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[UPDATE] Microsoft Devastates Autistic Child By Labeling Him a Cheater
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Not to sound insensitive, but I really don't see what the child been austistic has to do with anything. It just sounds like one of those "I'm worse off so I deserve special treatment" kind of arguments to me.
I think any gamer would be devastated to lose their hard-earned achievements if they feel they were wrongly taken away, and this just reeks of trying to get preferential treatment - like women who think they should come first because they're pregnant or have kids. Cause let's face it: if this were a normal kid, it wouldn't have had any sort of news coverage...
I think any gamer would be devastated to lose their hard-earned achievements if they feel they were wrongly taken away, and this just reeks of trying to get preferential treatment - like women who think they should come first because they're pregnant or have kids. Cause let's face it: if this were a normal kid, it wouldn't have had any sort of news coverage...
well if he really did cheat he should not be hold seperate
if he didnt give him his achivements back
problem? none
if he didnt give him his achivements back
problem? none
Oh no! Now what's he going to do? Go outside?
OT: This is why you buy a playstation, because microsoft are run by a$$holes.
OT: This is why you buy a playstation, because microsoft are run by a$$holes.
I'm actually a little more disturbed that a "mother" trying to show her son in the right has a twitter name of "Cold A** Sunshine." It makes it harder to take her seriously. I'm not sure why, but I look at that and I'm like, "really?"Jamash said:
I wish someone'd make the reasons public. I deal with ASD on a daily basis as a teacher, and there's still jost not enough here to make me take one side or the other.
Can't believe this went on for 14 pages worth of comments... frankly, I don't care if he's autistic or not, that's beside the point. Gamerscores and Achievements don't mean anything. If such arbitrary made-up, bullshit "rewards" hadn't been created in the first place, they wouldn't have had to disappoint the boy as such. Even the spell checker underlines "Gamerscore" in red, it's pure bullshit.
They're only a little more meaningless than the High Score lists of any Arcade Game from the 70s, 80s or 90s. Those are at least individual scores per game and were part of a social and competitive environment in those days: "How good can I do in the least amount of quarters and knock this dweeb's name off of 1st place?" In the end though, the arcade and distributors still got your money anyway so it was all frivolous.
They're only a little more meaningless than the High Score lists of any Arcade Game from the 70s, 80s or 90s. Those are at least individual scores per game and were part of a social and competitive environment in those days: "How good can I do in the least amount of quarters and knock this dweeb's name off of 1st place?" In the end though, the arcade and distributors still got your money anyway so it was all frivolous.
He cheated, that's that. Just because he has autism doesn't mean he can cheat and get away with it. (I know I sound heartless but it just annoys me that everyone got up in arms saying "Fuck you Microsoft! Give him his cheevos back)
Being someone who is on the Autistic Spectrum, let me say this. Anyone who is on the spectrum will become interested and focus on one thing (almost obsessively), for this kid it was getting achievements.
He probably played quite a bit to get them, and since not many people play games just to get achievements, not just to play. Since he became intent on getting these achievements and got them so quickly, Microsoft must have thought he hacked his account and took away his achievements because it "looked like he hacked his account".
Microsoft. GIVE THE KID BACK HIS ACHIEVEMENTS!!!
He probably played quite a bit to get them, and since not many people play games just to get achievements, not just to play. Since he became intent on getting these achievements and got them so quickly, Microsoft must have thought he hacked his account and took away his achievements because it "looked like he hacked his account".
Microsoft. GIVE THE KID BACK HIS ACHIEVEMENTS!!!
I completely agree I was about to edit it saying that. I apologize and I in no way meant to say he or any autistic person was stupid. It is amazing what they can do; I apologize once again if that is how I sounded or if I offended anyone.MaxPowers666 said:
But it's not a highscore system, it's a percent completion system multiplied by ten. Let's put it in these terms; say I play games for the challenge, but you play them for the story. I put a single player game on the hardest difficulty, and struggle through it all the way to the end. You, on the other hand, cheat to make it easier to get through the story. Does it really hurt me in any way that, at the end of the day, your completion bar reads the same as mine? So why should it matter that some kid may or may not have cheated on his gamer score?Anton P. Nym said:
I'd really like my gameshark back, Microsoft. Fit it with some sort of lockout chip that recognizes multiplayer modes if you have to, but bring back singleplayer cheats. They were so much fun to screw around with back in the day.
am I the only one who thinks that A) the journalists who wrote the story use the Autisim angle to shift reader sympathy towards the kid and
B) If this child does suffer from an autisim spectrum disorder, he is in the higher functioning group like Aspergher's and thus has the capability to cheat.
B) If this child does suffer from an autisim spectrum disorder, he is in the higher functioning group like Aspergher's and thus has the capability to cheat.
It's been proven that the child was the cheater and, basically, the only real flow of debate is slowly reverting into a "microsoft is asshole" debate. In fact, it's teetering on that precipice now.
OT: 9/10 mental illnesses claimed on the internet are self-diagnosed. The statements on this post serve to support this statistic.
OT: 9/10 mental illnesses claimed on the internet are self-diagnosed. The statements on this post serve to support this statistic.
87,000. That sure is huge, but I've seen higher. A person I know of has at least 110,000 gamerscore. Apparently he told me that his mother buys games for him constantly, like every week. This kid is in college now.
I see where you are coming from, but you kind of shot yourself in the foot with your point about the GameShark where you acknowledge that cheating should be restricted to single player experiences.Owyn_Merrilin said:
What you fail to realize is that Achievements are not a single player experience. Achievements are essentially a world wide metagame. Now, you can chose not to play or only care about the gamerscore of your personal friends but not everyone plays like that and it's not fair to them when a bunch of cheaters throw off the curve.
Just because you don't value something doesn't mean it doesn't have value.robinkom said:
I personally couldn't give a fuck about the Oscars, but who the fuck am I to say some up-and coming-actor shouldn't care about it?
Anyway, as for the story.
If he cheated, he should be punished just like everyone else regardless of his autism.
What i'd like to know is how exactly does one get labeled a cheat? What do you have to do? I'm one that gives no rat's ass about my score or achievements but it made me wonder how do you cheat on x-box? I just, play the game and get the scores and achievements, are there codes and such floating around? The only "cheating" i do is look up stuff on www.gamefaqs.com when i need help for a game. Weird though, on the computer i'd understand but the X-box leaves me a bit baffled.
