Update: Beta Tester Leaks Elder Scrolls Online Gameplay Footage

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Lightknight

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Evil Smurf said:
Wait.......Bethesda beta test their games?
Yes, they always put their games through a beta. It's just that the Bethesda beta testing cycle is usually the first 6 months after the game is released to the general public.
 

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Zagzag said:
Given that firstly it's an MMO so the old skyrim engine would be completely unsuitable, and secondly it's not even being made by Bethesda I think it's entirely implausible to claim that the engine is going to be even remotely similar.
Why spend 50 million developing a new engine when you can use a pre-existing one?
 

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008Zulu said:
Zagzag said:
Given that firstly it's an MMO so the old skyrim engine would be completely unsuitable, and secondly it's not even being made by Bethesda I think it's entirely implausible to claim that the engine is going to be even remotely similar.
Why spend 50 million developing a new engine when you can use a pre-existing one?
It's possible that Zenimax online pinched Bethesda's engine, but why not either make their own or license one from someone with an engine more suited to MMOs, since the Skyrim engine would cost at least that much to repurpose in the amount of time it would take, surely.
 

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008Zulu said:
Zagzag said:
Given that firstly it's an MMO so the old skyrim engine would be completely unsuitable, and secondly it's not even being made by Bethesda I think it's entirely implausible to claim that the engine is going to be even remotely similar.
Why spend 50 million developing a new engine when you can use a pre-existing one?
The kind of game breakin bugs in an easily moddable PC game like Skyrim is one thing. The players can and will fix all of them fairly quickly.

Puttin those kinds of bugs in an MMO with the already fairly severe limitations of the engine (seriously, read dev interviews where they talk about the engine. It terrifies me that they keep usin it) and you have a recipe for disaster.
 

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KeyMaster45 said:
And this is why people not breaking their NDAs is so important. People get a look at a very early, unrefined version of the game and people make up their minds about it prematurely. Speaking from prior beta experience with mmos, there is so much change that can take place in a properly run beta that at the end the game looks and plays nothing like it did when it started. Sadly, very few companies seem capable of running betas as nothing more than glorified demos.
Agreed on the last sentence. And with the NDA: You gave your word, so...

On the rest: Nope. totally disagree. I have been in a lot of Beta's. Never seen ANY significant changes to the game. EVER. They fix a few bugs, balance some damage-codes and nerf some combos and XP-gain: Done, perfect product. I think the one real change i've seen recently was in World of Tanks in their "Beta", two years in, they implemented a physics engine.

Man, would be nice to see a cool "AAA" MMORPG. Have been waiting on one for... like 13 years now *g*.
 

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it's a bit of one and a good chunk of the other

while early on in beta is no real indication, by the late stages of the beta, if they don't got their shit together, people mass abandon it like tabula rasa
 

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shintakie10 said:
The kind of game breakin bugs in an easily moddable PC game like Skyrim is one thing. The players can and will fix all of them fairly quickly.

Puttin those kinds of bugs in an MMO with the already fairly severe limitations of the engine (seriously, read dev interviews where they talk about the engine. It terrifies me that they keep usin it) and you have a recipe for disaster.
A lot of MMOs have bugs, Bethesda can always trot out the excuse that this bug is high on their list and they will get to it as soon as they can. But it's been 15 years? If they (Zenimax) haven't worked out how to make a stable game engine by now then they never will.

It's funny that all the games that use a Zenimax engine have exactly the same problems despite us being told they are different engines?
 

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Costia said:
To me it feels kinda weird that an article is posted based on someone breaking the NDA.
If it were a leak by one of the employees, i would say it's their fault.
But this is basically relies on stolen content.
It does get a lot of views, and it is important to the gaming community, but it still feels kinda wrong to me.
Thank you!

Why are we supporting this douchebag at all? Shouldn't be we shunning him/her and their cheap opportunistic nature? Aren't these the kind of people we should be dumping on, not glorifying? I know we're all curious about the game, painfully so, but we should rely on the company to give up the goods instead of giving more attention to a parasite.

Of course, it would be great if we, the potential customers, could point out what's wrong early in the cycle and thereby improve the game. I'd love it if companies did this instead of keeping everything tight-lipped until after the game has been completed and shipped. That said, it should be their choice. It's their baby, not this beta tester's. It's in closed beta now; it's too late to make 99.9% of the changes you could ask for anyway.

That said, it doesn't look like it's going to be very good, from the impression people are giving off...
 

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weirdguy said:
it's a bit of one and a good chunk of the other

while early on in beta is no real indication, by the late stages of the beta, if they don't got their shit together, people mass abandon it like tabula rasa
Release date: 2013 - 5 year development cycle - Early Beta

Sounds legit. Chances are that They will announce the official date at E3 for Q4 and quite frankly it's too late for any drastic changes in the game when it ships.
 

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Anyone who says "wow clone" clearly never played an MMO other than or prior to WoW. WoW was nothing new. It took the good ideas of several mmos, polished them, and put it out in an extremely well done game (played beta and still play)

Oh man, an mmo where you run around and do random crap for random npcs?! WOW CLONE. Its the way mmos are, get more experience in the genre before you complain. Editors of the escapist should edit your post.
 

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and, I am NOT trolling with this, for those of you who happen upon these comments and are not experienced in the mmo world... FEAR NOT! Every MMO had blind hate and disappointment like this thread, dont take anything anyone says seriously and wait for release. Us MMO gamers are very demanding and some of our group to an incredibly naive level, its embarrassing but thats the way it is.