You not reading the article?cjbos81 said:"UK Retailer Allegedly Discriminates Against Jedi".
I don't even know where to begin.
Wow, to think you people took on the Nazis...and won.
What happened to you U.K.?
What went wrong?
Scientology was born by a science fiction writer...KeyMaster45 said:No offense to anyone, but the jedi church makes my brain hurt because its a based on a fictional idea thought up by george lucas.
When thinking about it I oft times replace Han's response in this quote with my own.
Luke:You don't believe in the force do you?
Han:No...No I don't, now put that light saber away before you cut your own arm off or kill grandpa
[small]Disclaimer: I'm not racist, I hate every person equally regardless of race or religion[/small]
Oh god, they shouldn't get boycotted for the response alone. That was just fantastic to read in response. Bravo Tesco, Bravo.CantFaketheFunk said:"Jedi are very welcome to shop in our stores although we would ask them to remove their hoods. Obi-Wan Kenobi, Yoda and Luke Skywalker all went hoodless without going to the Dark Side. If Jedi walk around our stores with their hoods on, they'll miss lots of special offers."
Ah but the point was trying to make was that tescos would never dare try that on someone in a burka making it seem some what hypocritical. I wasnt trying to make direct attack on your statement merely generate convo!Doc Theta Sigma said:I never said it wasn't. Either way regardless of religion its a security risk. Did I say at any point in my post that it'd be different if he was Muslim?murphy7801 said:What and a burka isntDoc Theta Sigma said:I can understand where Tesco are coming from. It's the same in most UK stores. I guess the point is if you stole something wearing a hood it'd be hard to identify you using CCTV. The same for not wearing sunglasses in some stores.
I think, and I know a lot of people have told you what they think, but I'll toss my two cents in, is that by Tesco standards, the hood is being used specifically to hide someone's face from the cameras (so that when they shoplift, they can't be picked out of a lineup). In fact, if you look at the movies, the Jedi almost only wear their hoods when they're concealing their identities. So even by the "religion's" standards, it's indicating a sense of duplicity of action.elvor0 said:See this is why the PC in my country annoys me, I mean yeah the whole hood thing is kind of silly in itself, but the fact that Muslims and the like are allowed but he isnt is just silly, because Tesco know that if they did ask a Muslim to remove their veil they would be sued or put under immediate fire from the press, for something so simple as security measures in the event one of them did decide to steal something, surely allowing people to wonder around in veils where you cant see their face in a SHOP is a terrible security hole? Balaclavas or hockey masks would be counted as a security risk I'm sure, but the second Muslims are involved, ooh it's racism or discrimination.
Now, know I am not moaning at muslims here, in fact, quite the opposite, people in the UK are so PC about everything that companies are frightened to do anything for a logical reason due to non muslim (blacks, gays or whatever) suddenly shouting "DISCRIMINATION!", obviously i'm sure there are some people in said groups that have sued, but for the most part it's the non groups shouting over nothing, it's bloody stupid.
However, I do ask what exactly gives them the right to do that? If you're not muslim you'd be arrested or made to leave by security for masking your face in public or in a shop/bank/whatever, but as soon as you're Muslim it's okay to create a massive hole in security procedures?Sparrow said:What a complete moron.
He thinks he should get the same rights as Muslims, when his relgion is based around a movie franchise. Muslims had to do alot of political fighting to get themselves recoginised in the UK, now this dick just went and completely undermined it.
Wow. That is a very nice rebuttal. This UK retailer gets my gold star of approval.CantFaketheFunk said:Though Jones said he would consider asking the religion's followers to boycott the store if it happened again, a Tesco spokesperson countered: "Jedi are very welcome to shop in our stores although we would ask them to remove their hoods. Obi-Wan Kenobi, Yoda and Luke Skywalker all went hoodless without going to the Dark Side. If Jedi walk around our stores with their hoods on, they'll miss lots of special offers."
Well, it's more about following the rules of behaviour rather than believing in the fiction part of it. Protect the weak, help your fellow man, don't abuse your power, etc. It's like every other religion claims to be, except without an actual god.KeyMaster45 said:No offense to anyone, but the jedi church makes my brain hurt because its a based on a fictional idea thought up by george lucas.
Don't you get it? This is less about getting rights FOR jedis and more about making people THINK about the special treatment that Scientology is getting as well as other more well established religions.olikunmissile said:You not reading the article?cjbos81 said:"UK Retailer Allegedly Discriminates Against Jedi".
I don't even know where to begin.
Wow, to think you people took on the Nazis...and won.
What happened to you U.K.?
What went wrong?
Scientology was born by a science fiction writer...KeyMaster45 said:No offense to anyone, but the jedi church makes my brain hurt because its a based on a fictional idea thought up by george lucas.
When thinking about it I oft times replace Han's response in this quote with my own.
Luke:You don't believe in the force do you?
Han:No...No I don't, now put that light saber away before you cut your own arm off or kill grandpa
[small]Disclaimer: I'm not racist, I hate every person equally regardless of race or religion[/small]
Easy, it's the dude with the green glowing toy and the robe that children are warned against by their parents.Doc Theta Sigma said:I can understand where Tesco are coming from. It's the same in most UK stores. I guess the point is if you stole something wearing a hood it'd be hard to identify you using CCTV. The same for not wearing sunglasses in some stores.
...Best...response...ever?CantFaketheFunk said:Though Jones said he would consider asking the religion's followers to boycott the store if it happened again, a Tesco spokesperson countered: "Jedi are very welcome to shop in our stores although we would ask them to remove their hoods. Obi-Wan Kenobi, Yoda and Luke Skywalker all went hoodless without going to the Dark Side. If Jedi walk around our stores with their hoods on, they'll miss lots of special offers."
Jediism is a religion intended to demonstrate the hypocrisies present in today's culture and to erode the preferential treatment of religion vs any other form of organization. AFAIK the initial founding was because the UK wanted to pass a law that bans criticising a religion so tons of people announced they're jedis and if anyone says anything against jedis they'd get arrested under that law.Machines Are Us said:Ignoring the obvious criticisms of Jedi being a 'religion' I don't recall any of the Star Wars characters insisting upon having their hoods up in every crowded areas.
Am I to assume this is why he insisted on wearing the hood? To show that Religions (like Islam) shouldn't get away with it? If so I would have thought he'd have mentioned that.KDR_11k said:Jediism is a religion intended to demonstrate the hypocrisies present in today's culture and to erode the preferential treatment of religion vs any other form of organization. AFAIK the initial founding was because the UK wanted to pass a law that bans criticising a religion so tons of people announced they're jedis and if anyone says anything against jedis they'd get arrested under that law.Machines Are Us said:Ignoring the obvious criticisms of Jedi being a 'religion' I don't recall any of the Star Wars characters insisting upon having their hoods up in every crowded areas.
Ressurecting a 2-year old topic is usually frowned upon, just fyiflaviok79 said:It was a really good answer by Tesco, but inaccurate. Luke did fall to the darkside, but that is only in the books, no movies yet about that.