US lawmakers introduce bill to ban TikTok

[Chimpzy]

So the Tiktok ban has taken effect. Opening the ap now shows this message in the US.



Interestingly, there seems to be some collateral. Probably because Marvel Snap is published by Nuverse, which is a subsidiary of Bytedance, the owner of Tiktok.

 

[Hades]

I see it as a hopeful first step. Not for the US, but for Europe. It banning social media websites hosted by ''enemies'' is normal, then maybe Europe can go ban twitter and facebook which are hosted by Europe's actual enemies.


I don't think that will happen, but this at least sets a precedent for it being able to happen.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Tell me. What's their first response to any judge making a ruling they don't like, or any journalist writing an article they don't like. What is their opinion of the other political parties or situations where parliament doesn't go along with what (they claim) ''the people'' want.

Far right party after far right party always has the same response to these matters. That only they truly represent the people and that thus no other party except them does, that any judge who stands in their way is an enemy or a fake judge, and that any journalist that reports on their statements or misdeed is scum. Checks and balances so important to democracies is something they always oppose, and they seem to drift to the stance that any other party except them is illegitimate.

So that's the anti democratic part down.

As for authoritarianism. Well, being against free press and judicial oversight already strikes me as plenty authoritarian. And look what happens whenever they get into power. The press always gets chained up, judges get replaced by cronies and checks and balances get removed, with some far right governments going so far as to just jail or have their opposition murdered. Look at Russia, at Hungary, at Turkey and the others. Also they're all fervent admirers of how Putin strangled Russian democracy, with some Austrian demagogue nutcase even getting caught on camera bragging about how he wanted to have his party do the same in Austria.

Phoenixmgs really likes that though, therefor it isn't authoritarian. He thinks it and it is.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

I see it as a hopeful first step. Not for the US, but for Europe. It banning social media websites hosted by ''enemies'' is normal, then maybe Europe can go ban twitter and facebook which are hosted by Europe's actual enemies.


I don't think that will happen, but this at least sets a precedent for it being able to happen.

Wait, the US is an enemy to Europe but you demand the US protect Europe?

 

[Gergar12]

Well, it's banned time to use Rednote and Lemon8.

 

[Gergar12]

I see it as a hopeful first step. Not for the US, but for Europe. It banning social media websites hosted by ''enemies'' is normal, then maybe Europe can go ban twitter and facebook which are hosted by Europe's actual enemies.


I don't think that will happen, but this at least sets a precedent for it being able to happen.

I know, we are still likely to get Greenland somehow.

 

[Hades]

Wait, the US is an enemy to Europe but you demand the US protect Europe?

I refered to Musk and Zuckerberg there, them being the owners of those sites and open enemies of Europe. But the US president is our enemy too and given the US electorate was demented enough to allow that….

Also nice attempt at a “gatcha” but you know, the US not doing their duties as allies is one of the reasons they’re our enemies. As is lusting after our land, supporting our enemies and trying to cripple Europe through far right traitors.

 

[FakeSympathy]

TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users, thanking Trump

The company said in a statement that TikTok was coming back online in the U.S. after President-elect Donald Trump provided assurances to the company’s service providers.

www.nbcnews.com

Well it was nice while it lasted

 

[Chimpzy]

TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users, thanking Trump

The company said in a statement that TikTok was coming back online in the U.S. after President-elect Donald Trump provided assurances to the company’s service providers.

www.nbcnews.com

Well it was nice while it lasted

Bytedance thanking Trump for pulling its butt out of the fire is hilarious, considering it helped light that fire.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

I refered to Musk and Zuckerberg there, them being the owners of those sites and open enemies of Europe. But the US president is our enemy too and given the US electorate was demented enough to allow that….

Also nice attempt at a “gatcha” but you know, the US not doing their duties as allies is one of the reasons they’re our enemies. As is lusting after our land, supporting our enemies and trying to cripple Europe through far right traitors.

None of this stuff is true, Musk and Zuck aren't enemies to Europe, Trump isn't an enemy to Europe. You're just making up all these things in your head.

 

[Hades]

None of this stuff is true, Musk and Zuck aren't enemies to Europe, Trump isn't an enemy to Europe. You're just making up all these things in your head.

Trump has been very vocal about his disdain for Europe, and his foreign policy desire involves abandoning us to Russia. He's also anti EU because without it the US can dominate a crippled and divided continent. So yes. Enemy.
Musk is openly trying to get the far right and fascist into power in Europe. Obviously his disdain for the EU is for the same reason and goals as Trump. Enemy.
Zuckerberg meanwhile has openly stated he intends to team up with Trump to force their will on Europe and make it surrender its consumer protection. Enemy.

No really. Where is the making up? You think its just a funny coincidence oligarchs are somehow ideologically opposed to the concept of Europe having consumer protection, and that they just so coincidentally try to use their recources to force far right government into place to do away with that? That's kinda naive. And has it been Trump's evil twin which has been blatendly anti European his entire political career, and has been drooling over Putin for just as much time? Did that evil twin also talk about ''letting Putin do whatever the hell he wants?' to Europeans that don't meet his payment goals, goals he has already revealed to be completely arbitrarily and more of a pretext then a reason.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Trump has been very vocal about his disdain for Europe, and his foreign policy desire involves abandoning us to Russia. He's also anti EU because without it the US can dominate a crippled and divided continent. So yes. Enemy.
Musk is openly trying to get the far right and fascist into power in Europe. Obviously his disdain for the EU is for the same reason and goals as Trump. Enemy.
Zuckerberg meanwhile has openly stated he intends to team up with Trump to force their will on Europe and make it surrender its consumer protection. Enemy.

No really. Where is the making up? You think its just a funny coincidence oligarchs are somehow ideologically opposed to the concept of Europe having consumer protection, and that they just so coincidentally try to use their recources to force far right government into place to do away with that? That's kinda naive. And has it been Trump's evil twin which has been blatendly anti European his entire political career, and has been drooling over Putin for just as much time? Did that evil twin also talk about ''letting Putin do whatever the hell he wants?' to Europeans that don't meet his payment goals, goals he has already revealed to be completely arbitrarily and more of a pretext then a reason.

IIRC, the US has already approved $150+ billion in aid to Ukraine and only sent like $60 billion so far. What are you worried about? Why would Europe divide itself? There are no fascists trying to gain power in Europe... People in Europe could just not use Facebook if they want. Why would Europe let Zuck pressure them into removing EU protections? Just make your own social media platform. And, again, Russia is a joke of a military power.

 

[Gergar12]

Trump has been very vocal about his disdain for Europe, and his foreign policy desire involves abandoning us to Russia. He's also anti EU because without it the US can dominate a crippled and divided continent. So yes. Enemy.
Musk is openly trying to get the far right and fascist into power in Europe. Obviously his disdain for the EU is for the same reason and goals as Trump. Enemy.
Zuckerberg meanwhile has openly stated he intends to team up with Trump to force their will on Europe and make it surrender its consumer protection. Enemy.

No really. Where is the making up? You think its just a funny coincidence oligarchs are somehow ideologically opposed to the concept of Europe having consumer protection, and that they just so coincidentally try to use their recources to force far right government into place to do away with that? That's kinda naive. And has it been Trump's evil twin which has been blatendly anti European his entire political career, and has been drooling over Putin for just as much time? Did that evil twin also talk about ''letting Putin do whatever the hell he wants?' to Europeans that don't meet his payment goals, goals he has already revealed to be completely arbitrarily and more of a pretext then a reason.

Whose fault is that? You keep blaming Trump, but Trump didn't fail the EU, the EU failed the EU. The EU should have done more to improve its defenses, the EU should have done more against Russia, the EU should have stopped the brain drain to the US by offering better salaries, the EU should have had a common language or created a new one, the EU should simply rise to the challenge that China, the US, India, and even Russia has done in advocating, and pushing for its interests.

 

[Hades]

Why would Europe divide itself?

Seemingly because Brussels is ''icky'' or some sort nonsense. Fact is the far right are all vocally anti EU, All had plans of blowing it up and only put them in the fridge after Brexit temporarily spoiled the idea.

There are no fascists trying to gain power in Europe...

A far right party founded by SS members and which as been caught admitting on camera they'd like to turn Austria into a hellhole like Russia literally is delivering the Austrian chancellor right now. And Meloni, even if she's not been as bad as she could be does have ideological roots stemming all the way back to Mussolini, something she herself doesn't even deny. Your talking point it several years out of date.

 

[Gergar12]

Fuck they going to ax amendments. I didn't think they would go after the 22nd. Still not going to volunteer for the democrats even if I vote for them.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Seemingly because Brussels is ''icky'' or some sort nonsense. Fact is the far right are all vocally anti EU, All had plans of blowing it up and only put them in the fridge after Brexit temporarily spoiled the idea.



A far right party founded by SS members and which as been caught admitting on camera they'd like to turn Austria into a hellhole like Russia literally is delivering the Austrian chancellor right now. And Meloni, even if she's not been as bad as she could be does have ideological roots stemming all the way back to Mussolini, something she herself doesn't even deny. Your talking point it several years out of date.

Maybe if the EU stopped putting things in place people didn't like, it wouldn't be an issue. Just looking up Meloni and she's against the EU ban of gas cars in 2035, maybe don't pull BS like that to begin with.

Giorgia Meloni - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What in here is fascist? I don't see any of her political positions being fascist. Just because you don't like someone's positions doesn't make them fascist.

 

[Gergar12]

Increasingly common democrat L.


Trump and co. played them. Trump wanted to ban Tik Tok but didn't do it because of fear of backlash. Then he went on it, won more youth due to it, and then changed his mind before Biden, then was the reason it didn't get banned.

Biden and co, on the other hand, adopted the ban, didn't veto the Tik Tok ban bill by congress, and accepted it by SCOTUS both of whom are full of fossils who may be great lawyers but suck at everything else and thank god they have staffers who aren't as aggressive as republican staffers. He then joined Tik Tok after Trump, then took the fall for the ban.

And now the democrats in leadership are the ones who look like they tried to take away 150 million Americans' free speech rights and almost killed who knows how many small businesses. How fucking stupid are they, they are going to get a lot of dreamers deported not just because they lost the election, but because now Trump has even more political capital to spend.

 

[Chimpzy]

Emergency services receive calls from distraught TikTok fans - Dexerto

Multiple distressed TikTok fans have seemingly contacted 9-1-1 after the app was banned from the United States.

www.dexerto.com

The terminally online brain rot is strong there.

 

[Silvanus]

the current PM is Keir Starmer who is left

Lol.

 

[Seanchaidh]

Trump has been very vocal about his disdain for Europe, and his foreign policy desire involves abandoning us to Russia. He's also anti EU because without it the US can dominate a crippled and divided continent. So yes. Enemy.

US imperial overstretch has made its way into your brain.