Update: I GOT a refund for DNF
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Duke Nukem hasn`t changed? Oh yeah, thats right, if someone hit you in duke 3d, you also had to hide like a pussy for 10 secs behind a wall, before you could blow someone up again. Also, in Duke 3d, you could only have 2 weapons equipped, and it was also extremly linear, also it had tons of driving sections that sucked. Oh wait...HassEsser said:
Anyways, congrats OP, didnt know that was possible. Also god im glad i didnt buy that piece of shit.
But, if a person ate the entire pie, that person must have enjoyed it, at some level. At least, that is the very easy argument for the baker to make. It also helps matters that this argument is nearly impossible for the person demanding the refund to counter.TU4AR said:
80$ is 40£. At least the last time I checked 1£ is around 2$.JWRosser said:
New games in Sweden go for 600SEK, which is like.. 65£ or something. I'm pretty tired, so my math might be way off.
So you'd expect money back for the empty pie plate that you hand in after you buy and eat the thing and then decide you don't like it after all? I doubt many stores would refund you for that.TU4AR said:
Steam it seems gives refunds for things like "I am unable to use this entertainment product" but not for things like "I played this game through and didn't like it."
You played the game through. You're paying to play the game through. You got what you paid for. You did not pay for the sense of satisfaction at the end, entertainment products do not carry that guarantee.
This is why you look at reviews and such before you buy entertainment products. Because that's being a smart consumer.
Most of the reviews on DNF say its humor falls flat, and it has awkward design choices. Many people who are fine with that bought it and enjoyed it. You bought it, and did not enjoy it, probably for those reasons. 'It didn't fit my taste' isn't a valid reason.
If you buy a pie, and say 'Oh I was hoping this was a shephard's pie' and they go 'but the sign says cherry pie' it's not refundable, you got what you paid for.
You played the game through. You're paying to play the game through. You got what you paid for. You did not pay for the sense of satisfaction at the end, entertainment products do not carry that guarantee.
This is why you look at reviews and such before you buy entertainment products. Because that's being a smart consumer.
Most of the reviews on DNF say its humor falls flat, and it has awkward design choices. Many people who are fine with that bought it and enjoyed it. You bought it, and did not enjoy it, probably for those reasons. 'It didn't fit my taste' isn't a valid reason.
If you buy a pie, and say 'Oh I was hoping this was a shephard's pie' and they go 'but the sign says cherry pie' it's not refundable, you got what you paid for.
As a man myself, I think it would be nicer to worship a woman rather than another man.Cool Welshy said:
So can we have an empress instead?I wanted DNF because I was sick of the modern shooters coming out 5 times a month and when I got one of those shooters with duke thrown in I was rather disappointed and I think that's why most others are, some parts felt like a Duke Nukem game but only a small amount. have developers forgotten how to make old school games?
No offense, but not if Square and Ubisoft, at the same time no less, have their mits on it. They're no Ion Storm, sure, but I wouldn't trust those two companies to make a good Deus Ex game. Period.TU4AR said:
I'm buying my Balls of Steel version once I get my bills paid next week.
Incredibly impressed you managed to get a refund out of steam. I bought Rift literally the day before it went 35% off in midweek madness. Asked not even for a refund, but even a simple credit of the price difference to my account, and they said they never do refunds or credits like that because the entire system is automated and beyond their control, so I was SOL, they even went so far as to specifically thank me for taking the proper attitude and being polite about it....while still doing nothing. So good show!
OT everything I've seen so far of DNF is exactly about what I expected, will be avoiding. There's enough decent stuff either already out or on the edge of releasing to keep me occupied instead.
OT everything I've seen so far of DNF is exactly about what I expected, will be avoiding. There's enough decent stuff either already out or on the edge of releasing to keep me occupied instead.
The frontline review I had of it came from an associate that made the smart choice of renting it, and certainly got his money's worth as he was able to take it back after 24 hours. Blitzed the whole thing in one day.
Rating: perfectly enjoyable, quite funny if you assume that none of it is to be taken at all seriously or as an endorsement of duke's attitude (the fact that you have to do ludicrous things to top up his "ego bar" is surely a pointer to that) ... and it plays like a title from the late 90s just with a moderately improved graphics engine* (improved to, say, the level of 2008 or so). Except the multiplayer, which is pure 2001 in gameplay and graphics. Sort of Timesplitters-ish.
Quite good for a 24-72 hour nostalgia trip, but you wouldn't want to pay retail and end up owning the thing.
(* quite literally it would seem; one part of the report was unlocking some of the specials... which were development timeline videos... and the very earliest ones featured a lot of key areas that looked and appeared to play exactly the same, except for having lower poly counts, rougher textures and jaggies everywhere)
Rating: perfectly enjoyable, quite funny if you assume that none of it is to be taken at all seriously or as an endorsement of duke's attitude (the fact that you have to do ludicrous things to top up his "ego bar" is surely a pointer to that) ... and it plays like a title from the late 90s just with a moderately improved graphics engine* (improved to, say, the level of 2008 or so). Except the multiplayer, which is pure 2001 in gameplay and graphics. Sort of Timesplitters-ish.
Quite good for a 24-72 hour nostalgia trip, but you wouldn't want to pay retail and end up owning the thing.
(* quite literally it would seem; one part of the report was unlocking some of the specials... which were development timeline videos... and the very earliest ones featured a lot of key areas that looked and appeared to play exactly the same, except for having lower poly counts, rougher textures and jaggies everywhere)
I do not quite understand what you mean by 'Deus Ex 3, your argument is invalid'. The game is not out yet, and thus we cannot make any judgement about what it does right and wrong, as things may still change (I remember when people were saying DNF looked awesome).TU4AR said:Deus Ex 3, your argument is invalid.Joccaren said:
But for the record, DN:F is not a "return to the old days of FPS". And it's not lack of innovation that people are complaining about. It's that the game is shit. The level design is shit. The humour is awful.
Interesting fact about Duke Nukem 3D: It was never intended as a humour game. The jokes, the strippers, this was all inserted after the game was finished. It was a game first and comedy second. Building a game around flinging shit and abortion jokes? That's just crap.
It is also impossible to have a completely new gameplay style, and make the game have the same gameplay style as was used earlier. It IS impossible. It is possible to make a mix of both, which |I had stated was possible if you took some time to read my post.
Also, I have heard a number of people complaining about a lack of innovation, I never said that everyone said that, only that 'a number of people'. Some may be complaining (legitimately) about level design. I do not think you can speak for everyone, which is what your statement there implies. Use more careful wording to avoid this kind of confusion, and read the more careful wording in my post.
The humour is a matter of taste, and whether you take it as it is, or seriously. It is a satire, the humour is meant to be horrible and over the top, and it is making fun of the joke itself, saying that it is funny because of its stupidity, not it is funny because it is a funny joke.
Ah damn, does that mean they turned down my refund because I starting swearing, yelling racist epithets and then demanded the soul of their first born (after which I, needless to say, sent a nail bomb to their office)?Atmos Duality said:
Just kidding, it was an anthrax package.
Jokes apart, I've never tried to get a refund for anything on Steam. They quite explicitly state that no refunds will be granted, so I'm pretty impressed you two managed to get one (or rather, two!).
I'm going to play the thing, and I'm going to love it either way.
If it's a good game (to me), then good.
If it sucks, then it will be a fitting punch line to the longest joke in gaming history. Tell me if you've heard this one before "A game was announced around 1998. However, the game was finally released in 2011. The game sucked."
If it's a good game (to me), then good.
If it sucks, then it will be a fitting punch line to the longest joke in gaming history. Tell me if you've heard this one before "A game was announced around 1998. However, the game was finally released in 2011. The game sucked."
Maybe it is neapolitan ice cream and you expected other parts to be better? I agree with the other guy though, haha. Man, I've preordered a game (Socom 4), played the beta (Socom 4), realized it was crap (Socom 4), even though the developers said that it was a beta and all the problems and annoying bullshit wouldn't be in the final product (Socom 4), tried to get my money back on my preorder (Socom 4), and the store told me I couldn't.....(Socom 4) I spoke to the manager and couldn't see why my money I put down on a guaranteed copy for a game that was not currently out could not be refunded. I was put through hoops and eventually given my money back, but man, for a shitty game that wasn't out, I was at the point where I was trying to figure out who I needed to blow to get my money back on something they hadn't even given me (Socom 4). By the way, don't pick up Socom 4 if you haven't, it's quite a terrible game.TU4AR said: