US Seeks Extradition For UK Student's Copyright Violation

[thethingthatlurks]

I am so glad our government has its priorities set straight. After all, wasting time, money, and other resources on persecuting an international student via extradition is just what we need when we are almost bankrupt.

Go-go-gadget irony.

America's primary export is intellectual property. The rest of the world, especially Asia, regularly steals that IP. I'm not saying this is the reason why we're broke, but it's not unrelated. Our government's recent, severe crack-down on piracy is an attempt to repair our most important revenue stream.

You could certainly debate the wisdom of an economy that relies on IP, but that's another thread.

I don't think IP is the majority export in the sense you take it. Movies and music don't make nearly as much money as you might think, so I'd wager that patents are the big money maker for US companies. The same scenario would still be ridiculous, of course, if he had built some sort of iphone (just for sake of example) knock off and sold it for profit under the Apple label. You don't waste the time and energy to extradite somebody for a non-violent crime! I really hope somebody in the State Department gets fired over this gross misuse of time and money.

Also, ads instead of captcha? Come on, that's pushing it. There's this nifty little program we aren't supposed to be talking about, and I'm getting pretty damn close to using it...

 

[vxicepickxv]

I consider this an invasion not of the military kind but of a different kind.

I wouldn't want to invade, just visit(I am military though, so that is kind of amusing).

I think we would also be less inclined in Europe to do these things if we had any kind of service resembling Netflix or Hulu.

I don't doubt it at all. I wish we could get more of your shows over here though, it would be nice.

On another point we have our own copyright laws why do we need Americas? as far as i know he has not broken ours and can not be prosecuted for something that is not illegal or even given this ridiculously harsh sentence.

You don't need our copyright laws. I'm going to request on my end that this madness be stopped, and on your end that they refuse to extradite him. I see a blatantly terrible thing coming if England sends him over. If they do, it's going to get worse, because it's a precedent. If England says no, it sets a precedent that I would rather see. We as a country need to get ***** slapped around a few times by other countries. We forgot our place a member of the world stage, because we see ourselves as the star of the stage.

 

[TimeLord]

The US should stick their noses somewhere else. If the guy broke laws in the UK, he should be tried in a UK court, under UK law. The US can't just barge in and demand we hand over our people. Whether he has done something wrong or not!

I hate this world nowadays.
Where's a spaceship or TARDIS? I want to get off this stupid planet before the US try to get the UK to extradite me for saying something against them.

 

[snfonseka]

I don't support this extradite request from US. If he done anything illegal in UK then he should face a trial in UK.

 

[ExodusFlame]

Well by the logic the US government is using all those posting in this thread are going to be shipped to Texas and given the death penalty for this.

 

[Baradiel]

Sorry, but this is bullshit. The UK is already being America's little ***** on the political stage. The last thing I want to see is American laws having authority over the UK.

Sure, for serious crimes, I could understand. Drugs trafficking, or murder, they cause harm to people. But for this?

Christ, I could expect this sort of political control being used on a country thats been colonised,- sorry, liberated by America, but this is retarded. Plain and simple.

 

[Baradiel]

Really this just strikes me as yet another reason to avoid American internet hosting if you at all can.

Thats the thing: TV Shack wasn't hosted in the US. Last I heard the servers were in Sweden. I'm not familiar on the laws regarding 'piracy', but I wasn't aware the US had rights to the World Wide Web...

 

[Mantonio]

So... it's America overstepping it's boundaries again?

I'm reminded of when they tried to persecute the Pirate Bay people in Sweden. This will turn out just as badly for the US, I feel. It's not like they have a legal leg to stand on anyway.

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

So .... how does the US think they have the right to ask for the extradition of someone overseas when they committed a crime that broke domestic laws and is being punished for it? Besides, I wouldn't release prisoners into the 'care' of the US judicial system ... American prisons are hellholes and US DOCs treatment of prisoners is shocking at best <.<

 

[vxicepickxv]

Really this just strikes me as yet another reason to avoid American internet hosting if you at all can.

Thats the thing: TV Shack wasn't hosted in the US. Last I heard the servers were in Sweden. I'm not familiar on the laws regarding 'piracy', but I wasn't aware the US had rights to the World Wide Web...

That's where it gets touchy. For the most part, I don't have a problem with the US requesting for something that's covered as US intellectual property to be removed from a site anywhere in the world, BUT, I do have a problem with the US taking over domains outside of the country, and then treating the web hosts as if they were terrorists.

 

[Littlee300]

More of the USA trying to stick their nose in where it does not belong, and using the unfair a one way extradition act they have with us.

Can you care about what is right instead of who is right?

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This did nothing to stop torrenting advertisement as long as torrentz.com isn't planned to be next.

 

[Littlee300]

this is going to turn out to be one of those cases that makes or breaks more then a few weird kind of laws, assuming we get him

fuck off yank. if he is to be tried he will be tried in a british court by british people and with british laws. there is no 'we' about it he did nothing directly to the americans so why do they want to trie him.

You're grumpy old man personality amuses me. Although I do think UK deserves the right to make their own laws.

 

[vxicepickxv]

this is going to turn out to be one of those cases that makes or breaks more then a few weird kind of laws, assuming we get him

fuck off yank. if he is to be tried he will be tried in a british court by british people and with british laws. there is no 'we' about it he did nothing directly to the americans so why do they want to trie him.

I don't want him to end up in the States. I want him to stay in whichever UK country he's from, and not be handed over.

So... it's America overstepping it's boundaries again?

I'm reminded of when they tried to persecute the Pirate Bay people in Sweden. This will turn out just as badly for the US, I feel. It's not like they have a legal leg to stand on anyway.

apart from britian ashamedly being highly submisssive to the states.

I hope they don't send him over, because well, we already look like assholes for trying to get him. Say no and we're done. I want a good hard no from you guys. This is bullshit.

Well by the logic the US government is using all those posting in this thread are going to be shipped to Texas and given the death penalty for this.

i say bring it oh wait they still fry people dont they. barbarians

Texas probably wouldn't fry me. I mean I am government property and all that.

 

[cookyy2k]

Surely if they had linking to copyrighted material as a crime the first people to go after are google execs. Just go type any random copyrighted work into google followed by the word torrent and see how many links they provide. Except they know the sort of lawyers google can afford would bend them over and show em who's boss followed by president that it ain't illegal. They're going after the small fry because they can.

 

[vxicepickxv]

More of the USA trying to stick their nose in where it does not belong, and using the unfair a one way extradition act they have with us.

Can you care about what is right instead of who is right?

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This did nothing to stop torrenting advertisement as long as torrentz.com is planned to be next.

It also doesn't change the fact that using a bittorrent isn't illegal.

this is going to turn out to be one of those cases that makes or breaks more then a few weird kind of laws, assuming we get him

fuck off yank. if he is to be tried he will be tried in a british court by british people and with british laws. there is no 'we' about it he did nothing directly to the americans so why do they want to trie him.

You're grumpy old man personality amuses me. Although I do think UK deserves the right to make their own laws.

I glad you think a sovereign nation should be able to make their own laws, especially when their nation is a lot older than ours.

I also think in a case like this, they shouldn't follow our laws.

 

[SteewpidZombie]

The American government is trying hard to catch and put on trial someone who simply LINKED torrents for movies/television, yet they don't even lift a finger to try and catch people like LulzSec who could be classified as terrorists in their hacking of companies and government websites such as the CIA's website and their theft of information, emails, passwords, and ect.


(Sorry for the rant. If some of these people would stop counting their money and instead look around for once, I'm sure they'd notice all the more serious crimes that are being committed).