Unbelievable jealous rage - is it wrong?

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ZombieGenesis

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He's in a band, knows three languages, Works three jobs, knows everyone who matters in San Antonio, he uses girls for sex and satisfaction, he's conceited, he's rich, gorgeous, and travels all over the world all the time.

And he's also expressed an interest in my long term girlfriend, and he's going to be joining her in babysitting her new neice while she's away taking care of the new mother.
Now I'd just like to set this straight- I trust my girlfriend with my life, I really do. Him on the other hand, I'm pretty absolutely positively certain is going to at least try and do something, and that's bad enough for me.

I'm now more recently suffering bouts of jealous anger powerful enough to cause a knot in my chest and come very close to breaking my hand. I can't help but feel I might have something of a problem, as I never thought of myself as being the jealous type...

Am I wrong to be incredibly angry? At whom I don't know just... angry.
So fucking angry.
 

Julianking93

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ZombieGenesis said:
he uses girls for sex and satisfaction
Should you be angry? Nope, because that right there shows that no matter what he may seem like, one who just plays and uses people is a hollow shell of a person.

It's okay to be jealous though. It's a normal human emotion, but you can't let it bring you down. This person does indeed sound like an ass from that sentence alone, so there's no reason to be jealous of someone who only uses people for their own gain.

I suggest you read this article [http://www.life-with-confidence.com/jealousy.html] or really anything you can on the subject :3

If, perhaps you wish to talk further, you can PM me if you like
 

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No, you're not wrong to be jealous and angry so long as you don't take it out on your girlfriend. I never thought of myself as a jealous person either until my most recent relationship (there are far too many guys after her goddammit! >.<). You have a right to be concerned, but don't blow the situation out proportion.
 

BlueberryMUNCH

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See, I really think it's kay. Heck, that's even made me angry:/.

Hope he keeps himself to himself.
If not...
...He'll have to answer to me:mad:.
 

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I don't think so. Same things happened to me cept a couple facts about the guy. Worse part is, it worked against me last time. But keep the trust in her and don't let the rage use you. Use it instead. No worries tho. And It's possibly not jealousy by the way, it might be protective instincts. Anythings possible.
 

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I'm assuming your girlfriend isn't flirting with him, since you stated you trust her? Have you talked to her about your concerns? If so, how did she respond? How long has she known him? Does she view him as a potential danger? If so, would it be possible for her to have some other people over?

I think some jealousy is warranted here, especially if he's as slimy as you make him out to be. I think a frank, honest discussion with your girlfriend is recommended here, just so she's aware of the situation. Communication is key in any relationship.
 

Count Igor

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Weell, I'm feeling the same thing pretty much ever day.
It's natural.
Just don't hit him. It's not worth it in the long run.
 

ZombieGenesis

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Well thanks guys, I'm glad to see there are so many well meaning people on the Escapist. No wonder I tend to spend so much time here really.

I do intend to talk with her, but I don't want to put it across to heavily. If she really doesn't seem to see a problem in it, as she expresses, then I feel it only fair to be gentle in the matter. I do trust her and as far as I know she's never made any sort of advances.
I guess I still don't know how to feel in regards to him. I wasn't exaggerating in my description, in fact there is ONE additional fact that is both terribly hatable and exceptionally illegal, but I won't say it.

Whatever happens though, I'll never take it out on her.
I love her too much, and I need her to know it.
 

Hero in a half shell

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You should talk about this with your girlfriend. If you think you have a major personality problem discuss it with her, her opinion will be infinitely more valuable than our advice. Tell her how you feel about her babysitting with him, and that you're threatened by him. Let her know that you are uncomfortable having her in this situation, otherwise all you will get out of this is suspicion and hurt, even if nothing happens.

If you want your relationship with your girlfriend to grow, then you need to communicate. If you do then these circumstances may help you grow closer, as she can remain faithful to you despite his advances.

EDIT: oops kinda ninja'd by the threadmaker, that'll teach me for spending too long crafting a reply.
 

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ZombieGenesis said:
I wasn't exaggerating in my description, in fact there is ONE additional fact that is both terribly hatable and exceptionally illegal, but I won't say it.
Damn, now you have me thinking he's a drug dealer or some kind of serial rapist! >.<
 

ZombieGenesis

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Haha, believe me Hero, any advice is appreciated no matter when it arrives~
I agree with you though, communication is key. I suppose on top of having to handle the situation itself I'm quite concerned with my own reaction to it.
I'm a remarkably non-violent person, yet I've felt very much in the mindset to cause harm to someone. And I don't like that.

I'm sure expressing it properly though will help this greatly, and I appreciate all the good advice given, and the kind words. And the threats against him, those are appreciated too ;)
 

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ZombieGenesis said:
I wasn't exaggerating in my description, in fact there is ONE additional fact that is both terribly hatable and exceptionally illegal, but I won't say it.
I'm guessin' smackhead, beat a girl or rape charge.
 

Zaik

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You know that reaction you get when you're watching some clueless friend play a game you've beat and he's doing something retarded like walking directly into an obvious trap and you're just like "ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"?

That's what you're actually feeling.

Anyway, realistically you should probably look at it as a pass/fail test. Either she keeps control of herself and everything stays roses and sunshine, or she follows the stereotype and you can rid yourself of one skank.

It saves you lots of trouble down the road to go ahead and take this test now.
 

Julianking93

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Zeithri said:
Not everyone who sleeps around is a hollow shell of a person.
Some have been hurt so much that they now suffer from trust issues.
But they don't want to give up sex so they chose a path where they get to have sex and not care.

Of course, in this situation he is just another band-person who wants to sleep with as many as possible.

... I wish you had given me that link months back.
Though it already said stuff I already know I suppose <.<
There's a difference between sleeping around and using people.

And I only found that article maybe a week ago, so it's not like I'm keeping anything from you :3
 

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ZombieGenesis said:
He's in a band, knows three languages, Works three jobs, knows everyone who matters in San Antonio, he uses girls for sex and satisfaction, he's conceited, he's rich, gorgeous, and travels all over the world all the time.

And he's also expressed an interest in my long term girlfriend, and he's going to be joining her in babysitting her new neice while she's away taking care of the new mother.
Now I'd just like to set this straight- I trust my girlfriend with my life, I really do. Him on the other hand, I'm pretty absolutely positively certain is going to at least try and do something, and that's bad enough for me.

I'm now more recently suffering bouts of jealous anger powerful enough to cause a knot in my chest and come very close to breaking my hand. I can't help but feel I might have something of a problem, as I never thought of myself as being the jealous type...

Am I wrong to be incredibly angry? At whom I don't know just... angry.
So fucking angry.
I have found the answer is almost always "Talk to her dammit!" Tell her you've got a completely irrational worry about this guy, and just ask her to be careful. Just make sure you are communicating worry about him, and not about her, and I think it will work out.
 

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ZombieGenesis said:
and travels all over the world all the time.
either slips some drugs up his arse or place a gun or knife in his bag next time he is travelling. so he gets put on the no fly list and might get some jail time.
 

CarpathianMuffin

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I think anybody would be jealous in your situation, and pretty concerned. Still, try to come to terms with your jealousy, or voice your fears to your girlfriend if you're really that worried. Just make sure to either express it through healthy means, or try to find something to distract you.
Jealousy's one of the most irrational emotions out there, and it's hard not to let it grab a hold of you. But if you can manage to beat it down, you'll be much stronger for it.
 

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Its fine to be jealous, and its fine to angry at guys who make a move on your girlfriend. I've been on both sides of that coin, and yeah it's totally justified.

Yes, you should talk to your GF, and tell her what you think, and that you're unhappy about this guy. However, she may either no believe you, or be unwilling to confront him, and that means you may need to do the job yourself.

Even if you trust your partner to tell them where to go (as you do yours, and indeed i do mine) that doesn't mean he's not a dick and deserves to be put in his place. I am DEFINITELY not beyond taking a swing at (and on occasion beating the crap out of, or one notable time throwing through a garden fence) people who go too far, and won't stop.

I mean, my girlfriend is pretty damn hot, and has many interesting and attractive qualities, and yes I feel very lucky to have her. I don't go round harming anyone who lusts after her, because it'd take a lot of time, and for the most part they know that they haven't a hope in hell of it going anywhere and all they do is treat her nice and compliment her various artistic endeavors. That's fine by me.

However, when someone is making a point of getting alone time with her (regardless of how genuine their affections may be) buying her stuff and generally getting over-familiar, then its time he and I meet, have a discussion, and he learn that backing the fuck off is what is going to happen.

Don't listen to anyone who says you shouldn't be pissed off. You should ABSOLUTELY not feel bad for feeling how you do. You should also ignore anyone who thinks that somehow it'll all end up alright if you GF just brushes him off. Unless she can stamp on him so hard he'll never speak to her again, it will just not end there. Plenty of guys (and at one time I was one of them) do this kinda stuff specifically to make themselves feel big and awesome and the manliest guy out there, and as that seems to be this guys deal.

In that case, this isn't about your relationship with your GF, its about someone pissing in your pocket and telling you its raining. Its the principal of the thing that matters, and you absolutely should not tolerate someone trying to cop off with your partner, even if she wouldn't ever do it. It's absolutely the trying that matters. Its just not cool. It directly equates to someone trying to steal from you. It doesn't matter that the doors are all locked and the alarm is set, the fact they are trying to means you gotta do something.

Have a full and frank exchange of words with him. Tell him in no uncertain terms to back the fuck off. If you can take him, then do so in private, then if he's a dick... well... you might have to make an issue of it. If not, do so somewhere public, and make sure either your GF is with you, or you have a couple of friends who have your back. If the former, its a good bet he won't try anything in front of her, if the latter, then you should be alright.

I am definitively not a violent guy, and under the vast majority of circumstances, I'd do anything to avoid situations where its a possibility. Chances are it won't go that far anyway. However, if words (then followed by cruder words, then shouted crude words) don't work and your GF is either unaware of whats up or is unwilling to kick him to the curb, then don't be squeemish of doing the job yourself.

Fear of confrontation is why guys get away with this crap. You wouldn't let someone just walk out of your house with your xbox because you didn't want to tell them to stop. Obviously its not directly the same, but if he's anything like I used to be, she hasn't even noticed whats going on, and that means it up to you.

For some reason we've gotten to that point of (and indeed the majority of this thread is) gasps of horror at the thought of confronting someone. Jealousy is something we've been programed to say is wrong, and it is, but only when its unfounded.

Man up, and sort the situation out. It is just not enough to say to yourself he's a douche, so meh. He wants to take your girlfriend from you. Don't let him even try.

No matter how much you trust her, or how solid and loyal her character is, love is a really fickle thing and particularly when someone appears to be open and honest and interesting and just awesome, it only takes a few tiny cracks for things to start imploding. Maybe you have a row or she has a few too many drinks or she just felt she could open up to him... What I'm saying is that its WAY easier than you think to make someone fall in love with you (not in lasting forever after way, just a little infatuation) if you want to. And while a lot of people are immune or too good to fall for this, its only takes a brief loss of control or perspective. There are lots of ways relationships can end, and this is one that will mess you up if it happens.