ValiDate, a Dating Sim

[Specter Von Baren]

Well I don't think this person is anyone worth listening to as any kind of authority on anything, certainly not Japanese culture given the comments I've been reading from other Japanese people about Ghosts of Tsushima. They also "clapped" or whatever, stuff like this.

The Hidden White Privilege of ‘Adulting’

Some of us didn’t have the luxury of choosing to learn life skills

zora.medium.com

But if you’re not White or male, basic tasks and survival skills are likely not anything new to you. If you’re a Black woman, you’ve probably been adulting since kindergarten.

So yeah, not someone worth listening to given what they wrote and consider good writing.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

For fucks sake, it's somebody with a take on a video game you don't like.
Can we not go GamerGate2 on this?

Whispers
Abby in the Last of Us Part II is not a good female character nor is she realistic

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Whispers
Abby in the Last of Us Part II is not a good female character nor is she realistic

*Sigh*
All right, I'll bite: how the ever living fuck does Abby from The Last of Us Part II factor into a take from a Japanese person about Ghosts of Tsushima and how it does/does not emulate Akira Kurosawa?
Is it one of those bullshit false dichotomies ala "Captain Marvel vs Alita: Battle Angel"?
"Somebody criticized Ghosts of Tsushima therefore they like TLOU2 therefore I can insult them by not liking a thing from TLOU2, take that?"

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Well I don't think this person is anyone worth listening to as any kind of authority on anything, certainly not Japanese culture given the comments I've been reading from other Japanese people about Ghosts of Tsushima. They also "clapped" or whatever, stuff like this.

The Hidden White Privilege of ‘Adulting’

Some of us didn’t have the luxury of choosing to learn life skills

zora.medium.com

So yeah, not someone worth listening to given what they wrote and consider good writing.

There were 4K likes on that article. How would you even know that?

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

*Sigh*
All right, I'll bite: how the ever living fuck does Abby from The Last of Us Part II factor into a take from a Japanese person about Ghosts of Tsushima and how it does/does not emulate Akira Kurosawa?
Is it one of those bullshit false dichotomies ala "Captain Marvel vs Alita: Battle Angel"?
"Somebody criticized Ghosts of Tsushima therefore they like TLOU2 therefore I can insult them by not liking a thing from TLOU2, take that?"

Don't blame me because TLOU2 stans have been leaving negative reviews on Ghost of Tsushima lol

 

[BrawlMan]

Abby in the Last of Us Part II is not a good female character nor is she realistic

So is whopping 95% of video game protagonists, male or female. What makes her so special? Other than her being unintentionally unsympathetic.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

So is whopping 95% of video game protagonists, male or female. What makes her so special? Other than her being unintentionally unsympathetic.

It's just a claim that really seems to get people strongly defending her and has seen a few publications to to dunk on "The Gamers" for daring to suggest she's not realistic that lol

 

[BrawlMan]

It's just a claim that really seems to get people strongly defending her and has seen a few publications to to dunk on "The Gamers" for daring to suggest she's not realistic that lol

Got it.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Don't blame me because TLOU2 stans have been leaving negative reviews on Ghost of Tsushima lol

That has what, exactly, to do with our already very off topic conversation about the historical revisionism of samurai in Ghosts of Tsushima?
I mean, this is the same take other people on this forum have already had in the Ghosts of Tsushima thread, but it's stuck a bug up your ass so hard in this thread about an indie VN that you're bringing in an entirely different video game for...reasons?

 

[BrawlMan]

That has what, exactly, to do with our already very off topic conversation about the historical revisionism of samurai in Ghosts of Tsushima?
I mean, this is the same take other people on this forum have already had in the Ghosts of Tsushima thread, but it's stuck a bug up your ass so hard in this thread about an indie VN that you're bringing in an entirely different video game for...reasons?

This is why I set up guidelines or warnings on the topics I create to not stray too much off topic.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

That has what, exactly, to do with our already very off topic conversation about the historical revisionism of samurai in Ghosts of Tsushima?
I mean, this is the same take other people on this forum have already had in the Ghosts of Tsushima thread, but it's stuck a bug up your ass so hard in this thread about an indie VN that you're bringing in an entirely different video game for...reasons?

Was the argument ever made that Ghost of Tsushima was historically accurate to begin with?

 

[Specter Von Baren]

There were 4K likes on that article. How would you even know that?

You mean that they clapped it?

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Was the argument ever made that Ghost of Tsushima was historically accurate to begin with?

I don't know, I haven't played TLOU2, which is apparently relevant. Of course, that only came up because apparently Polygon having an article talking about the influence of Kurosawa's aesthetics vs Kurosaw's politics relevant to Ghosts of Tsushima and the myth of historical Bushido regarding Japanese ultranationalists Is somehow proof of SJWs having won the culture war, which is proof that...people creating hours of content about "SJWs not liking things" about a handful of tweets with very little interaction isn't silly and is proof that SJWs have taken over video games, which means that this indie VN is bad.

You mean that they clapped it?

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I hadn't thought about going to their writer's profile to look up their likes.
Mostly because who gives a shit, but still.

 

[Specter Von Baren]

I don't know, I haven't played TLOU2, which is apparently relevant. Of course, that only came up because apparently Polygon having an article talking about the influence of Kurosawa's aesthetics vs Kurosaw's politics relevant to Ghosts of Tsushima and the myth of historical Bushido regarding Japanese ultranationalists Is somehow proof of SJWs having won the culture war, which is proof that...people creating hours of content about "SJWs not liking things" about a handful of tweets with very little interaction isn't silly and is proof that SJWs have taken over video games, which means that this indie VN is bad.
I hadn't thought about going to their writer's profile to look up their likes.
Mostly because who gives a shit, but still.

I was looking for more articles written by them and then saw "claps" and had no idea what that was so I checked it out, give me a freaking break.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

I don't know, I haven't played TLOU2, which is apparently relevant.

Somewhat when the arguments defending Abby is she's totally realistic according to them because this one Body builder lady looked like her for 1 photoshoot once

Of course, that only came up because apparently Polygon having an article talking about the influence of Kurosawa's aesthetics vs Kurosaw's politics relevant to Ghosts of Tsushima and the myth of historical Bushido regarding Japanese ultranationalists Is somehow proof of SJWs having won the culture war, which is proof that...people creating hours of content about "SJWs not liking things" about a handful of tweets with very little interaction isn't silly and is proof that SJWs have taken over video games, which means that this indie VN is bad.

Which considering we're having to have the argument when:

1) No-one has claimed the game is historically accurate

and

2) This is the equivalent of having to argue that no Lord of the Rings isn't pro white supremacy just because some groups (against the stated claims of the author) chose to use the books as propaganda to support their white supremacist beliefs........That shouldn't have to be an argument we're having anymore than the argument that because a Killer played COD at some point COD is the problem should be an argument anymore.

I hadn't thought about going to their writer's profile to look up their likes.
Mostly because who gives a shit, but still.

There were 4K likes on that article. How would you even know that?

But you did go and check the likes (well claps as they call them on Medium)

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Somewhat when the arguments defending Abby is she's totally realistic according to them because this one Body builder lady looked like her for 1 photoshoot once

Were they having those arguments in this thread for some reason, in a way that relates to anything at all?

Which considering we're having to have the argument when:

1) No-one has claimed the game is historically accurate

and

2) This is the equivalent of having to argue that no Lord of the Rings isn't pro white supremacy just because some groups (against the stated claims of the author) chose to use the books as propaganda to support their white supremacist beliefs........That shouldn't have to be an argument we're having anymore than the argument that because a Killer played COD at some point COD is the problem should be an argument anymore.

Then go argue that in the Ghosts of Tsushima thread.
The only reason this article was brought up in this thread was as a pathetic attempt to prove that "SJWs" were mainstream because a video game site ran an opinion piece about a video game.

But you did go and check the likes (well claps as they call them on Medium)

Yes, I clicked on the provided link to read the article. Do you not read articles before discussing them?

 

[CriticalGaming]

Man this thread is all over the damn place. I just read through the last three pages and nobody seems to even be talking about Vali-date anymore.

Which by the way thats a name subtle way to ping the attention of the trans community since they claim to have to fight for Validation. It's almost like the game is whale calling for a certain group of people.

The question really is, why is there even 11 pages of nonsense going on about a game that doesnt care about 99% of the video game audience?

Just roll your eyes and lets move on, because these debates never go anywhere and never change anyones mind.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Were they having those arguments in this thread for some reason, in a way that relates to anything at all?

Well it relates somewhat back to the idea of realistic vs unrealistic characters designs where Abby is unrealistic but will claimed to no be because people like her but Quiet who was based on an actual model (Abby is actually 3 women combined and that's not a joke) with her being based upon a standard that even professional women bodybuilders don't maintain. that's a competition look. but they'll defend Abby as realistic.

Then go argue that in the Ghosts of Tsushima thread.
The only reason this article was brought up in this thread was as a pathetic attempt to prove that "SJWs" were mainstream because a video game site ran an opinion piece about a video game.

A piece which makes 0 sense as you've shown that no-one claimed it was realistic and certain people were very much determined to try and take it down because I don't know they think it's a threat to The Last of US Part II's sales or something....

Yes, I clicked on the provided link to read the article. Do you not read articles before discussing them?

I do, I find it odd the thing you brought up was the number of claps.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Well it relates somewhat back to the idea of realistic vs unrealistic characters designs where Abby is unrealistic but will claimed to no be because people like her but Quiet who was based on an actual model (Abby is actually 3 women combined and that's not a joke) with her being based upon a standard that even professional women bodybuilders don't maintain. that's a competition look. but they'll defend Abby as realistic.

Literally nobody was talking about that in this thread

A piece which makes 0 sense as you've shown that no-one claimed it was realistic and certain people were very much determined to try and take it down because I don't know they think it's a threat to The Last of US Part II's sales or something....

The article never claims Ghosts of Tsushima was trying to be realistic and there is zero connection to TLOU2, an invention about the author you seem to be making up whole cloth for some unfathomable reason

I do, I find it odd the thing you brought up was the number of claps.

I didn't know how the other poster knew that the author liked the article and thought they'd scrolled down the long list of likes to find the name.

 

[BrawlMan]

Earth to @TheMysteriousGX & @Dwarvenhobble! You do know that is this was about a crappy dating sim, right? Just checking.