US 2024 Presidential Election
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Can they perhaps revolt a little harder? Like dragging the traitors out in handcuffs and jailing them?
No: you said "at maximum" he could get manslaughter, after a dozen or so post about how the victim brought it on herself.
In that same video:
Y'all are gonna wanna hear this: the reason Trump and his rich cronies want Greenland for their resources and minerals. A lot of the tech bros are using AI to search for minerals, which is why they want it. They want their own little island with no rules and no borders. That's why they're so obsessed with. That said, Europe and the world is fighting back.
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I'm rapidly becoming not very unsympathetic to the Roman way of dealing with treasonus oligharchs.
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If you want to usefully assess how dangerous ICE is, you probably want deaths per unit time people have spent in ICE custody: call it a "detention year". So for instance in 2024 ICE had on average around 40,000 people detained each day, equivalent to detaining 40,000 people for one year, so 40,000 detention years.
In 2025, the amount detained per day steadily rises from 40k to 60k, so call it an average of 50k, or 50,000 detention years. This means that the total amount of time people spent in ICE detention went up only 20%. This would also suggest a very dramatic fall in the number of days that people spent in ICE custody. Therefore, an increase in the number dying over 20% from 2024 to 2025 could be a matter of substantial concern.
I'm not requesting research by necessity; polling could suffice. Or are you saying that your source is "I've talked to people. Trust me."?
A combination of that and that he made it the fuck up.
Citizens are rising up. ICE has been warned.
Not that I don't think Ice deserves whatever an angry mob throws at them, but angry citizens rising up against armed brownshirts does lead to the risk of innocent people getting hurt. The brownshirts already showed that just being non violently disagreeing with them might cause them to murder you.
Aside from people getting hurt it might also not be smart tactically since if a brownshirt gets bruised then Trump will likely abuse his power to escalate the situation against the public.
People can only take so much abuse. Responsible people in power should get off their butts, and arrest these gestapo soldiers and the man leading the charge. That means you Democrats! Step the fuck up! Trump hates anyone that's not in his special little club. The biatch gets mad at anything.
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Ever wonder how easy it is to be recruited by ICE?
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You’ve Heard About Who ICE Is Recruiting. The Truth Is Far Worse. I’m the Proof.
What happens when you do minimal screening before hiring agents, arming them, and sending them into the streets? We're all finding out.
And if those guns and badges happen to be held by rapists, pedophiles, white supremacists or murderers... well, you make sacrifices to "defend the homeland", I suppose.
I have now had the time to give this the effort I feel it deserves. I pulled data from here: https://tracreports.org/immigration/detentionstats/pop_agen_table.html
Reporting periods are approximately 2 weeks, but there are occasional gaps in the data and a few oddly sized periods, so I multiplied each reported stat by the number of days since the previous entry (and extended the last number a month since 2025 is incomplete data still), summed the data by year, converted from days to years, and compared to the death counts from the Guardian article originally linked here and got this:
2021 | 2022 | 2023 | 2024 | 2025 | |
| Total Detainee Years | 19658.83 | 23673.36 | 31617.21 | 37553.26 | 54999.38 |
| Deaths | 5 | 3 | 7 | 11 | 32 |
| Deaths Per 100,000 | 25.43386 | 12.67247 | 22.13984 | 29.29173 | 58.18248 |
A point in ICE's favor that I'm not going to leave unsaid, even 58 per 100,000 is still substantially safer than national averages, even comparing only to the likely age groups. People are safer in ICE custody than not, a result I reiterate is predictable to any rational person.
That being said, your approach is fruitful, and with the most granular data I found does seem to imply a doubling of fatality rate (though still not worse than the previous 4 years combined), which as you say could be a matter of substantial concern. It could be violent interactions from ICE, or it could be increased willingness to detain people in older age groups more likely to have significant health problems leading to death, or a number of other factors all worth investigating.
Edit: With death totals that low on an issue of this much national interest, I am hoping there's potential to see causes even in publicly available information, so I'm over at this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deaths_in_ICE_detention. I promise, I will not let it color my whole perspective here, but I definitely thought "well that doesn't count" when reading "Norlan Guzman-Fuentes and Miguel Angel Garcia-Hernandez died after they were shot by a sniper while in ICE custody", cause you can't really blame ICE practices for a nutjob shooting them while trying to attack ICE.
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Joe Rogan has critisized ICE for being brownshirts. That's weird considering he was the rat who abused his platform to boost Trump. He shouldn't now be able to pretend he has a problem with far right government action. When abusing his platform to boost Trump he knew exactly what would happen.
In both of Trump's terms a lot of people have looked around what they've eagerly contributed to and wondered how it came to this.
