Just imagine, if this was the Dark Ages, Valve would be the good, heroic and beloved king while EA would be the ugly, scheming vizier.
Valve Counters EA's Shots at Steam
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My brief experience with this stems from League of legends, I had decided when I first started I would never spend any money on the game, then a skin I reallllllly like went on sale half price so I decided to dump in 10 bucks and buy the skin on sale, I then had half of enough for another skin in RP so I spent another 5 bucks and bought a full price skin, overall I spent 15 dollars where I would have spent none if that initial skin hadn't gone on sale. Then a month later they did an 80% sale on a bunch of skins so I dumped in 30 bucks and purchased like 10 of em then had enough left over for another half a skin so I waited until one I liked went on sale.
Overall I spent 45$ on a free game entirely because of the sales prices, I think it was a good call on their part, plus after I started using the system in order to take part in the limited time sales I became more comfortable with it, the first time around it was kind of stressful typing down all that personal information and shit but second time about I just clicked a button and got my stuff, once I was used to this system I ended up spending another 20 bucks on skins and characters that had been recently released at full price.
From that little bit of hindsight on my prior experiences with it I would say sales are a great way to increase your customer base as well as encourage previous buyers to continue, I've spent 65$ on a free game where as I refuse to spend 60$ on a triple A game, almost entirely because of sales. I mean I guess EAs logic would work if NO ONE ever had sales so you never had to compete with them but that's simply not the case.
Overall I spent 45$ on a free game entirely because of the sales prices, I think it was a good call on their part, plus after I started using the system in order to take part in the limited time sales I became more comfortable with it, the first time around it was kind of stressful typing down all that personal information and shit but second time about I just clicked a button and got my stuff, once I was used to this system I ended up spending another 20 bucks on skins and characters that had been recently released at full price.
From that little bit of hindsight on my prior experiences with it I would say sales are a great way to increase your customer base as well as encourage previous buyers to continue, I've spent 65$ on a free game where as I refuse to spend 60$ on a triple A game, almost entirely because of sales. I mean I guess EAs logic would work if NO ONE ever had sales so you never had to compete with them but that's simply not the case.
There are good points here, but... the big issue is, you don't enter into a slap-fight with the schoolyard bully. It doesn't matter what he said about your momma. Humouring him isn't going to make him back off and recognize your good qualities, it'll only make him come back harder. It's what he does. He doesn't have anything better to do.
When the teacher comes around, they're not going to care who started it. You'll both end up looking like petty children.
In other news, I don't care if it's the popular thing to do; I'll stop hating EA when it miraculously stops being a cautionary tale about the pursuit of money over customers and restores the countless companies it has destroyed. Valve isn't sinless, but putting their groundbreaking service next to EA's late-to-the-party shameless cash-in service is just too easy.
When the teacher comes around, they're not going to care who started it. You'll both end up looking like petty children.
In other news, I don't care if it's the popular thing to do; I'll stop hating EA when it miraculously stops being a cautionary tale about the pursuit of money over customers and restores the countless companies it has destroyed. Valve isn't sinless, but putting their groundbreaking service next to EA's late-to-the-party shameless cash-in service is just too easy.
All Steam really had to do was point at their profit margins as a comeback but yeah all that stuff too. In fact, all that stuff on top of what Shamus Young has been saying for ages now.
Also EA is hilariously villain like, its almost contrived.
I mean, its just so funny to see them fuming away at origin angrily complaining about Steam getting all the money even though they keep treating their customers well. Its like they're saying "How are they doing it? They aren't extorting or overcharging their customers at all! Do they WANT their users to expect good things from them?!".
Also EA is hilariously villain like, its almost contrived.
I mean, its just so funny to see them fuming away at origin angrily complaining about Steam getting all the money even though they keep treating their customers well. Its like they're saying "How are they doing it? They aren't extorting or overcharging their customers at all! Do they WANT their users to expect good things from them?!".
Huh. Valve could have responded by faxing them a picture of Gabe Newell's ass and we would probably support them. They didn't need to bother coming up with a response to EA's attack.
Seeing as i just finally got around to buying Mass Effect 2 , and only bought it because it was on sale at Steam, I don't think EA knows what they are talking about. I buy most of my games on sale, whether on Steam, at GoG, or at the local game shop.
And the reason I never pay full price for games? DRM
And the reason I never pay full price for games? DRM
If déjà vu is a glitch in the Matrix, the Matrix must have had Superman 64's quality assurance team.
Seriously, this the the how-manyth repetition of that topic and almost identical headline?
Seriously, this the the how-manyth repetition of that topic and almost identical headline?
Let's face it, the attitude they approached the sales with said it all. "Valve are stupid because they put games on sale. We're better than them because we'll never do that. Have fun using our service, guys, you'll never get cheap games!"uncanny474 said:
Fucking idiots. EA has never been good with PR and it's user base hates them, they love the games but hate EA. Valve on the other hand are loved by their user base.
...AT God said:
....Sarcasm?
Otherwise I don't see the logic there. BioWare/EA are hardly strapped strapped for cash and I doubt a few extra sales of ME 1 & 2 would have helped. Regardless, ME3's ending was a creative decision. As far as they were concerned, it was finished at launch.
At the moment, yeah, it's a lot like that. However, one has only to look at BioWare's fall from grace to see just how quickly public sentiment can bite you in the ass. Moreover, the more popular you are, the more people hate you when you fall.Eric the Orange said:
If valve ever does fall in the public's perspective, I suspect they'll fall hard.
Captcha: Steam Punk...... creepy.....
Another view aside from "If i liked it i will buy the next at full price" is having huge sales on games brings in customers who never would have bought the game at all. I have 3 titles that i bought on sales that i never would have touched ever. sales make customers, it is that simple.
Also those who are going to wait for the price to drop were going to wait anyway, keeping the price high forever and they just wont buy it. Those who do buy it at full price were going to already, not because they said they wont lower the price so you might as well buy now.
Also those who are going to wait for the price to drop were going to wait anyway, keeping the price high forever and they just wont buy it. Those who do buy it at full price were going to already, not because they said they wont lower the price so you might as well buy now.
I guess we have to settle for Valve defending itself, though.Darkmantle said:
Don't forget the part where they then did it.canadamus_prime said:
Shhh...Don't address the elephant in the room.Eric the Orange said:
I feel like Valve intuitively knows good business. They're the good guys that just tries a make everyone happy first, and then money will come.
Like they are shitting on everyone else, looking good while doing it.
Like they are shitting on everyone else, looking good while doing it.
A good friend loved that game (the remake). Couldn't say enough about the fun they had playing it. But all I hear from others is how bad it is. I don't think they are a freak, so I can't work out if I'm hearing a vocal minority that's jaded by nostalgia, or if he is indeed just weird.Ville Vuorela said:
There's nothing wrong with valve, I'd dare say they are one of the best big game companies in the business, name 3 better champ.Zachary Amaranth said:
See, now you've shifted the goalposts. In a cesspool like the gaming industry, "better" doesn't translate into "good."Darkmantle said:
Valve has a very nice Wal-Mart deal going on right now, which is wonderful up until they poison the well. Considering people shit all over any other digital service, I'd say that's already happened.
Sorry, "champ," but Valve are not good guys, even if they look it because the bar is so low.