[UPDATE] BioWare Denies Multiplayer for Mass Effect 3
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And they're totally not taking a risk by attacking a planet and hunkering down where they can easily be overwhelmed by the galactic fleet. Or by keeping a position where Shepherd can easily use the skill set that's long-plagued them to it's full. You know, where he can conduct diplomacy, and go on missions to cripple them with ease.MiracleOfSound said:
Here's a brief idea- forget about Shepherd, and focus on making sure that they can win by destroying Galactic infrastructure, and then making the rest of the targets a piece of cake to wipe out. And THEN they could go after Shepherd.
I'm attacking the premise, not the plot.
I've felt the need to criticise things ever since the Human Reaper.
Seriously? You think moderators on that forum know anything? Unless someone posts with the BioWare logo under their name, it means absolutely nothing. This is a non-story.
Huh. Co-op could be nice, and, if done right, regular VS could do nice, too. Hell, are you guys telling me you wouldn't cream your pants at a Mass Effect: Battlefront type of game, with space battles and different classes/races and all that jazz? I know I would, though I admit I would prefer that be a separate game from ME3. A MP focused game like that, however could potentially be amazing.
'and most of the fans breathed a sigh of relief'
Now they can focus on the important stuff, like making sure all my choices count for something come next game.
No crappy emails kthx.
Now they can focus on the important stuff, like making sure all my choices count for something come next game.
No crappy emails kthx.
As far as I can tell, there is nothing in the trailer / promo bumf that says Earth was hit first.CosmicCommander said:
I can see why they focused on it in the trailer though. Footage of Randomville on the planet Anywheritania doesn't have as much impact, in my opinion, as footage of a well known Earth-city getting a good levelling. When I saw it, my reaction was: "Shit! They're attacking MY planet! Wait...sod "Planet", that's my COUNTRY - where's my bloody gun?" Well maybe that's what my reaction would be if I were "in character" but you know what I mean.
It would make sense if the Reapers hit Earth fairly on in the proceedings though, seeing as it's "close" to The Citadel.
Wardy
I don't object to multiplayer in this series, but I certainly don't want it anywhere near the main trilogy. Here's hoping somebody who actually works for Bioware comes out and confirms this story soon.
Oh, and the moderator in question (Pacifien) is a she. Not that it matters, but that was bugging me. Fix please?
Oh, and the moderator in question (Pacifien) is a she. Not that it matters, but that was bugging me. Fix please?
We must clarify this immediately so people understand that its women who don't know what they are talking about!Veret said:
I generally say stuff like that for comedic effect and to enjoy the glares of people who take such things too seriously, but somehow after seeing other threads on this site I have a feeling its more likely to get me high fived than eyed.
On topic, I was having the same thoughts as Varrdy above me. Earth isn't necessarily a first strike target just because it was seen being attacked in the trailer. The Reapers power is obviously immense as was shown in the last scenes of ME2 and with their surprise tactics its very possible that they could be launching coordinated strikes against the various homeworlds of primary races(sorry Volus) as a technique for demoralization.
-If- the council races are taking the threat seriously after the events of ME2, and thats a big if since there still is likely no hard evidence like they demand then the bulk of the council fleet will be protecting the citadel leaving the homeworlds open as juicy targets to break the races spirit. If the council isn't taking the threat seriously then the attack comes as a total surprise and takes out the heart of your enemies with little loss.
Also, its a very real possibility that by the events of ME3 the war has been raging for some time. They showed with ME2 that there is no problem with doing a time lapse, its really impossible to know what stage the war is at when you pick up the third game. Maybe everyone else has been exterminated and Earth is the last bastion of life? Ha! Take that alien lovers.
I'm fine with that. Mass Effect multiplayer sounds like it could be fun if pulled off correctly, but I'm glad to know that it won't be taking away from the single player experience in ME3. I would be very pissed off if Bioware ended up making ME3 so-so because they decided to work too much on multiplayer.
There would be absolutely no point in Mass Effect 3 multiplayer.
Also, i think now would be a bitchin' time to bring out the Power Rangers.
Also, i think now would be a bitchin' time to bring out the Power Rangers.
I don't think a multiplayer component would necessarily detract from the single player game based on this idea of dev time being split between the two. Or need I remind you people that Bioshock 2 was overall unimpressive despite assurances that multiplayer and single player were both developed by different teams so one would not cut into the other?
I think the truth is simply that some games work in multiplayer and some don't. While the lore would be sound, and a multiplayer game based in the ME universe would be fine (I guess), ME is simply not a multiplayer game. Attempting to shoehorn the game's mechanics into such a thing would be a disaster. Then again, EA isn't known to be above such tactics if they think it will help push the game to a beefier demographic, and in case you forgot they're running things now.
I think the truth is simply that some games work in multiplayer and some don't. While the lore would be sound, and a multiplayer game based in the ME universe would be fine (I guess), ME is simply not a multiplayer game. Attempting to shoehorn the game's mechanics into such a thing would be a disaster. Then again, EA isn't known to be above such tactics if they think it will help push the game to a beefier demographic, and in case you forgot they're running things now.
I would very much NOT like to see Mass Effect 3 with multiplayer. I was told CoD4:MW was a brilliant game with a stong multiplayer scene. No, it was a SHORT game with a multiplayer scene that was primarily populated with complete fuckwits whose only claim to being well-balanced is that they had a chip on both shoulders.
Multiplayer detracts from the single player aspects and attracts more idiots than American churches.
They could do with getting rid of the planet-scanning stuff and bring back the Mako (shut up, it's easy once you get the hang of it!) though.
Addressing some other concerns voiced here, Earth would be a key target because it's still the centre of humanity. There's nothing to say it gets hit first or even early on in proceedings. True there's nothing to say anywhere else gets hit either but it would be bordering on the ridiculous to even consider the notion that nowhere else gets hit.
The way I would imagine things happen, the Reapers would go for the jugular first and mop up the rest later. You can pull the leaves off a weed but unless you eradiate the root, they will grow back. Earth might be hit early on because it's close (in galactic terms) to The Citadel - this is assuming that the Reapers use it, and not some other method, to travel from dark space. Plus I assume the Reaper fleet is vast enough to attack many targets at once. It was certainly big enough at the end of ME2 to raise a nervous "prrp" from my exhaust pipe.
I agree that ME2 was somewhat human-centred comapred to ME1. The in-game argument that humans were being picked on because Shepard killed a Reaper doesn't hold that much weight as it was a team effort. OK so it was a human that pulled the team together in both games and, depending on how you played ME1, humanity is on a roll one way or another but there are other races that would make for a stiffer challenge. Considering that a large amount of the aliens encountered in ME1 and ME2 seem to have no love for humanity then it's incredible Shepard got anywhere at all! Sure the Reapers would recognise Shepard and his crew as a threat because I'm guessing that they've never met such resistance before.
What I am curious about is what happens with regards to Shepard's "alliance" with Cerberus. It's clear that he has no love for them and stresses he was working with and not for them in ME2. Again I suppose it will come down to the decision made at the end of ME2. Personally I reckon the Illusive Man is in cahoots with The Reapers...he has that look in his eyes.
Wardy
Multiplayer detracts from the single player aspects and attracts more idiots than American churches.
They could do with getting rid of the planet-scanning stuff and bring back the Mako (shut up, it's easy once you get the hang of it!) though.
Addressing some other concerns voiced here, Earth would be a key target because it's still the centre of humanity. There's nothing to say it gets hit first or even early on in proceedings. True there's nothing to say anywhere else gets hit either but it would be bordering on the ridiculous to even consider the notion that nowhere else gets hit.
The way I would imagine things happen, the Reapers would go for the jugular first and mop up the rest later. You can pull the leaves off a weed but unless you eradiate the root, they will grow back. Earth might be hit early on because it's close (in galactic terms) to The Citadel - this is assuming that the Reapers use it, and not some other method, to travel from dark space. Plus I assume the Reaper fleet is vast enough to attack many targets at once. It was certainly big enough at the end of ME2 to raise a nervous "prrp" from my exhaust pipe.
I agree that ME2 was somewhat human-centred comapred to ME1. The in-game argument that humans were being picked on because Shepard killed a Reaper doesn't hold that much weight as it was a team effort. OK so it was a human that pulled the team together in both games and, depending on how you played ME1, humanity is on a roll one way or another but there are other races that would make for a stiffer challenge. Considering that a large amount of the aliens encountered in ME1 and ME2 seem to have no love for humanity then it's incredible Shepard got anywhere at all! Sure the Reapers would recognise Shepard and his crew as a threat because I'm guessing that they've never met such resistance before.
What I am curious about is what happens with regards to Shepard's "alliance" with Cerberus. It's clear that he has no love for them and stresses he was working with and not for them in ME2. Again I suppose it will come down to the decision made at the end of ME2. Personally I reckon the Illusive Man is in cahoots with The Reapers...he has that look in his eyes.
Wardy
Do us proud Bioware, resist the multiplayer bandwagon.
I wouldn't balk at a multiplayer game set in the ME universe but I would like to see it kept entirely seperate from the singleplayer aspect.
But if not, then what next? Competitive multiplayer in Dragon Age 2? Surprise announcement coming soon!
I wouldn't balk at a multiplayer game set in the ME universe but I would like to see it kept entirely seperate from the singleplayer aspect.
But if not, then what next? Competitive multiplayer in Dragon Age 2? Surprise announcement coming soon!
Multiplayer Discussion:
I'd hate to say that this is exactly what would happen, but if they feel the need to put multiplayer in I'd be afraid ME3 would likely go the way of Bioshock 2. Sure, Bioshock 2 was fun, but it wasn't phenomenal like the first one was. Had they spent the time they sunk into the multiplayer on that game into the main story line, who knows how much better (and longer!) it could have been.
Story Discussion:
I think we're missing one big fact here though, in regards to why the Reapers attack Earth. All we know about the game is what we've seen from that quick trailer. There's no mention of the citadel at all, much less any other planet. This doesn't necessarily mean that the Reapers passed it up. Mass Effect 2 started, essentially, by skipping ahead a few years, who's to say Mass Effect 3 won't start out by skipping ahead a few weeks? They could thrust us en media res to a point where the citadel has already fallen and now the Reapers are going after the individual home planets of all the big species.
I'd hate to say that this is exactly what would happen, but if they feel the need to put multiplayer in I'd be afraid ME3 would likely go the way of Bioshock 2. Sure, Bioshock 2 was fun, but it wasn't phenomenal like the first one was. Had they spent the time they sunk into the multiplayer on that game into the main story line, who knows how much better (and longer!) it could have been.
Story Discussion:
I think we're missing one big fact here though, in regards to why the Reapers attack Earth. All we know about the game is what we've seen from that quick trailer. There's no mention of the citadel at all, much less any other planet. This doesn't necessarily mean that the Reapers passed it up. Mass Effect 2 started, essentially, by skipping ahead a few years, who's to say Mass Effect 3 won't start out by skipping ahead a few weeks? They could thrust us en media res to a point where the citadel has already fallen and now the Reapers are going after the individual home planets of all the big species.