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tippy2k2

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>Allred
And people thought he might win Texas. Lol, lmao.
But let's see some of those other names.
Cuellar
Gottheimer
Schiff

We got a who's who list of shitty dems.
Even though that ***** Craig won, I'm proud to say I at least didn't vote for her and it's because of shit like this.
 

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The meme government efficiency department has two unelected bosses

I knew this was gonna be the dumbest 4 years of my life, I just didn't think it would start this early
I thought government departmental heads were commonly appointed. Down here the Prime Minister makes a written recommendation to the Governor General about who to appoint as the Secretary of a Department of State.

I mean those guys should probably have to divest themselves of all the other hats they wear lest the speak through the wrong one, but I don’t see it as unusual for them to be directly appointed in this manner.
 

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I thought government departmental heads were commonly appointed. Down here the Prime Minister makes a written recommendation to the Governor General about who to appoint as the Secretary of a Department of State.

I mean those guys should probably have to divest themselves of all the other hats they wear lest the speak through the wrong one, but I don’t see it as unusual for them to be directly appointed in this manner.
The bigger joke is that the department dedicated to cutting excess jobs has 2 bosses.
 

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I wonder which one of them is the actual Departmental Secretary. Like you can’t have two unless the department has two distinct functions or is partnered with another agency.

It isn't clear, but the implication is that it'll be Musk in charge? I mean, makes sense, he is the white one.
 
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It isn't clear, but the implication is that it'll be Musk in charge? I mean, makes sense, he is the white one.
I notice the capitalised G great for Elon there, that doesn’t make it sound like something weird at all.

So like this is the setting up of a large major bureaucratic apparatus purely for the sake of dismantling other bureaucracies which to me begs the question; what do they do when they think they’ve succeeded? Does the department get dissolved?

Also, is Elon going to resign as CEO of Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter and his other concerns? Like he can probably stay majority shareholder but surely there’s a conflict of interest/probity issue with him being in charge of a government body AND three high profile private enterprises.
 
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I notice the capitalised G great for Elon there, that doesn’t make it sound like something weird at all.

So like this is the setting up of a large major bureaucratic apparatus purely for the sake of dismantling other bureaucracies which to me begs the question; what do they do when they think they’ve succeeded? Does the department get dissolved?

Also, is Elon going to resign as CEO of Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter and his other concerns? Like he can probably stay majority shareholder but surely there’s a conflict of interest/probity issue with him being I charge of a government body AND three high profile private enterprises.
2 of the 3 private enterprises being heavily intertwined with the government and taking government money. I mean, Space X basically doesn't exist without NASA.
 
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Maybe Trump is gonna pull a Democrats and say he WANTS to get all this cool shit done like the tariffs and whatnot but realizes now it's an incredibly stupid idea that'll make everyone hate him so he has to hamstring himself so he can "try to push it through" without the risk of it actually passing.

He's just pulling members to be in his cabinet rather than getting a rotating villain like Manchin or Sinema to block it
We had this state premier (governor) a decade ago. He would create all these wonderful 'programs' that would help people. He then deliberately underfunded them and then blamed every worker in that program for it failing
 
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I notice the capitalised G great for Elon there, that doesn’t make it sound like something weird at all.

So like this is the setting up of a large major bureaucratic apparatus purely for the sake of dismantling other bureaucracies which to me begs the question; what do they do when they think they’ve succeeded? Does the department get dissolved?

Also, is Elon going to resign as CEO of Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter and his other concerns? Like he can probably stay majority shareholder but surely there’s a conflict of interest/probity issue with him being I charge of a government body AND three high profile private enterprises.
I gotta point out that Twitter is now a political arm of the government
 
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We are in the dumbest possible timeline
I gotta point out that Twitter is now a political arm of the government

Does anyone else feel like, just a clinging sick sense of low-level dread at all times now?
Like, the world has just effectively been taken over by the billionaire class. We are locked into riding out the oligarchic dystopia that apparently everyone voted for, for at least the next decade. This ends in bloody revolution or decades of servitude and misery (that is, If the changing climate extremes of the earth allow us decades of viable agriculture to support 9 billion serfs.)

Other pertinent words to look up definitions of for fun and elucidation that will result in crushing depression, are corporatocracy, plutocracy, fascism, and kakistocracy.
 

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... what's the remaining 3.6%? Surprise Jeb takeover?
Trump is assassinated and we get Vance.

Bill Text: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/9495/text

but surely there’s a conflict of interest/probity issue with him being I charge of a government body AND three high profile private enterprises.
Not just three high profile private enterprises, but at least two of those made significant amount of money from government contracts and subsidies. He's there so the other guy doesn't cut down on his government paydays in the name of efficiency.

I gotta point out that Twitter is now a political arm of the government
Never understood why government stayed on Twitter to begin with. It feels like if the government wanted a social media presence they should be hosting an instance of one of the federated FOSS options like Mastodon and mandating it be used for any kind of official social media statements. Not least because they would then have the power to archive their own instance (and thus government communications), and so long as the instance federates freely it can be seen and interacted with by all other instances. It's noteworthy that the other Twitter-alikes to have popped up (like Gab, Threads, and Truth Social) run on essentially a modified version of Mastodon with federation disabled, so it's up to the task.

Obviously not going to change now, because that would be less good for the Great Elon Musk, DOGE. Just not sure why we hadn't got there beforehand.