Unused World War 2 Settings

[Kenko]

Did Burma ever get the respect it deserves? Whenever I ask that question I usually get a question in reply: "There was fighting in Burm- is that a country?"

Was about to write that down as a suggestion too. Burma needs alot more recognition tbh.

 

[cryogeist]

how about the other beaches in the Normandy landing
like Utah,Juno,Sword or Gold?

 

[Nashura]

Like said before, there are some hidden 'gems' in the WW2 setting that haven't been done yet: The Finnish-Russian war, the second Chino-Japanese war, French resistance, the failed landing at Dieppe. I'd love to see some more grit and mature game, not the usual FPS, but really in your face and not always victory. Playing as a German or Japanese soldier would also be a neat idea, someone who is human and does not agree with what is going on. Operation Barbarossa is still the biggest militairy operation in history, and yet as far as I know not a single game has used it.

I even already have an idea for this some kind of mission (but way more serious of course), like the AR-71 one in COD Blops. Instead you are a bomber of an B-17 at the raid of Dresden, while on the ground you are a German civilian who has been called (forced) upon for anti-air. He quickly gives up while he sees the horror that is happening. You know, a game that makes you think about war.

But what I'd rather want more then another WW2 game is a WW1. But to make a succesfull game in this setting (like said before, its not capable for the fast paced FPS), it would need to be the darkest and serious FPS to date. You could play as a miner in the battle of Messines, as a soldier who has to hold at Verdun, someone from a connaissance squad at night. But it would need to focus on the human aspect of war, and the horror that WW1 was (I think from a psychological, soldier POV this one was way worse then WW2)

 

[RicoADF]

As far as WWII settings go, I'd be intrigued by a game about the Siege of Tobruk. 240 days of desert warfare and siege, the first time the Blitzkrieg was actually brought to a complete stop. The Australian 9th Division was ordered to hold the town for eight weeks, they held it for five months until the German forces were driven off by Allied reinforcements.

To be fair, a large reason that blitzkrieg failed was because of the crippling lack of adequate support ironically caused from its great success in previous missions.

That and the Australian defense was ridiculously suicidal, they sat in the trenches even after some of them had been run over by passing tanks until they were ordered to fire on the tanks from behind. Although attacking tanks from behind was a common practice for anti-axis forces since the German tanks were 3 times more heavily armored in the front than other tanks, I doubt the German's expected soldiers to hide in dugouts and die from being crushed before they ever dared to show themselves.

Thats incorrect, the panzer III and IV we're equal and later on inferior to the allied tanks in armor, they were just used by crews that were better trained.
However your right about the Aussie troops being too damn stubborn to let the Germans win

 

[BrotherSurplice]

I'd really like to see a Burmese campaign. I'd love to play as the chindits, doing guerilla warfare with the Japanese. Failing that, a North Africa campaign where you fight in the Second Battle of El Alamein, or maybe a campaign in the earliest days of the war in France or Poland.

 

[ediblemitten]

Apparently the last calvery charge ever was by the Polish, towards a MG42 thats mowed them all down, in 1939. And alot or nasty shit happened in China as well. Hmm, what about the bombing of Dunkirk?

I believe the charge you are reffering to is the one at the battle of Krojanty, where Polish cavalry squadrons charged a german position. This charge was in fact successful, as it was meant to delay the German advance, which it did. And for the most part the Polish cavalry was quite effective against german infantry forces during the invasion of Poland. They almost never actually charged headlong into enemy emplacements. Also, your statement regarding the last cavalry charge being in 1939 is incorrect. There was a successful Italian cavalry charge in 1942, and another in Yugoslavia also committed by italians (in 1942 as well). As well, the Poles apparently launched a successful charge in 1945 against the Germans.

 

[Amgeo]

There's the Greatest Raid. A small group of British commandos (yes, *British*) dolled up a dingy to stealth their way into a French port where the Germans were keeping their massive ocean-controlling ship and blow it to smithereens.

 

[Nashura]

And I know another one: the battle of Berlin played from the POV of a german child who has to fire Panzerfausts.

 

[jyork89]

More games from the German perspective. It seems to be some kind of Taboo but where we have games like MW2 where you play as a terrorist, a modern day evil, it seems stupid not to have some games from the perspective of what is ultimately just another soldier fighting for his country.

I am aware German squad tactics of infantry supporting the machine gunner hardly makes for captivating game play, but then again most WW2 are hardly accurate to real squad based tactics, so it's pretty much a non-issue. Maybe a tank simulator like Silent Hunter but with tanks. Who hasn't at some time wished they were in the tank raining down hell on you in *insert generic WW2 shooter here*. Panzers were pretty awesome.

Naturally there is a line, which is effectively anything further back from a front line soldier. For instance a game called "Hunt the Jew" or "Wheres Anne Frank?" would be pretty distasteful and insulting. But implying that every German was a Jew hating Nazi, is like implying that every American is a sister loving redneck.

 

[Talydia]

We need a Rosie the riveter game. Could me a motion controller game, Move, Kinect, etc.

Damn you! I came across this thread and started typing up that same concept thinking, surely no one had mentioned this yet.

 

[redder]

few things I would love to see

The invasion of ethiopia by italy (1935) whilst not technically WW2 nice intro with italians using modern weapons like mustard gas and tanks against tribesmen with muskets, bows and spears , guess who won? basically showed that the precurser to the UN,called the League of Nations was useless when they sat on their hands and watched. ended with Ethiopia's Emperor Haile Selassie saying to the LoN "It is us today. It will be you tomorrow." I think playing as the losing Ethiopian army would be an awsome intro to any WW2 game as it show just how powerful these armies had become.

SAS the originals
little histroy for those who dont know SAS was one mans idea which in an attempt to get looked at by the top brass he broke into a military base with a broken leg (full cast) running around trying to hand his idea in. basically had to fight beurocratic shit all the way as British army was still very much a old boys club. initially based as an airborne unit first mission horrible weather told if you dont jump SAS is over they all jumped lost 2/3s of the men more than a few died dragged along the dessert by their chutes.
essentially invented wat we call special forces behind enemy lines stuff basically spent the rest of the war fuking shit up so much so Hilter ordered them to be executed if they were captured. during this time though they did some crazy stuff inventing their own explosives which the experts said couldnt be done, liberated belsen, destroyed over 8% of German aircarft in North africa not to mention one of the main guys famously ripped out the console of one with his bare hands.

They where the some of the craziest guys in the war.


Basically should show more than a few of the horrors of the war not neccesarilly the bits where you the player would win eg: japan the fire bombing of tokyo wooden city + incindiary bombs = firestorm and around 100,000 dead overnight.

Sorry for the length hope you enjoyed the history lesson

 

[Exocet]

And I know another one: the battle of Berlin played from the POV of a german child who has to fire Panzerfausts.

I can actually totally see something like that happenning,with the child panicking and being hard as hell to aim,with the weapon shaking and vision getting blurry with sweat/tears.
Only in my mind,it ends with a russian tank bursting from a wall and crushing the child in rubble.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Also, your statement regarding the last cavalry charge being in 1939 is incorrect. There was a successful Italian cavalry charge in 1942, and another in Yugoslavia also committed by italians (in 1942 as well). As well, the Poles apparently launched a successful charge in 1945 against the Germans.

Don't forget that the Cossacks constantly harassed German infantry from horseback.

how about the other beaches in the Normandy landing
like Utah,Juno,Sword or Gold?

Juno would be a very interesting fight. The bluffs were nearly twice as high as Omaha, and yet the Canadians were the only group to achieve all objectives in one day.

 

[Professor Lupin Madblood]

The firebombing of Dresden. The entire city was lit on fire and the flames required so much oxygen, children were snatched from their mothers' arms and swept into burning buildings.

As well, Ortona. It was really, terrible from a human POV, but it would be good for a game.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

The firebombing of Dresden. The entire city was lit on fire and the flames required so much oxygen, children were snatched from their mothers' arms and swept into burning buildings.

As well, Ortona. It was really, terrible from a human POV, but it would be good for a game.

Lovely Dresden, the most ineffective and controversial mission ever carried out by Bomber Command. Entire residential districts disintegrated, and less than 1% of Germany's manufacturing capabilities damaged.

Can't see how you could make a game out of it though. Maybe a mission for a bomber simulator.

 

[Pedro The Hutt]

How about the Winter War [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War]? Where Finland managed to score a KPD of 5 vs. Russia, even though Russia brought three times as many guys as Finland had to over. This probably explains why Scandinavians are so good at FPS games anyhow.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

How about the Winter War [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War]? Where Finland managed to score a KPD of 5 vs. Russia, even though Russia brought three times as many guys as Finland had to over. This probably explains why Scandinavians are so good at FPS games anyhow.

Plus you get Machine Guns on skis!

 

[Locke_Cole]

I seriously lold when you said that they market WW2 games by having the major campaigns be American campaigns and not Canadian. How much WW2 history do you know exactly? The Canadian forces were few, and not influential in the victory. So when they had a few levels in CoD 3, I was surprised.

The Canadians almost singlehandedly held back a full quarter of the German Army with only four heavy divisions. They were the only group to achieve all their goals on D-Day fighting on the heaviest defended non American beach. They liberated the vast majority of Holland. Their military buildup built a massive shipping fleet required to ferry supplies across the Atlantic and to defend the convoys against Wolf Pack attacks.

Canada was used to train fighter and bomber pilots, since it and the US were some of the only safe flying zones. Canadians fought everywhere from the Battle of Britain, to Normandy, and into Italy, where they earned the name "The D-Day Dodgers", because they were too busy tearing through Italy's troops to fight at the beaches. Never mind that they linked up with them by punching a hole through the southern defensive line.

So before you go questioning my knowledge of my own country's contributions, maybe you should learn some history.

Let's not forget the Battle for Caen which has seen use in a number of games. The battle was a primarily Canadian effort. Also since getting off the beach at Normandy the Canadians encountered and fought as many as 6 different SS divisions while the Americans putzed around on or near the beach for almost a month. As I recall I don't believe the Americans fought their first SS division until they were very deep into France and yet most American movies/games has the Americans fighting SS in every battle.

 

[Riobux]

I'd be interested in a game which made you the German foot-solider. Straight away, you have the tenseness of the beliefs and the knowledge that your character will most likely be dead by the end. It could also give a human face to a group that did generally evil acts, and more specifically, each of the foot soldiers that were dragged into it and are forever portrayed as the human reincarnation of demons.

 

[Agayek]

Probably the biggest reason that people are sick of WW2 games is that they all use the same fucking settings. Omaha Beach, Stalingrad, Market Garden, Pacific, and then always the same nations, USA, Russia, UK.

Despite this, there are a ton of battles and campaigns that are almost never touched, despite their importance. How great would it be to see a Canadian campaign? We got a mini one in COD3, but apart from that and a couple of missions in Company of Heroes, the Canadians almost never appear.

Then there is the Second Sino-Japanese War, which could be an entire game by itself. Of course, considering the brutality and the long standing animosity brought about by it, it might be for the best if it isn't adapted.

Now, obviously these new ideas won't happen, since most World War 2 games are directed at Americans, and what American wants to play a game about Canadians? (note, I know this isn't true of everyone, but from a marketing standpoint it is)

So, what sort of World War 2 game that doesn't focus on the conventional aspects would you like to see?

Honestly, I'd like to see the Winter War [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War] done in a game. I can't remember ever seeing it before, and it would make for some truly awesome sniper-style levels. Combine that with the fact that the Winter War created the best soldier to have ever lived, Simo Hayha [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4] who had an unconfirmed killcount of around 1000, and a confirmed kill count of at least 705, in less than 100 days.