Update: Beta Tester Leaks Elder Scrolls Online Gameplay Footage

[Mr F.]

I would play it. Couldnt see much of the video, it was lagging to hell. Personally, I would not judge a game by its first 20 minutes of gameplay.

In fact, I think I am going to play it. Looks fun, I am ok with it being similar to WoW (WoW WAS fun, the only thing that kept it fun was the playerbase. Prior to Cata, it was an awesome game). Sure, the classic MMO quests are present. But to be fair, every single RPG you have ever played has two quests. "Kill something." "Fetch something". Its life.

So, eh, see you inside, when its released.

 

[KungFuJazzHands]

I am saddened the video doesn't indicate how many times the game crashed. Beta status aside, random crashing is kinda Bethesda's trademark.

Have to agree with it looking like another generic fantasy mmo.

The team that developed Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, etc., is NOT the team that is developing the MMO. That team is most likely hard at work on Fallout 4. This is completely different team, so don't expect the MMO to share much in common with the earlier games, except of course setting, characters, etc.

Bethesda/Zenimax are so heavy-handed when it comes to direct involvement in the games made under their stewardship that I find it hard to believe they will be standing idly by as TESO is being developed. It's a safe bet to assume that Beth maintain direct control of bug testing for TESO, and if past performance is any indication, TESO will be just as buggy as Oblivion, RAGE, Skyrim, and New Vegas.

Back on topic, this game looks like typical generic MMO garbage. It's going to go F2P within six months, and no amount of long-term fanboy subscribers is going to change that fact.

 

[Rob Robson]

Generic and boring looking so far. But i guess its just the start of the game, doubt they would give you any really difficult stuff early on. I would rather a TES6 to be honest, not interested in MMOs, dont have time for all their padded out gameplay, to much space in between locations of interest and the constant grind to level up. I played WOW for a month and it was mind numbingly boring, have no idea how people get hooked on it.

So Bethesda, now you have your MMO itch out the way and it will fail. They all fail. Get to making TES6, which is what people actually want, and make it more like Morrowind than Skyrim.

I am saddened the video doesn't indicate how many times the game crashed. Beta status aside, random crashing is kinda Bethesda's trademark.

Have to agree with it looking like another generic fantasy mmo.

The team that developed Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, etc., is NOT the team that is developing the MMO. That team is most likely hard at work on Fallout 4. This is completely different team, so don't expect the MMO to share much in common with the earlier games, except of course setting, characters, etc.

Bethesda/Zenimax are so heavy-handed when it comes to direct involvement in the games made under their stewardship that I find it hard to believe they will be standing idly by as TESO is being developed. It's a safe bet to assume that Beth maintain direct control of bug testing for TESO, and if past performance is any indication, TESO will be just as buggy as Oblivion, RAGE, Skyrim, and New Vegas.

Back on topic, this game looks like typical generic MMO garbage. It's going to go F2P within six months, and no amount of long-term fanboy subscribers is going to change that fact.

TESO is not being made by Bethesda. It is being developed by a new studio called Zenimax Online. Bethesda are definitely working on a new Fallout or Elder Scrolls (or both) right now, they just have nothing to show or announce because each iteration of these franchises go through 1-2 years of straight programming and creation/improvement engine-side as well as new developer software, while the creative side is busy doing storyboarding, concept art and other pre-production. Beth's office probably looks rather boring right now, just 10 programmers going *ca-clicka-clicka-clicka* into the night for more than a year, while 20 artists e-mail eachother and Todd from home.

 

[The Lunatic]

I have to say. I'm a bit tired of "MMO" being a Genre of game, as opposed to just an amount of players.

I get that this style of gameplay is the staple for MMOs, but, my god, it's so boring for a lot of people about now.

Sure, it was good a few years ago, but, are you really saying, that after 10 years, the most we have to show for MMO combat is manual blocking and maybe some dodge mechanics?

 

[Odbarc]

I don't buy that. They could literally just make Skyrim but an MMO and it would sell like fucking crazy especially if it was multiplatform, what they are doing here is more laziness than cowardice and it annoys the shit out of me

There isn't an issue of what things COULD be doing, it's a matter of what IS and HAS been done.
There are lots of great things that could be done but unless you yourself were willing to risk millions of dollars investing in it, and I'm sure you can't/wouldn't, neither is anyone else.

 

[Dekar]

That's the problem with internet these days: Ignorance and nerd rage thrives with voracious speed, even by the writer of this article who clearly knows nothing what's he talking about.

There are people here spouting "WoW clone" without even knowning what that really means. I played WoW for many, many years, and I'm not even a big fan of the Elder Scrolls series, but anyone who watches this video and searches a little about this game, can clearly see that this game will be VERY different from WoW. If you don't, either you don't know WoW, didn't searched enough, or is plain stupid. Let me show how much this is different by selecting a few crucial elements of MMORPG and compare it:

GRAPHICS: I've played WoW on best resolution and, let me put this straight, it's still crap. This game, recorded in bad resolution and with graphics sub-optimized by the player, is way better than WoW. Characters actually have EXPRESSIONS, and the ammount of customization is enormous, unlike WoW.

LORE: Don't even get me started on that... WoW lore is beautiful and I read almost all books about it. Even though, Elder Scrolls lore is completely different but very rich and thought thoroughly. I've actually seen people here complaining that they can't see any lore on this video... I mean, come on, this is just some random guy jumping around, tweaking with his console and getting killed by wolves. And also, he didn't read anything anyone had to say...You can't expect to see any lore in this situations. Also, this isn't a official footage, and even them, we can see spots of lore here and there, like the dwemer ruins by the end (where he found a book that, guess what, he didn't read)

QUESTS: After seeing a total of TWO quests, people go and say "WoW clone". That's laughable. Let me just quote this from some guy on Zenimax team talking about quests:
This is a good question. Our quests are designed with purpose in mind, or ?context,? if you prefer. We feel very strongly as a team that quests need to make sense and quest granting should be done in a way that is grounded in the world. While we do have various methods for granting quests, most are given by various NPCs. There are still many that are done in other ways, such as finding books, notes, corpses, etc.
It?s also important to keep in mind that there are many activities that aren?t quests. We feel it is just as important to explore, craft, and do various other activities.
Yeah, we find a lot of books, notes and corpses with quests and WoW, and all of them grounded with the world around them, with very creative background and awesome objetives. Only no. Very seldom we see really intriguing quests.

GAME MECHANICS: Wait...Where's that humongous UI? Those 9 skill bars filled with 10 slots each? Oh wait, its there... Phased, with only 7 slots. I was a hardcore raider and, let me say, restringing use of abilities to 7 slots is gold. No more all we ever do is look to cooldowns and character portraits. We can actually see the GAME now.

BATTLE MECHANICS: Completely opposed to WoW. Seriously, if you ever played a Elder Scrolls game, this is EXACTLY like it, with stealth, blocking, various forms of attack. This particular feature beats WoW, and beat it to agonizing death. It's so superior that can't even be compared with that robotic style of playing that WoW prizes.

I could go forever with all the differences, like character build (which WoW almost completelly removed at Cataclysm) that can range to a full plated battle mage to a roguish-evocator-sword and board fighter. You can be ANYTHING you want. But I guess I covered almost all important aspects of it. Just think and search harder before surrendering to these inane comments.

Oh, and I'm not pulling this up from my ass. I'm playing the beta.

 

[mew4ever23]

Hey guys, Riotpixel also got a copyright claim, and pulled the video. Dang.

 

[marcooos]

I don't buy that. They could literally just make Skyrim but an MMO and it would sell like fucking crazy especially if it was multiplatform, what they are doing here is more laziness than cowardice and it annoys the shit out of me

There isn't an issue of what things COULD be doing, it's a matter of what IS and HAS been done.
There are lots of great things that could be done but unless you yourself were willing to risk millions of dollars investing in it, and I'm sure you can't/wouldn't, neither is anyone else.

I could risk buying it... But I won't see how that works. Playing it safe in the MMO market is like trying to make money by filming yourself wanking on the internet - to many people do it for free and or better to make money. The only way this would have had any chance is by putting an elder scrolls game online not a generic MMO

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

The team that developed Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, etc., is NOT the team that is developing the MMO. That team is most likely hard at work on Fallout 4. This is completely different team, so don't expect the MMO to share much in common with the earlier games, except of course setting, characters, etc.

Who is making the game is irrelevant, if it's using the same engine (and there is no reason to suggest they aren't) then the game will crash. Randomly and frequently.

 

[Gilhelmi]

I think people are being a bit hard on the game.

1. Still in Beta. So there will be more updates too the models and game-play.
2. 20 Min? There is no way to gauge the game-play in that short amount of time.
3. Not a word about the Multi-player aspect of it. hmmm, PvP? group PvE? Who are the Friends and foes?


I still give the game a 50/50 crap-shoot, BUT it is still far too early and far too few details, too be ruling a yay or nay on this game.

 

[Costia]

To me it feels kinda weird that an article is posted based on someone breaking the NDA.
If it were a leak by one of the employees, i would say it's their fault.
But this is basically relies on stolen content.
It does get a lot of views, and it is important to the gaming community, but it still feels kinda wrong to me.
I mean, we aren't dealing with a leak from a totalitarian country here, in which case it would be fine to break their trust.
This time it's a beta tester who took advantage of the opportunity given to him, and the media seems to be glorifying it.
Not doing an article at all would be weird, but posting something that looks like a review and a link to the stolen content doesn't feel right to me either.
I would rather see an article about the leak itself and not its content.


Edit:
I guess this is partially due to the wildstar leak response
http://www.wildstar-online.com/en/news/m30_patch_notes.php

The beta patch notes for WildStar were leaked by a current beta tester. Our core fansite supporters have, out of respect for Carbine, opted not to share that leaked information, knowing it was a violation of our mutual trust.

 

[Evil Smurf]

Wait.......Bethesda beta test their games?

 

[Whateveralot]

Snip.

It's kinda sad that so far besides your comment, pretty much everyone else has decried this game as a WoW clone especially since most of the information we have about the game show's that it is more in line with Guild wars 2 in terms of it's gameplay mechanics.

Which, in my eyes, is a good thing.

Thank you.


I'm going to try this game out when it's released.

 

[Simple Bluff]

I don't buy that. They could literally just make Skyrim but an MMO and it would sell like fucking crazy especially if it was multiplatform, what they are doing here is more laziness than cowardice and it annoys the shit out of me

There isn't an issue of what things COULD be doing, it's a matter of what IS and HAS been done.
There are lots of great things that could be done but unless you yourself were willing to risk millions of dollars investing in it, and I'm sure you can't/wouldn't, neither is anyone else.

I could risk buying it... But I won't see how that works. Playing it safe in the MMO market is like trying to make money by filming yourself wanking on the internet - to many people do it for free and or better to make money. The only way this would have had any chance is by putting an elder scrolls game online not a generic MMO

I'm really not quite sure how they could've possibly done that without breaking the game really. If I murdered a side mission critical npc, how would the game compensate other players? They could employ phasing mechanics, or they could just make the npc respawn after a certain amount of time, but that would destroy the point of making Elder Scrolls an online game to begin with. Or they could make it so you CAN'T kill him, but that's already changing the concept of what Elder Scrolls is to begin with.
Also, stealth (and general rougue-like) mechanics would have to be massively overhauled on its own, especially for PvP. That's to say nothing of the levelling system. In my playthrough of Skyrim, my primary char was a master in archery, one handed weapons, destruction magic AND sneaking, and I did that without min/maxing.

(I can't comment on how generic the game actually looks; I didn't get a chance to see the video before it went down.)

I mean really, creating an Elder Scrolls game "but online" would require so much stripping down that there'd barely be anymore Elder Scrolls left. That said, I'd like to see it done but it'd be more of a curiosity than an actual mmo.

The team that developed Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, etc., is NOT the team that is developing the MMO. That team is most likely hard at work on Fallout 4. This is completely different team, so don't expect the MMO to share much in common with the earlier games, except of course setting, characters, etc.

Who is making the game is irrelevant, if it's using the same engine (and there is no reason to suggest they aren't) then the game will crash. Randomly and frequently.

They are using a different engine. It's been confirmed.

 

[Dekar]

It?s understandable for people to be nervous about this game. The fear that it?s just World of Warcraft slapped with some Elder Scrolls color is one that many single-player and WoW-hating players are feeling. But if you?re in this crowd it?s time you wake up and listen to what people are saying. Events like PAX East are showing the world exactly what we?re in for. People speak of it looking like Elder Scrolls, sounding like Elder Scrolls, and more importantly, playing like Elder Scrolls. As more and more people get to experience the game, I think we?ll start hearing less and less of these complaints.

Enough said. Chech this article: http://elderscrollsotr.mymiddleearth.com/2013/04/15/the-elder-scrolls-goes-back-in-time-to-move-forward/

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

They are using a different engine. It's been confirmed.

Kinda like how Skyrim uses a new engine, but turns out it was a refurbishment of Oblivions, which was a refurbishment of Morrowinds? All three games using supposedly different engines that all happen to suffer from the same memory management issues?

 

[LongMuckDong]

Not sure why everyone's calling this a WoW clone. I don't really see anything that resembles WoW besides the outdated graphics. It actually looks more like Skyrim than what I expected.

Exactly what I was thinking...

ZOS needs to release a 5-10 min gameplay video on proper ultra settings using at least the PAX build (MUCH prettier/smoother than this garbage 'no-frills' beta build) - that'll shut most of the whining c**** up in this thread me thinks... "Generic fantasy WoW Clone" whining pencil dicks

You lot need to realise it's:

1) Early Beta footage played by an obvious, obvious troll.. skipping all dialogue.. can't fight for shit, so obvious this has been released to hurt the lead up of the game, it's quite annoying the war bad hype like this wage on a games pre-orders and release success.

2) Being played on a piece of garbage PC, it's running like my grandmother, scratch that, slower than my grandmother.

3) It's been uploaded by a douche called 'Worst Youtube'.. the troll with this leaked footage has done well to pull so many unwitting adventurers into his dank lair..

 

[Amir Kondori]

The team that developed Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, etc., is NOT the team that is developing the MMO. That team is most likely hard at work on Fallout 4. This is completely different team, so don't expect the MMO to share much in common with the earlier games, except of course setting, characters, etc.

Who is making the game is irrelevant, if it's using the same engine (and there is no reason to suggest they aren't) then the game will crash. Randomly and frequently.

Maybe do a quick google search before you make assumptions. The game is using a completely different engine, HeroEngine.

 

[Your Gaffer]

Not sure why everyone's calling this a WoW clone. I don't really see anything that resembles WoW besides the outdated graphics. It actually looks more like Skyrim than what I expected.

Exactly what I was thinking...

ZOS needs to release a 5-10 min gameplay video on proper ultra settings using at least the PAX build (MUCH prettier/smoother than this garbage 'no-frills' beta build) - that'll shut most of the whining c**** up in this thread me thinks... "Generic fantasy WoW Clone" whining pencil dicks

You lot need to realise it's:

1) Early Beta footage played by an obvious, obvious troll.. skipping all dialogue.. can't fight for shit, so obvious this has been released to hurt the lead up of the game, it's quite annoying the war bad hype like this wage on a games pre-orders and release success.

2) Being played on a piece of garbage PC, it's running like my grandmother, scratch that, slower than my grandmother.

3) It's been uploaded by a douche called 'Worst Youtube'.. the troll with this leaked footage has done well to pull so many unwitting adventurers into his dank lair..

You sure make a LOT of assumptions in your post. So what if he skipped dialogue? Maybe he thought he was doing us all a favor and forgoing spoilers. In terms of performance, maybe it was running on a low end PC, or maybe the game has major performance issues right now.

I fear you have fallen into the dank lair of assumption.

 

[Zagzag]

They are using a different engine. It's been confirmed.

Kinda like how Skyrim uses a new engine, but turns out it was a refurbishment of Oblivions, which was a refurbishment of Morrowinds? All three games using supposedly different engines that all happen to suffer from the same memory management issues?

Given that firstly it's an MMO so the old skyrim engine would be completely unsuitable, and secondly it's not even being made by Bethesda I think it's entirely implausible to claim that the engine is going to be even remotely similar.