UPDATE: PS3 Hacker GeoHot Claims He's on Vacation
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Entitled little shits will be entitled little shits. I'm with Sony on this one, it's millions of gamers wanting to play online games without widespread hacking vs tens, maybe hundreds of OtherOS users.montopolis said:
You can't do anything you want with products you buy. You can't modify a nailgun, you can't use your computer to view illegal materials, you can't hack websites, you can't mess with the wires to get free cable. I hope Sony ruin this kid.
Yeah the guys screwed alright. Incidentally, when I think of Sony's Hit men I think of the agents from the matrix, except with a little more diversity.Raiyan 1.0 said:
Well it does look like this guy is screwed, even if he could try to justify what he did it would still look very bad. Fleeing the country, possibly using money that was meant to help fund your case to buy a plane ticket, tampering with evidence, claiming you have a life. Very, very, bleak times ahead for this one.
So, are those user agreements actually legally binding in the U.S. then? I don't think that would have mattered in the EU, the only thing Sony should have the right to do is to deny him access to the PSN, not to sue him.
I don't have the details about his hacking activity, but I don't really see him doing anything illegal before he allegedly fled the country using cash he had been donated for another use, which might be enough for convicting him of fraud here, but I'm not sure about that.
I don't have the details about his hacking activity, but I don't really see him doing anything illegal before he allegedly fled the country using cash he had been donated for another use, which might be enough for convicting him of fraud here, but I'm not sure about that.
That makes sense, because there is a small chance of ever getting something back from the police even if he is ruled innocent, you'd probably want to give them only what they specifically ask for, and nothing more. If he had set up his system with a RAID controller card, or SCSI drives that also generally require controller cards, I can see the police not being able to use the drives.Ympulse said:
On the whole "Is releasing information dangerous and does it make you responsible" Argument.
Well I want to give you all a very familiar scenario about the Nuclear physicists that descovered how to create nuclear weapons. It's true that Nuclear power plants are a force of good and knowledge that should be shared, but weapons? The only reason Scientists told their leaders they could make them was out of fear the OTHER scientists would inform THEIR leaders first.
Now? Now we have a stockpile of Nuclear weapons, for a Cold War there was the fear of everything going south and killing us all. Don't ask me who you would blame for this, what you think is irrelivant. Who do you think THEY blame?
THEMSELVES.
Information is DANGEROUS in the wrong hands, whether you think that releasing the rootkit was good or bad the fact of the matter is Mr. Hotz has to take responsibility for doing it. The bad that stemmed from it, AKA the Pirate crowd? the onus is on his shoulders because he gave them a means to an end.
Always remember, Information is power, at the right time it can end us all.
Well I want to give you all a very familiar scenario about the Nuclear physicists that descovered how to create nuclear weapons. It's true that Nuclear power plants are a force of good and knowledge that should be shared, but weapons? The only reason Scientists told their leaders they could make them was out of fear the OTHER scientists would inform THEIR leaders first.
Now? Now we have a stockpile of Nuclear weapons, for a Cold War there was the fear of everything going south and killing us all. Don't ask me who you would blame for this, what you think is irrelivant. Who do you think THEY blame?
THEMSELVES.
Information is DANGEROUS in the wrong hands, whether you think that releasing the rootkit was good or bad the fact of the matter is Mr. Hotz has to take responsibility for doing it. The bad that stemmed from it, AKA the Pirate crowd? the onus is on his shoulders because he gave them a means to an end.
Always remember, Information is power, at the right time it can end us all.
I'm skeptical about the PSN ID, It says a general area. Anyone in Glen Rock could have that PSN ID. Plus IP tracking isn't incredibly accurate without cooperation from the telco companies or having access to government infrastructure.montopolis said:
For example, I live in Hamilton NZ with my autodetected IP I live in Auckland.
http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation&IpAddress=124.197.15.139
Read the <url=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/108693-UPDATE-PS3-Hacker-GeoHot-Owned-by-Sony-Flees-Country>update. He's on vacation. Which can't be funded by the donation money since he closed it after collecting around $10,000 (all of which is going to his lawyers). And this is a civil case, not a criminal one, meaning it's not illegal for him to leave. As for tampering with evidence, <url=http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/115/1157239p1.html>no he didn't. Hotz might look like a douche in the photo, but Sony is the bigger douche spreading all these lies.Dimensional Vortex said:
The internet has a tendency to jump to conclusions.
Why should he postponed it till after the trial? That could be years. I say take the vacation when you can especially if it was already paid for.Regiment said:
It is not like he is a wanted man or has to be somewhere specific until the trial starts, which is sometime in April if I am not mistaken.
Well the vacation was payed for before this entire trouble began so he used money he might not have at the time of the donations anyway (they might have been used to buy something in the time between if he hadn't used them on a vacation). It has afterall been 4 or 5 months since he bought the vacation (can't remember if it was in October or November).
What I am trying to say here is that we cannot know if he would have had those money now if he hadn't bought the vacation and as such the argument that he is using money on vacation instead of the trial is moot.
What I am trying to say here is that we cannot know if he would have had those money now if he hadn't bought the vacation and as such the argument that he is using money on vacation instead of the trial is moot.
*cough*SpaceMedarotterX said:
So there's this story about american spies who "jumped", deciding that the only way to stop proliferation was to release the available information to everyone. In order to push their own government into abandoning plans to take advantage of their perceived strategic upper hand.
I mean.. sorry, but history is a bit more complex than you think.