Underage Sexual Assault Victim Faces Jail Time...For Tweeting the Names of Her Attackers (UPDATED)
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she should have the freedom of speech to talk about what happened to her. its not hearsay, she was there. if they feel she is lying, their remedy is to sue her for defamation - in which case she'll have the defense that what she says is true.
as to their agreement w/the gov't, i can see the gov't agreeing, in return for a plea, to keep the record sealed. but the gov't has no business telling her that she can't talk about something that happened to her. They can agree that they won't talk about it, via the defendants' records, or other means, but they have no place agreeing to what she will or will not say, that's for her to decide. (now if she agrees to it herself for some reason then later she violates that agreement that'd be a different story). But they have no place agreeing in her stead - what she will or will not talk about in the future (so long as it the truth), that's just ridiculous.
as to their agreement w/the gov't, i can see the gov't agreeing, in return for a plea, to keep the record sealed. but the gov't has no business telling her that she can't talk about something that happened to her. They can agree that they won't talk about it, via the defendants' records, or other means, but they have no place agreeing to what she will or will not say, that's for her to decide. (now if she agrees to it herself for some reason then later she violates that agreement that'd be a different story). But they have no place agreeing in her stead - what she will or will not talk about in the future (so long as it the truth), that's just ridiculous.
Not necessarily, as you can generally opt for a deal up until sentencing if both sides become willing to play ball.Rednog said:
A plea can be changed even in court, pending a judge's approval.
Which does not require you to be silent about the crime itself, which this girl was ordered to do. Also, I'm not sure what country you're from, but the US law known as the "Privacy Act" doesn't do this. Perhaps you mean a different law?Suki_ said:
Finally, I'm not sure why people are calling her names and such for this. She knows there are consequences, and has openly stated that she is fighting for her rights despite those consequences. "Oh hurr hurr she is stupid for breaking the law!"
Yeah, kinda like all those other "stupid" lawbreakers. Lousy Civil rights activists. Couldn't they just have obeyed the law and be treated like animals? GOD.
Sex offender registries vary by locale. I have no clue what KY's is, but there's a decent chance they don't have to register if they're being treated to privacy in the first place.ecoho said:
She really should have just obeyed the court order in my opinion.
All this being said, I really hope the two guys face harsh punishment and get put on a sex offender list. That kind of behaviour is extremely detestable.
No they weren't; they were infringed upon. That's what the point of going to court was, to punish the people who infringed upon your rights. You still have your rights. It's not like you get sexually assaulted once and now you can be publicly molested by anyone at any time with no legal recourse.
All this being said, I really hope the two guys face harsh punishment and get put on a sex offender list. That kind of behaviour is extremely detestable.
They made a plea deal, which I don't understand. They had pictures of their crime how did they get a plea deal? This was an open and shut case.
That noted she is in the wrong. Its a court order which she broke. Welcome to law, just because you weren't one to step in shit doesn't mean you can't stir it up.
That noted she is in the wrong. Its a court order which she broke. Welcome to law, just because you weren't one to step in shit doesn't mean you can't stir it up.
That does mean that they could have gotten away with raping her if they killed her.Renegade Shepard said:
This whole thing stinks. These boys should be punished but due process is there for a reason.
Considering she's a minor, her name was kept anonymous. She decided to have it otherwise.DVS BSTrD said:
OT: Yeah, she violated a court order. I'd be more inclined to care that she did if the justice system did a better job handling rape cases, but they suck at it. It's sad and pathetic that her public shaming of those involved will probably be more effective than the pittance of punishment the court will levy against them.
Are people assuming that sexual assault means rape?
What did the boys actually do, that should result in their lives being completely ruined?
I'm not condoning anything, but there is a big difference between taking pictures and gang rape - their crime obviously falls somewhere inbetween. People have an amazing memory for names when sexual assault is involved, maybe it made more sense, in a court of law, for their identity to be withheld.
Not enough facts, too many assumptions here I think.
What did the boys actually do, that should result in their lives being completely ruined?
I'm not condoning anything, but there is a big difference between taking pictures and gang rape - their crime obviously falls somewhere inbetween. People have an amazing memory for names when sexual assault is involved, maybe it made more sense, in a court of law, for their identity to be withheld.
Not enough facts, too many assumptions here I think.