US Seeks Extradition For UK Student's Copyright Violation

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Littlee300

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olliefrom1990 said:
More of the USA trying to stick their nose in where it does not belong, and using the unfair a one way extradition act they have with us.
Can you care about what is right instead of who is right?

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plexxiss said:
Worgen said:
this is going to turn out to be one of those cases that makes or breaks more then a few weird kind of laws, assuming we get him
fuck off yank. if he is to be tried he will be tried in a british court by british people and with british laws. there is no 'we' about it he did nothing directly to the americans so why do they want to trie him.
You're grumpy old man personality amuses me. Although I do think UK deserves the right to make their own laws.
 

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plexxiss said:
Worgen said:
this is going to turn out to be one of those cases that makes or breaks more then a few weird kind of laws, assuming we get him
fuck off yank. if he is to be tried he will be tried in a british court by british people and with british laws. there is no 'we' about it he did nothing directly to the americans so why do they want to trie him.
I don't want him to end up in the States. I want him to stay in whichever UK country he's from, and not be handed over.

plexxiss said:
Mantonio said:
So... it's America overstepping it's boundaries again?

I'm reminded of when they tried to persecute the Pirate Bay people in Sweden. This will turn out just as badly for the US, I feel. It's not like they have a legal leg to stand on anyway.
apart from britian ashamedly being highly submisssive to the states.
I hope they don't send him over, because well, we already look like assholes for trying to get him. Say no and we're done. I want a good hard no from you guys. This is bullshit.

plexxiss said:
ExodusFlame said:
Well by the logic the US government is using all those posting in this thread are going to be shipped to Texas and given the death penalty for this.
i say bring it oh wait they still fry people dont they. barbarians
Texas probably wouldn't fry me. I mean I am government property and all that.
 

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Surely if they had linking to copyrighted material as a crime the first people to go after are google execs. Just go type any random copyrighted work into google followed by the word torrent and see how many links they provide. Except they know the sort of lawyers google can afford would bend them over and show em who's boss followed by president that it ain't illegal. They're going after the small fry because they can.
 

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Littlee300 said:
olliefrom1990 said:
More of the USA trying to stick their nose in where it does not belong, and using the unfair a one way extradition act they have with us.
Can you care about what is right instead of who is right?

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This did nothing to stop torrenting advertisement as long as torrentz.com is planned to be next.
It also doesn't change the fact that using a bittorrent isn't illegal.

Littlee300 said:
plexxiss said:
Worgen said:
this is going to turn out to be one of those cases that makes or breaks more then a few weird kind of laws, assuming we get him
fuck off yank. if he is to be tried he will be tried in a british court by british people and with british laws. there is no 'we' about it he did nothing directly to the americans so why do they want to trie him.
You're grumpy old man personality amuses me. Although I do think UK deserves the right to make their own laws.
I glad you think a sovereign nation should be able to make their own laws, especially when their nation is a lot older than ours.

I also think in a case like this, they shouldn't follow our laws.
 

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The American government is trying hard to catch and put on trial someone who simply LINKED torrents for movies/television, yet they don't even lift a finger to try and catch people like LulzSec who could be classified as terrorists in their hacking of companies and government websites such as the CIA's website and their theft of information, emails, passwords, and ect.


(Sorry for the rant. If some of these people would stop counting their money and instead look around for once, I'm sure they'd notice all the more serious crimes that are being committed).
 

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Sadly this moron is a student at my University. This makes us all look bad.

I say he should be deported. He willingly broke the law. Stole, and profitted from that stolen property. If the American Government don't get him, the companies that own all the copyrighted material will sue him back to the stone age.
 

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Truly-A-Lie said:
As someone who's used websites similar to that, I have one thing to say. Maybe, if we in the UK didn't have to wait until we were like 2 seasons behind to get certain shows, we wouldn't need illegal streams.
What's that? I couldn't hear you over the sound of me missing Doctor Who Series 5 because the Beeb decided to put it on BBCA instead of SyFy. Also, I think someone is playing a tiny violin.
 

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Looks to me like america has got power hungry, they have assassinated a dude in a far country and celebrate the kill then decide they are the law of the earth and wish to prosecute someone who isn't from their country and so isn't subject to its laws? Geez grow up.
 

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I hope my country fails hard smashing its face into a brick wall trying to get this guy. I remember when the majority of TV was free, and then when the internet came along it was glorious that I could watch my shows on my terms with having to worry about missing them and wondering when they would be on again.

Too many good sources that provide links to good and great shows are disappearing. I would pay for a membership to a sight that legally provides viewing of shows, if they had shows from back in the day. There is only a handful of shows today that are actually good enough to be on the air.

FoOd77 said:
mikozero said:
quit trolling FogHornG36

the BBC is the largest broadcaster in the world.
Now now, he said "of value" can't argue with him there! All that crap we get on BBC America is mindnumbingly stupid, especially "Doctor Who", EUUUUUGH!
Wow I hope that was said in jest, because seriously, the US is in a huge rut of awful television.

There really hasn't been much of a variety of shows in the US. As you might have already guessed, I am American. I use to be a huge television addict back in the day, but within the past five years my percentage of free time spent watching broadcast/cable television has dropped from 40% to around 2%.

There just isn't much fresh and fun television programs these days. Basically what is coming from American airwaves is, crime/cop drama, crime/cop drama, crime/cop drama with slight variation, crime/cop drama with slight variation, law drama, law drama, law drama, soap opera-like teen or adult drama, horribly unoriginal sitcom(multiply that my around 15 or so), reality shows(multiply that by like a few thousand).

Doctor Who is on the top of my list of shows that are almost always consistently good, getting on the list means the show only has one to two mediocre to bad episodes a season. This latest season of Doctor Who has been a doozy to wrap my head around, but it has been good.

Another show I watch from the BBC when it is in season, is Merlin. Merlin and Doctor Who and a few other shows are the reason I love the BBC so much, because it is producing all the great science fiction and fantasy shows that American television has been lacking far some time now. The best thing from the American area in that vein was Stargate, but Universe proved that North American writers don't understand the genre or the Stargate franchise anymore.

From the US, the only shows that I watch when they are in season, are Castle(which is breath of fresh air in the cop show department, another notch on Nathan Fillion's belt that shows how awesome he is).....well come to think of it Castle is the only one.

The stuff from the US that I watch, but not regularly, just whenever I get the chance on the internet, and they are of the reality vein, because as I have pointed out, writing of shows in the US has taken a huge nose dive: Pawn Stars, American Pickers, and Operation Repo(I just love the reaction from people on how they try and justify not having paid for their vehicles or the stories they make up to get out of losing them).

The stagnant nature of 99% of US television in the past few years, has forced me to go to the internet to watch awesome shows from the past and awesome shows from the past that I never got a chance to watch back then.
 

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JonnWood said:
Truly-A-Lie said:
As someone who's used websites similar to that, I have one thing to say. Maybe, if we in the UK didn't have to wait until we were like 2 seasons behind to get certain shows, we wouldn't need illegal streams.
What's that? I couldn't hear you over the sound of me missing Doctor Who Series 5 because the Beeb decided to put it on BBCA instead of SyFy. Also, I think someone is playing a tiny violin.
With how bad SyFy has been with shows in the past few years, I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually SyFy's decision to not purchase the right to air new Doctor Who anymore. SyFy probably didn't want its "original" stuff to look bad by airing the awesomeness of Doctor Who along with it.
 

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If it were up to me I'd promptly tell those US government dickheads to go fuck themselves.
This just goes to show how much companies are paying politicians to make an issue out of this.
 

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Baresark said:
I believe that the statistic is something like the US makes up for 4.5% of global population, but 25% of global prison population.
I can believe that. I was speaking specifically about America though. Not that it makes it any better. It certainly does not.

vxicepickxv said:
Baresark said:
Representation is hard when you can't afford a senator.

I'd say we need to burn it down and start again, but nobody can afford fire anymore.
This is also true. I was just reading an article that pointed out what is called the "cold war consensus", is at an end because the military spending has bankrupted America. Meh, it's better if we have to start new again, clearly this has gotten out of hand. America is going out like punks, meaning the same way the Soviets went down. Go ahead, ask me what killed communism. :p
 

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Sonic Doctor said:
JonnWood said:
Truly-A-Lie said:
As someone who's used websites similar to that, I have one thing to say. Maybe, if we in the UK didn't have to wait until we were like 2 seasons behind to get certain shows, we wouldn't need illegal streams.
What's that? I couldn't hear you over the sound of me missing Doctor Who Series 5 because the Beeb decided to put it on BBCA instead of SyFy. Also, I think someone is playing a tiny violin.
With how bad SyFy has been with shows in the past few years, I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually SyFy's decision to not purchase the right to air new Doctor Who anymore. SyFy probably didn't want its "original" stuff to look bad by airing the awesomeness of Doctor Who along with it.
The owner of SyFy is actually trying to lose money on the channel for however long it takes to be able to cancel it, because she doesn't like the sci-fi genre, but can't sell it because it's tied to another channel for sales purposes.
 

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I did say he shouldn't be charged, what should have happend, is he should have been notified, and told to stop, and then had his web site taken down if he didn't comply, in the end, it comes down to he is showing were to get something illegal.

Also,you can say that the us doesn't produce any tv or movies of value, but their must be a reason why so much of it is translated and aired in so much the rest of the world.
South Park, Family guy, Grey's Anatomy, True Blood, How I met Your mother, Glee, Law & Order, CSI, Breaking Bad, Two and a Half Men, The Simpsons, 24, Friends, Lost, Heros, The Walking dead, Buffy the Vampire slayer, Deadliest Catch, Scrubs,Sex and the City, That '70s Show, Dexter, Seinfeld, House.

Just a few, and im not even going into movies, Not saying i have never seen anything good on BBC but to be fair, We have Hollywood, any that's were it all comes from.
 

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Do I think it wrong for the states to punish him? No. Do I think how is wrong? Yes.
Jail time seems extreme for any copyright infringement, and it seems a bigger issue to bring him here. Im sure a satilite uplink trial could be done honestly.
 

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vxicepickxv said:
Sonic Doctor said:
With how bad SyFy has been with shows in the past few years, I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually SyFy's decision to not purchase the right to air new Doctor Who anymore. SyFy probably didn't want its "original" stuff to look bad by airing the awesomeness of Doctor Who along with it.
The owner of SyFy is actually trying to lose money on the channel for however long it takes to be able to cancel it, because she doesn't like the sci-fi genre, but can't sell it because it's tied to another channel for sales purposes.
Has this person always been the owner of the channel, or did she buy the channel for some reason(was that when it changed from Sci-Fi to SyFy)?

If she doesn't like the genre, why did she buy the channel, or was it the other channel you mentioned is why she bought it? Did she buy the channel to run it into the ground, because she has a vendetta against the genre? Because, it is moronic for her to buy ownership of a channel that has to do with a genre that she doesn't like.

What is this channel you speak of that is tied to SyFy?

I need to look more into this. Something tells me she is the reason Stargate Atlantis got canceled, even though it was popular, and why Stargate Universe was written like a horrible soap opera instead of like a classic Stargate science fiction.