The more people they convince that inconsequential crap like the content of a video game is worth protesting, the fewer people will turn their energy to protesting things that really matter. And that suits them fine.dangdiggityderek said:
UK Defense Secretary Calls for Medal of Honor Ban
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It's just the other faction you play as in the multiplayer to make it fit with the universe of the game their making. Would you rather the other faction be American and the British have to shoot at them? No, because that would make no sense.Xiorell said:
If this man said the word "un-british" without wearing a monocle, handlebar moustache and mutton chops, I am severely disappointed.
I for one hope they don't allow this on British game store shelves.
The phrase too soon comes to mind.
I know it is a game and that if you don't like it don't play it. But my 'pit of the stomach' reaction when hearing about this was not a good one.
The Taliban are cowards who kill OUR soldiers. I think the problem is that most of you seem to be too far removed from the reality of what is actually happening in the world.
Unless this is a game that portrays the Taliban being just destroyed I will be happy. If there is any divergence into portraying them as 'freedom' fighters or anything but hopped up murderers I will be very dissapointed.
I have good friends who have served over there and they have lost friends there. It is amazing to me that this game was even made when Fuluja was panned.
I for one well be using my right not to buy this game.
The phrase too soon comes to mind.
I know it is a game and that if you don't like it don't play it. But my 'pit of the stomach' reaction when hearing about this was not a good one.
The Taliban are cowards who kill OUR soldiers. I think the problem is that most of you seem to be too far removed from the reality of what is actually happening in the world.
Unless this is a game that portrays the Taliban being just destroyed I will be happy. If there is any divergence into portraying them as 'freedom' fighters or anything but hopped up murderers I will be very dissapointed.
I have good friends who have served over there and they have lost friends there. It is amazing to me that this game was even made when Fuluja was panned.
I for one well be using my right not to buy this game.
And how many people who actually live there have lost fathers, brothers, mothers, grandmothers, grandfathers, sons, daughters, nieces, nephews, cousins, sisters, and everythin beyond and in between due to actions of the Western world whether it be directly shootin them or indirectly supportin the person who shoots them? Kinda puts it in perspective dont it.Bretty said:
Look, its all fine and dandy to think that the idea of playin as an actual terrorist group is distasteful, but to play that kind of card and say the reason its distasteful is because that group kills our people is horribly outdated and just makes you out to be insensitive to the losses of others in the world. Why is the single loss of a single American/British/whatever country soldier greater than the hundreds that die every day in our occupied territories or even greater than the people we accidentally blow up because of faulty intelligence or just plain idiocy.
I thought the UK Defense Secretary was supposed to help with REAL defense problems, not "Someone stole our flag!"
Besides, MW2 lets you kill the British all the time. Why aren't they raving about that?
Besides, MW2 lets you kill the British all the time. Why aren't they raving about that?
I second this.this isnt my name said:
It's probably not the smartest thing EA has done, buuuuut, to ban it seems a little far. Why not just have them mod the game the same way L4D2 had to be done for Australia? Take out "Taliban" and put in "OpFor" or "Rebels" or whatever.
Peace~
How is this any different then playing as the Nazis in Call of Cuty. America (and I guess Britian) aren't used to being the victims in games. How long has Germany, the Middle East, Japan, and the rest of the world had to put up with being the ones being killed as an objective and who's murders are rewarded in the game with points or just advancing the story.
To put it simply, get over it.
To tell you the truth, when I first heard about this I hoped it would be part of an alternate campaign. Not so much, because I want to plant road side bombs, but because its new and different.
To put it simply, get over it.
To tell you the truth, when I first heard about this I hoped it would be part of an alternate campaign. Not so much, because I want to plant road side bombs, but because its new and different.
I love how the reason is that the Taliban have killed the fathers of children and the husbands of wives... Yeah because none of the Taliban might have kids or anything. Of course not, they're EVIL! Everyone knows people our countries are against have absolutely no redeemable features, all our troops are exemplary and saintly, and everything is black and white. /sarcasm
Guys, I think you're all a little oversensitive to this whole "video games are bad" theme going on in the media and perhaps become a bit too extremist.
Do you really think a game where you play as Taliban...mass murderers, to be polite...killing American soldiers sounds like a fun idea? Doesn't it seem like they're milking the pain and suffering going on in the mid-east to make their game "edgy" and "xhardcorex"? (Totally intentional x's) I don't think a video game about an ongoing war is a good idea either. I would like for retailers to not sell it.
What's wrong with this guy expressing his right to say "I don't like this"?
Do you really think a game where you play as Taliban...mass murderers, to be polite...killing American soldiers sounds like a fun idea? Doesn't it seem like they're milking the pain and suffering going on in the mid-east to make their game "edgy" and "xhardcorex"? (Totally intentional x's) I don't think a video game about an ongoing war is a good idea either. I would like for retailers to not sell it.
What's wrong with this guy expressing his right to say "I don't like this"?
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but I could have sworn you could been seen as "insurgents" which looked a lot like Taliban or something when you would play multiplayer in a free game made for/by the US military as a recruitment tool called America's Army, IIRC.Skorpyo said:
I am sure there are more examples, heck, I think there are few games out there that let you take on the role of some of the world's most vilified militants before even looking into mods. I wonder if other countries get uppity about playing a US military person most of the time in games...
Considering that the Taliban and Arab fighters are the lead cause of all civilian deaths over there.shintakie10 said:
I don't sweat the loss of the enemy, THE ENEMY. They have been indoctrinated against us. Sure I think it is a sad thing that the poor and religion blinded masses over there can be easily lead into making a very bad decision; a decision that invariably leads to meet our lads.
I don't want our guys there. I don't think, and it is hard to say considering the losses we have taken, we should be there helping these people. They would rather put up with shit than fight for better (much different to the Iraqis who have and want a nation) because their petty tribal issues are always first.
Am I insensitive to the enemies losses? Yes, because they chose to fight us. Am I saddened by the collateral, YES! The fact that you jumped to saying I was 'OK' that the civilians are dying is just a poor show on your part. Because I am not, we are there for the people if anything good and every civilian loss shows badly to us. But do you think the Arabs fighting with the Taliban care? THIS is why I hate these guys. This is why my friends suck up the fact that they have to go back to that shit hole.
If you think that a greater proportion of civilians are dying because of our actions then you are just showing that you don't understand a thing about what is happening in that country. If we weren't there the only difference would be that we wouldn't be hearing about the shit that happens there.
i guarantee he has never played the game, and probably has never even seen gameplay for it.
everyone that is taking offense to the Taliban being playable has overlooked the fact that you only play the Taliban while in multiplayer. youre not bombing buildings, or simulating any horrific acts of terrorism... youre playing as a nameless, emotionless vessel and you are shooting at other nameless, emotionless vessels.
someone has to play the bad guy
everyone that is taking offense to the Taliban being playable has overlooked the fact that you only play the Taliban while in multiplayer. youre not bombing buildings, or simulating any horrific acts of terrorism... youre playing as a nameless, emotionless vessel and you are shooting at other nameless, emotionless vessels.
someone has to play the bad guy
I am all for democracy, freedom of speech and artistic expression. I guess this falls under the latter. So like you, I accept it, but I find it distasteful aswell.this isnt my name said:
Distasteful because it's an ongoing conflict. One minute you could be gunning down Talibans left and right for entertainment, and the next minute you are watching the news learning that four of your country-men have died in a roadbomb explosion.
CoD:MW and others can get away with it because the terrorists are not given real names. This creates just enough distance to make it genarally more acceptable. That might sound hypocritical, but I realy think there is a line here somewhere.
Popular media has been used to inform or just downright spread propaganda for entertainment before, so why not a videogame?
Because war-based FPS games these days have sacrificed the singleplayer experience, where you can actually tell a decent story, for the multiplayer experience. And in this case, to make matters worse, you can play as an existing active enemy force.
Maybe I am to quick to judge, but I haven't seen anything on paper yet to suggest that this revival attempt of the MOH franchise is going to change this.
But IW wisely didn't directly call them the Taliban, just assumed that the player could connect the dots on that one.Irridium said: