Remove the second m to get your answerTheBluesader said:On a personal note, I thought Mormons were brighter than this.
Remove the second m to get your answerTheBluesader said:On a personal note, I thought Mormons were brighter than this.
btw, fun fact: the wanker who is primarily in charge in australia for resisting r18+ games here... his son is a hardcore gamer.NiceGurl_14 said:Dear god what next. I think he's aiming to be public enemy #1 for the gaming community. If so he's doing a damn good job of it. Ultimately, his goal is to get rid of gaming all together because "it poses a threat to society" well sorry old Jack, gaming is here to stay. DEAL WITH IT!! Now watch, I'll laugh my ass off if we find out later on that his son is a hardcore gamer. Life works in funny ways like that.
It's called the First Amendment. Here, read this.gmer412 said:Ya know, I'm not so sure that this bill is evil. I mean, what's wrong with prohibiting stores from selling violent videogames to kids? It's probably not addressing the real problem, but isn't this bill simply enforcing the law? Feel free to smite me with your logic as to why it's evil.
That's why I suggested doing it by press conference. Make it plain to the people of Utah that this law forces them to sell anything to anyone, that it's political chicanery and not reasoned policy, that it's plainly poorly thought-out... much as I hate encouraging the public to have even more distrust of their public officials when such has already reached toxic levels in the US, in this case the distrust really is deserved.Malygris said:My only concern is that Thompson and/or the Utah legislators are actually playing the long game here: They put into place a law they know will force retailers away from the ESRB, then wait a year or two and introduce a new bill legislating game sales - which is what Thompson really wants - because there's no rating system being used, there are no controls over game sales at all, it's goddamn Thunderdome out there and somebody has to do something! I don't know whether Thompson is capable of such deviousness, but politicians... yeah.
The problem is that it isn't enforcing a law, its enforcing store policy (besides all of the other loopholes). The ESRB isn't law, it was developed to get whining people like Jack Thompson off of our backs. Stores may choose whether or not to use the ESRB ratings, and most do simply because it shows them as being more responsible (as well as having game ratings printed on the box of mose games they recieve). This bill, therefore, punishes stores for backing said ratings, and then making a mistake. If somehow an 8 year old gets out of the store with GTA4, then that store will have a major lawsuit placed on it simply because it broke store policy. They don't advertise that they don't sell video games to minors, its just something that they try not to do, and therefore one cannot punish them for false advertising.gmer412 said:Ya know, I'm not so sure that this bill is evil. I mean, what's wrong with prohibiting stores from selling violent videogames to kids? It's probably not addressing the real problem, but isn't this bill simply enforcing the law? Feel free to smite me with your logic as to why it's evil.
Ohhh. I see. Well, I guess he is still has contributed nothing to the good of our country.Malygris said:It's called the First Amendment. Here, read this.gmer412 said:Ya know, I'm not so sure that this bill is evil. I mean, what's wrong with prohibiting stores from selling violent videogames to kids? It's probably not addressing the real problem, but isn't this bill simply enforcing the law? Feel free to smite me with your logic as to why it's evil.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/op-ed/5491-A-Crash-Course-in-ESRB
It explains, briefly, why videogame sales (among other things) cannot legally be restricted in the US, which is why Thompson's bills have inevitably failed, but also why this one may not. Of course, the irony is that by taking real steps to ensure this bill doesn't violate the First Amendment, it's bee made not just worthless and unenforceable but actually harmful to everyone involved in the process by essentially forcing Utah retailers to step away from the ESRB and any voluntary attempts to regulate sales to minors. It's both mind-boggling and disgraceful what this man will do to claim a "victory" over his perceived foes.
Oh, what literary wit! :]shial said:Remove the second m to get your answerTheBluesader said:On a personal note, I thought Mormons were brighter than this.