kids. Nor are British and American casualties somehow more meaningful than any other death in this war.

Someone ban this guy from Parliament instead. He's just appealing to the same crowd that opposes the "Mosque at Ground Zero", except more British.
So i take it you havent lost someone in ground zero to muslim extremists right? You never had to suffer a loss due to the current enemy thats being fought today right? This man simply prostested based on his beliefs, and because he disagrees you want to ban him from paliment?? Grow up, the reason people oppose the mosque is beyond your understanding because if you even had a slight even a hair of knowing why these people oppose it you wouldnt be making a bold statement instead you say how dare they violate thier freedom of religion, you have not the slightest idea why these people oppose the mosques construcion, your words are proof of your ignorance toward those who lost loved ones to muslim extremists, thats why those same people oppose it. Its easy to judge against things that didnt effect you in any way what so ever. Back to the topic in my opinion its just a game but i can understand why he is protesting the game. I am mature enough to agree to disagree. Grow up!!!!
 

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Well duh! Video games cause children to be violent and shoot up their schools!... or so goes the mindset of any typical alarmist politician.

Clearly this is EA recruiting teen Taliban. Also, rock and roll used to cause people to worship Satan, and bullets were accurate because they were taken from rifles and carried to their targets by demons. Let's also not forget that anyone that cured a person holistically was a witch unless they drowned, in which case they were not witches, and that men that watch pornographic material will all eventually become rapists and murderers.
*sarcasm ends*

Not to knock the man personally, but governing bodies are not run by geniuses, just men and women that won really expensive popularity contests.
 

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Protocol95 said:
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When will this retardation be eradicated from the human species?
When people start playing Russian Roulette with semi-automatics.
http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2000-04.html Here ya go!

Ot: It's been said but we've already played as more controversial factions in other games.
*Dispenses a cookie for getting the reference.*
 

DominicxD

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Stop and think for a minute guys.

Imagine, no brown and bloom mediocore FPS selling amazingly for no reason.

Imagine.
 

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"At the hands of the Taliban, children have lost fathers and wives have lost husbands," he said. "I would urge retailers to show their support for our armed forces and ban this tasteless product."

Well if you think about it, a lot of arab children have lost fathers and wives have lost husbands at the hands of american and british soldiers........ folowing this logic all arab countries should demand that every shooter made in the last 4 years is banned
 

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Wow, Liam FOX.

At least he's living up down to his namesake.

Particularly, I think The Taliban are second on to the Nazi SS in terms of such a villainous enemy we have faced yet there have been games where you play Nazi soldiers killing allied soldiers (in multiplayer) since 1999! That's 11 years of "fuck it, they're all old now"

Hell, Counter-Strike where you play SAS, SEALS, GSG-9 and other western special forces facing terrorists came out that long ago as well!
 

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Ahh well, I'm rambling (as I tend to do), and this is getting well off subject. In the end I think people in the US/UK and allied nations should indeed boycott this game and that it's out of line (though the goverment should not itself ban it). They should not give the producers money for making it, even to "find out" since what they put into the game stands on it's own. A lot of people of course disagree wih me and my reasoning, that's fine. We'll see what happens, but to be honest I have so little faith in video game boycotts and game consumers having any kind of meaningful voice, that I doubt the request of the UK Defense Secretary will have any influance at all.
By that reasoning, Iraq and Afghanistan have every right to call the Western Powers and Europe "Devils", as they lose tens/hundreds/thousands of women, children and husbands each and every day in their own villages/homes/cities to said forces, having doing nothing to justify such against them except be the same skin tone as the Taliban forces the West really has their beefs with.

It'd be different if there was a campaign for the Taliban forces in the game, but it is simply part of multiplayer. I mean, it really doesn't take that much to realize any middle-eastern force in a game named "OpFor" is exactly whom you think it is, just covering the real name.

But.. each to their own, as you said. I just disagree with your premises.
 

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I bet Mister Fox played the MOH beta and didnt like it so he's raging, but instead of 4chan or youtube he go to, its....the goverment..
He is, in fact, trollin'

Genius.


I found a picture of Mr Fox.
 

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Someone may have said this already, but I don't remember anyone calling for earlier Medal of Honour games, or their competition, to be banned for allowing you to play as the Nazis in multiplayer.

I suppose their is an element of reason, from his point of view, but does he really think people are going to come to sympathise with the Taliban because of a Western-designed videogame?
 

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The Defense Secretary is absolutely right. Just watching the video previews of MoH multiplayer, where generic, low-quality models wearing one style of uniform were shooting low-quality models with another uniform style, has imbued me with Jihadist values.
In fact, because of it I am decapitating westerners in front of a camera this very instant.

Damn you, video games, the irresistible tools of corruption and evil!

Of course, I could claim the low quality of multiplayer shooters in general is a good enough reason to commit atrocities, but that's a completely different discussion :p
 

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Don't you play as the Taliban, or something similar in multiplayer matches in COD4 and MW2?

Why weren't those games called to be banned? Well 2 was, but that was because of the airport thing.
yeah, the OpFor and the Militia. the OpFor pretty much are the taliban except one difference, THEY'RE NOT THE TALIBAN. it's the fact that you can play as a terrorist that's part of a real orginization that We and our chums in england are fighting agaisnt right now (well, that's not the case anymore, now is it? WE PULL OUT NOW!!!)

as for the militia, that's in brazil, they're the nieghborhood crime watch, literally, and you (TF141) are not welcome, so they shoot your whitey face off.

so moral of the story, video games can get offensive when you pretend to be the taliban. at least it's not as bad as the end of Rambo 3 where it says "this film is dedicated to the gallant people of afghanistan" EEEEEEEEEEEEEE, sure that nice to say back when we were secretly supplying them with weapons so they could fight off the invading soivet union, but today that's a bit UNSAFE TO SAY IN AN AIRPORT!!!
 

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"At the hands of the Taliban, children have lost fathers and wives have lost husbands,"

Mainly because they were so very stupid enough to enlist and simply have their lives thrown away in that fashion, simply put its both the fault of the government for having idiots running it and the idiots who enlist to fight for them.
 

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.....So playing as Nazi's against the British isn't any worse? Even if it's a modern setting, it's STILL A GAME! And if the parents don't want their children playing as the Taliban, then they just shouldn't BUY THE GAME...
Sorry for the caps but it's points like this where I detest people like Liam Fox.
 

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As I understand it, it would be illegal for the UK government to try to ban Medal of Honor itself...
You imply in the UK we actually have the right to Freedom of Speech in any way protected under law.

LOL!

The English Parliament has ABSOLUTE POWER! We have no written constitution, they can enact ANY law that gets enough votes, also repeal any law.

Certainly they can ban any entertainment product they like.

More simply the BBFC merely has to REFUSE TO GIVE IT A RATING and it becomes illegal to sell the game in the UK. Yes, it's illegal to sell any game, video or show any film reel that has not been approved and rated by government censorship board. And they only approve THEIR censored cut.

This happened with Austin Powers, all reference to the comical Irish terrorist were removed to get any rating at all.
Actually the right to free expression is covered by the Human Rights Act of 1998, and despite your assertion, the BBFC is not a government agency.
*FACEPALM*

If a law contradicts the Human Rights Act... then the most recent law over-rules the last. It is no bill of rights, it's a weak law that is violated every week anyway.

It is also utterly irrelevant that the BBFC is not part of the government. ONLY PUBLICATIONS WITH THEIR APPROVAL CAN BE SOLD!

This just means free expression is under attack from all sides:
-Parliament who can ban literally ANYTHING they like, films and games being easy ones, far easier to simply mandate that they not be sold. Well all know what it's like when you get a load of old people to vote on what the tabloids rail against... it's like 10 Wolves and a Lamb voting on what to eat for dinner!

-The British film council, a self appointed clique saying what the public should or should not have ready access to... by refusing classification. It's fully within their powers to make some political stance and simply refuse to give a rating, legally nothing can stop them.

That is the utter insidiousness of the law, they can say "this isn't for ANYONE!". Where is the freedom of speech in that? Whether a powerful government or NGO, freedom of speech is a privilege to be gained only with permission... not a right.
 

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Woodsey said:
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Well done, unnecessary sarcasm solves everything.
But yes, I think I see now what was actually meant. Try to cool that hostility hm?
Be fair, I did just have 3 people tell me that America is not in the UK.
Hmm, this is true...fair enough, sorry man.
 

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If I was in the market for a shooter, I'd get this one just as a middle finger to Liam Fox. As to bad taste, why? It's not my war.
 

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It's one thing to complain if they release a game where you enforce Islamic law by stoning women to death or forcing them to have sex with their husbands, sure. Or to complain if they release a game where you get points for blowing up ancient Buddhist statues or cultivating opium poppies to sell in the drug trade. But to complain about the fact that someone releases a game where they're portrayed as the other side in a conflict that basically constituted a foreign invasion of their country, a fact people conveniently like to forget, is nothing more than political point scoring by attempting to appeal to the knee-jerk demographic who've never played a game in their life.