[UPDATE] Sony and Rockstar: Neither L.A. Noire Nor Firmware Overheating PS3 Consoles

[JDKJ]

Do you think you're getting inFamous as part of Sony's "Welcome Back" offer? If you are, I hate to break the bad news to ya: that offer is only for those who were signed up before the outage. If you weren't signed up before the outage, then you gets nada . . . nada damn thing.

...And? It's a "Welcome Back" offer. If you signed up for PSN -after- the outage, you weren't at all inconvenienced. It's not about giving new customers stuff, it's about apologizing to previous ones who may not return.

Which to me is perfectly reasonable. If you haven't been assed out, than you shouldn't get the compensation. I'm just trying to dissuade those who think that they'll qualify for it if they sign up today. That does seem to be a popular misconception.

 

[JDKJ]

If you can't stand the heat, get out of LA... Noire
And there's ANOTHER reason not to by a PS3

...Did you not read the article? It's happening on the X360 as well.

Yeah, but it's still true.

But if so, then it's also a reason not to buy an Xbox. You do see that conclusion is to be found based on your own logic, don't you? If so, why'd you'd limit your conclusion to only the PS3? That wasn't very bright of you, was it?

It's not about being bright, it's about being selective. I just chose to comment on the PS3's failure, just like the title of the article.

You're not doing much to dispel the "not bright" conclusion. The title of the article ("Sony: L.A. Noire Overheating PS3 Consoles, Not Firmware") makes clear that in Sony's opinion the overheating is attributable to the game, not the console. Did you misread the title? And the article itself and the link to its original source make even more clear that the fault is the game's, not the console's. Did you read any of that material before posting? If you did, did you also misinterpret that material?

I refer you back to my original statement:
If you can't stand the heat, Get out of LA... Noire

LOL!! That's not all you stated originally. And it doesn't matter that you went back and edited your post to delete "And there's ANOTHER reason not to by a PS3." Too late for that. Someone already quoted your post. You're stuck with the statement. And shame on you for even attempting to delete so as to create the false impression that you never made the statement. That's not kosher.

 

[TheMagicLemur]

Which to me is perfectly reasonable. If you haven't been assed out, than you shouldn't get the compensation. I'm just trying to dissuade those who think that they'll qualify for it if they sign up today. That does seem to be a popular misconception.

Ooooh, ok. Yeah, a lot of people are stupid like that.

 

[MrGFunk]

That ain't good for a game that was supposed to be a PS3 exclusive at first. Good thing my eyes or set on other things or this might have fried my PS3 Phat, a console that I would not part with for a slim.

Too right, I would be royally narc'd if Big Poppa overheated due to a game in which I'm only fleetingly interested and considering to give a whirl.

I shall be waiting for a better fix than 'save often'. I doubt a console likes to 'overheat until shutdown' multiple times a day.

OT: A game shouldn't trigger a console's safety features, what is going on here?

 

[aaronx83]

too powerful game?

 

[Ian Caronia]

Ha I like entry number six on the Rockstar FAQ

"6. Try your L.A. Noire disc in a different console or try a different L.A. Noire disc in your console to determine with certainty whether the issue could be with the disc or console, rather than the software."

Oh good I will just run out and buy another copy of a game that might not work or pop the game in my backup PS3 I keep around for just such occasions

/Facepalm

Because nobody has mates with consoles, or indeed 360 owners dont have a couple of disks.......

Just because a instruction is useless to you doenst make it useless to all.

No. No it makes it useless to all in this case. That instruction is horrible. Try a different LA Noire disc?
No. No one buys more than one. And why the shit would you do that if you think the GAME is causing the overheat? "Try a different game" is a much better way of testing to see if the system is at fault or if the HUGE game (look at the PS3 space required for this sucker) is at fault.

But of course, this is Rockstar. They'd never tell anyone to try a different game other than their latest title.

 

[RanD00M]

"Players of The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim have begun to learn new languages overnight. And even more than that, they know Kung Fu."

As unlikely as that sounds, nothing would make me want Skyrim more than that.

Too right, I would be royally narc'd if Big Poppa overheated due to a game in which I'm only fleetingly interested and considering to give a whirl.

Me and that black bastard have some history together. History that nothing small and skinny can ever accomplish.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

Ugh. Gaming news sucks lately. Any good news? Like...

"Mass Effect 3 to revive dead consoles, and heal all corrupted save files."

"Players of The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim have begun to learn new languages overnight. And even more than that, they know Kung Fu."

"LA Noire to heal the sick and feed the hungry".

OT: Meh, I really had no interist in this game thus far, so I doubt I will be getting it. Maybe in a year when the price drops I'll pick it up, provided this is sorted out by then.

 

[JET1971]

Really? I didn't even know something like that was possible.
One might argue against the PC platform; It is not possible to do any damage on my hardware due to overheating. No matter how bad any firmware or any other software is made.

I suggest you look into how overheating affects electronics. the fact is everytime your system overheats its lifespan decreases significantly. and any single overheat can brick your console the more times it overheats the greater the risk of it becoming a paperwieght.

Theres a good chance that many of the systems affected just need a visit from a screwdriver and some canned air to blow out the dust buildup on the heatsinks. as well as games today are pushing the old hardware to its max. when its pushed to its max the tiny little fans on it can barely keep up and dirty heatsinks will ofcourse push it over the edge, and even ambient room temperature itself could if the heatsinks are clean.

 

[Kopikatsu]

I have a pre-existing PSN account because I've used it to buy games for my PSP for the past two years or so. I've been wanting to buy ZHP, but couldn't. WHY IS THE WORLD SO CRUEL?

In that case my good man, there's a good chance you'll be able to claim 2 PSP games as well as those 2 PS3 games!
Need the store to be back up to confirm that though.

Anyways, in addition to inFamous, I'd advise you to take LittleBigPlanet as well-at the very least, you'll get some additional very strong content for free, but it depends if you like the genre. Pretty sweet 1st choice though, made better by the fact that inFamous 2 comes out next month-with a mission editor as well!

LBP isn't really my thing. I'm going with inFamous and Dead Nation.

Anywho...this is totally a plot by Nintendo. Now that Sony has been run through the mud, it's on to Microsoft! Nintendo will be King! King Koopa!

 

[JDKJ]

Really? I didn't even know something like that was possible.
One might argue against the PC platform; It is not possible to do any damage on my hardware due to overheating. No matter how bad any firmware or any other software is made.

That's not true. PCs, because of their size, are a lot less susceptible to overheating. It's because consoles are so much smaller and all their heat-generating components are jammed together in a small space next to each other that they tend to overheat easily.

 

[Kopikatsu]

-snip-

I hate racing games...but I love driving through destruction.

The only racing games that I would ever play are: Burnout, Motor Storm Apocolypse, and Split/Second...and I liked the first driving section in Alone in the Dark. (The new one)

This is getting off topic, though. Dx

 

[Madman123456]

Really? I didn't even know something like that was possible.
One might argue against the PC platform; It is not possible to do any damage on my hardware due to overheating. No matter how bad any firmware or any other software is made.

I suggest you look into how overheating affects electronics. the fact is everytime your system overheats its lifespan decreases significantly. and any single overheat can brick your console the more times it overheats the greater the risk of it becoming a paperwieght.

Theres a good chance that many of the systems affected just need a visit from a screwdriver and some canned air to blow out the dust buildup on the heatsinks. as well as games today are pushing the old hardware to its max. when its pushed to its max the tiny little fans on it can barely keep up and dirty heatsinks will of course push it over the edge, and even ambient room temperature itself could if the heatsinks are clean.

I did look into that. It is true that any part of any system will life a short life if it runs with a 100% capacity all the time. The Playstation 3 and the Xbox however are build in such a way that the heat will build up and fry the system, relatively easy with the older xboxes because the drive sits right on top of the heatsinks, obstructing airflow. Interesting built strategy.

Those things should be able to endure at least some time with the CPU running at max capacity, in the hottest regions the consoles are sold.

There could be games out there that shorten the lifespan of a console due to bad coding, like if something has your drive spin up a million times and therefore shortening the lifespan of that drive.

But if the console is relatively clean, it should not be possible to damage the system due to overheating because the console it self should be designed in such a way that it can run at maximum capacity and deal with the heat in the hottest regions that console is sold.

That is apparently not the case and that is a reason not to buy a console.

One may consider PCs to be large and bulky even if in a barebone case, but a large machine is better then a broken machine.

 

[rob_simple]

I'd love to find out more about this, but unfortunately Fallout: New Vegas already bricked my PS3.

Thanks, guys!

 

[JDKJ]

Really? I didn't even know something like that was possible.
One might argue against the PC platform; It is not possible to do any damage on my hardware due to overheating. No matter how bad any firmware or any other software is made.

I suggest you look into how overheating affects electronics. the fact is everytime your system overheats its lifespan decreases significantly. and any single overheat can brick your console the more times it overheats the greater the risk of it becoming a paperwieght.

Theres a good chance that many of the systems affected just need a visit from a screwdriver and some canned air to blow out the dust buildup on the heatsinks. as well as games today are pushing the old hardware to its max. when its pushed to its max the tiny little fans on it can barely keep up and dirty heatsinks will of course push it over the edge, and even ambient room temperature itself could if the heatsinks are clean.

I did look into that. It is true that any part of any system will life a short life if it runs with a 100% capacity all the time. The Playstation 3 and the Xbox however are build in such a way that the heat will build up and fry the system, relatively easy with the older xboxes because the drive sits right on top of the heatsinks, obstructing airflow. Interesting built strategy.

Those things should be able to endure at least some time with the CPU running at max capacity, in the hottest regions the consoles are sold.

There could be games out there that shorten the lifespan of a console due to bad coding, like if something has your drive spin up a million times and therefore shortening the lifespan of that drive.

But if the console is relatively clean, it should not be possible to damage the system due to overheating because the console it self should be designed in such a way that it can run at maximum capacity and deal with the heat in the hottest regions that console is sold.

That is apparently not the case and that is a reason not to buy a console.

One may consider PCs to be large and bulky even if in a barebone case, but a large machine is better then a broken machine.

But the console isn't designed in that way. It's primarily designed to meet a particular price point. They could design and manufacture it to withstand the possibility of overheating but doing so would push its price point up close to the price of a gaming-equipped PC. At which point they'd no longer be a competitive alternative to a PC. Unfortunately, the old saying that you get what you pay for is often quite true.

 

[JDKJ]

Really? I didn't even know something like that was possible.
One might argue against the PC platform; It is not possible to do any damage on my hardware due to overheating. No matter how bad any firmware or any other software is made.

I suggest you look into how overheating affects electronics. the fact is everytime your system overheats its lifespan decreases significantly. and any single overheat can brick your console the more times it overheats the greater the risk of it becoming a paperwieght.

Theres a good chance that many of the systems affected just need a visit from a screwdriver and some canned air to blow out the dust buildup on the heatsinks. as well as games today are pushing the old hardware to its max. when its pushed to its max the tiny little fans on it can barely keep up and dirty heatsinks will of course push it over the edge, and even ambient room temperature itself could if the heatsinks are clean.

I did look into that. It is true that any part of any system will life a short life if it runs with a 100% capacity all the time. The Playstation 3 and the Xbox however are build in such a way that the heat will build up and fry the system, relatively easy with the older xboxes because the drive sits right on top of the heatsinks, obstructing airflow. Interesting built strategy.

Those things should be able to endure at least some time with the CPU running at max capacity, in the hottest regions the consoles are sold.

There could be games out there that shorten the lifespan of a console due to bad coding, like if something has your drive spin up a million times and therefore shortening the lifespan of that drive.

But if the console is relatively clean, it should not be possible to damage the system due to overheating because the console it self should be designed in such a way that it can run at maximum capacity and deal with the heat in the hottest regions that console is sold.

That is apparently not the case and that is a reason not to buy a console.

One may consider PCs to be large and bulky even if in a barebone case, but a large machine is better then a broken machine.

My apologies. I inadvertently double-posted. I also just got back from lunch (pastrami on rye, pickle on the side).