US 2024 Presidential Election

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He might live long enough for Trump to lock him up for something, which has a certain appeal.
True but unfortunately Trump belongs right next to Biden in that Hell Chamber (except Trump has a 24/7 newsreel about how everyone hates him and he cheated at golf while a devil smacks him in the back with a 7 iron every so often)
 
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Biden is shit regardless of what he does
I suppose I should give you props about admitting your opinion wouldn't change no matter what he would or wouldn't do. Maybe.

All I'm saying is Democrats can't have it both ways. So either they're all liars and don't actually believe Trump is going to be the end of The United States and Democracy as we know it OR they're escorting Hitler 2.0 into the White House, hands extended with a big ol smile on their faces ready to do everything they possibly can to make sure Hitler 2.0 has an easy and smooth transition into power.
Then again you also can't be the pro democracy candidate and then throw a gigantic hissyfit when the electorate is dumb enough to elect some criminal nutter. And as I said you'd probably have made that argument if Biden had refused to aid in the transition. Which you also kinda admitted just now.
 

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All I'm saying is Democrats can't have it both ways. So either they're all liars and don't actually believe Trump is going to be the end of The United States and Democracy as we know it OR they're escorting Hitler 2.0 into the White House, hands extended with a big ol smile on their faces ready to do everything they possibly can to make sure Hitler 2.0 has an easy and smooth transition into power.
One can believe he's a threat to democracy, and also not want to make an empty gesture that would only serve to empower him. Hell, if one thinks he's a threat to democracy, that's every reason not to.

Throwing a childish shitfit at the handover would help Trump. Not present an obstacle.
 
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None of the Democratic politicians ever seriously thought of Trump as a threat to democracy. They were lying for votes. The argument is moot.
 
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None of the Democratic politicians ever seriously thought of Trump as a threat to democracy. They were lying for votes. The argument is moot.
Didn't take long for you to break out the revisionist history. How long before you're trying to make us believe that they were heroes protecting the government from evil immigrants who were storming Congress to forcibly institute Sharia law or something?
 

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Didn't take long for you to break out the revisionist history. How long before you're trying to make us believe that they were heroes protecting the government from evil immigrants who were storming Congress to forcibly institute Sharia law or something?
Are you doing parody on purpose or by accident? Your example of a ridiculous claim is pretty much perfectly on par with the idea that a mob of unarmed rioters fewer in number than the people who work in just the US Capitol building were capable of overthrowing the entire government.
 

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Either Joe Biden's policies or Donald Trump's policies will leave the US without superpower status in our lifetimes and reduce our standard of living. It's just Biden delays it, and Trump tries to get it over with, but somehow won't be able to due to his inexperienced cabinet picks.

If it were just China and the US fighting this Cold War II, China would be winning. But because of liberal delusions of we are the West vs. we are a country, liberals delude themselves into thinking we are winning. South Korea is busy with North Korea, which, by the way, sends troops and gives away howitzer rounds to Russia. Meanwhile, Japan, which has a declining population and could face Chinese inclusions on their islands themselves, is increasingly being asked to defend Taiwan from the US who may not even get involved depending on a few thousand votes in 3 Rust Belt states.

The Europeans are in an even worse condition. Europe underinvests in Africa vs China. It's like the saying goes: whenever the UK comes to an African country, they get a lecture; when the Chinese go there, they get a new hospital. And they have underinvested in emerging technologies and even in their defense. 500 million Europeans (including the UK) are being asked to be defended by 345 million Americans who also patrol the world's oceans against 160 million Russians and Belarusians in their own backyard. And yes, Europe lacks the resources of the Western Hemisphere or Asia, but they have the troops and the know-how. Also, their population is declining.

In fact, I am shocked. It shouldn't be China or the US who are leaders in funding R&D in space; it should be resource-unlucky Europe. But here we are. Also, Ukraine invaded Russia, and no nukes are flying. We have sent Ukraine almost everything but nukes and high-budget items (5 Gen and 4.5 Gen fighters, nuclear subs, etc.), and no nukes are flying.

The situation with Australia is even more funny. The Australians are being asked to man nuclear-attack submarines and a bigger navy. But U-boat operations didn't work in World War 2, and they won't work here. It doesn't matter how many Chinese cargo ships you sink; there will always be more.

The superpower status of the US benefits the US mainly through better and cheaper products and immigrants coming over. If we see supply chains cut, say China blocks Taiwan (no more 5nm and smaller chips), Russia stops Ukrainian fertilizer exports, and North Korea nukes Seoul (no more cheap tech, cars, etc.) Inflation will be the least of our worries. Oh, and a portion of the world straight-up starves.
 

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Because he was pardoned by Gerald Ford.
Why didn't Nixon get arrested BEFORE that when he was president and caught red handed? If there was ever a time a president would've been arrested for super obvious crime, it would've been Nixon and that didn't happen.

Why was he pardoned?
There was plenty of time to arrest him. Arresting is just charging someone and taking them into custody.

Then again you also can't be the pro democracy candidate and then throw a gigantic hissyfit when the electorate is dumb enough to elect some criminal nutter. And as I said you'd probably have made that argument if Biden had refused to aid in the transition. Which you also kinda admitted just now.
Uhh, RussiaGate hissyfit that lasted 3 years and then they removed Trump from the ballot this year. They also removed JFK Jr from ballots. Now, they are talking about censoring social media because the election didn't go their way.

None of the Democratic politicians ever seriously thought of Trump as a threat to democracy. They were lying for votes. The argument is moot.
The fact that other democrats are clearly positioning themselves for 2028 is super obvious that they don't believe the threat to democracy narrative.
 

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Honestly, Trump will soon control the last superpower with both chambers and a stacked supreme court.

I expect a lot of people in the US and also outside to just hide their disgust to not provoke him and his rabid fanbase in the hope he rampages elsewhere.
 

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Oh good, Trump has named known pedophile child sex trafficker Matt Gaetz for attorney general.

Who are we going to get heading up the FBI? David DePepe?
 

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Why didn't Nixon get arrested BEFORE that when he was president and caught red handed? If there was ever a time a president would've been arrested for super obvious crime, it would've been Nixon and that didn't happen.


There was plenty of time to arrest him. Arresting is just charging someone and taking them into custody.


Uhh, RussiaGate hissyfit that lasted 3 years and then they removed Trump from the ballot this year. They also removed JFK Jr from ballots. Now, they are talking about censoring social media because the election didn't go their way.


The fact that other democrats are clearly positioning themselves for 2028 is super obvious that they don't believe the threat to democracy narrative.
Not necessarily. They could think that while there is a threat, it is inconclusive whether it will manifest in such a way that there are no more elections. A bunch of other things make it pretty obvious, though-- or they make it obvious that they don't care either way.

America; a country so bereft of original ideas they did an english speaking remake of Nazi Germany.
Nazi Germany was copying the United States of America in the first place. This is just retro.
 

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Oh good, Trump has named known pedophile child sex trafficker Matt Gaetz for attorney general.

Who are we going to get heading up the FBI? David DePepe?
It is wild to me how willing people are to believe nonsense that breaks against their political opponents. Hillary Clinton haphazardly calls Tulsi Gabbard a Russian asset, and reddit goes into full Boston marathon bombing mode to find the evidence for why that's true. An admitted sex predator takes a sweet plea deal offering testimony on Matt Gaetz, and after a long investigation turns up no other evidence Gaetz was involved, leaving them with only an unreliable witness as evidence, they drop the investigation, and that's enough to justify the title "known pedophile child sex trafficker".
 

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Why didn't Nixon get arrested BEFORE that when he was president and caught red handed? If there was ever a time a president would've been arrested for super obvious crime, it would've been Nixon and that didn't happen.
Because he resigned before impeachment proceedings could conclude, after which he was pardoned.
 

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It is wild to me how willing people are to believe nonsense that breaks against their political opponents.
Says the man who blithely assumes doctors were lying when they declined to carry out a procedure out of concern they might breach abortion laws.

Maybe remove that plank from your own eye before you pick the speck out of other people's, because sure as shit you are as bad as anyone you care to criticise for how you decide credibility.