Valve Explains Lack of PlayStation 3 Support

[Gerazzi]

And now to enjoy the flames that shall come. Going to get Marshmallows to roast!

...
can I have some?

Seriously, my gaming platform is now the PC.

 

[Woe Is You]

Right now VALVe is saying a bunch of different things about PS3s from "It's a waste of time" to "it's more or less a waste of time" to "we don't want to treat PS3 owners like $5 whores" (even though they're treating 360 owners in the same retrospect when you think about it). They're going all over the place with their reasons/excuses/whatever for not working on PS3s and frankly, my dear, I couldn't give a damn (why did that quote just pop in my head?) anymore.

You're giving a damn by commenting about it.

To be honest, I'm not seeing anything different here as opposed to the whole MGS4 thing: while in development we got a load of flipflopping between can't be done on the 360, could be possible after all, not gonna happen, Kojima hates the 360, yadda yadda yadda. And a whole load of "why aren't you developing for [platfrom X]?" until everybody got tired of it. Then some more of that again after the release.

 

[13lackfriday]

Wow, it's just another dickslap from the PS3's steadily-thinning list of 3rd-party developers.

Sony really needs to start listening to the advice it's getting even from sellouts like Activision (i.e., console complexity, high price range, yada yada yada...).

 

[Jumplion]

Right now VALVe is saying a bunch of different things about PS3s from "It's a waste of time" to "it's more or less a waste of time" to "we don't want to treat PS3 owners like $5 whores" (even though they're treating 360 owners in the same retrospect when you think about it). They're going all over the place with their reasons/excuses/whatever for not working on PS3s and frankly, my dear, I couldn't give a damn (why did that quote just pop in my head?) anymore.

You're giving a damn by commenting about it.

To be honest, I'm not seeing anything different here as opposed to the whole MGS4 thing: while in development we got a load of flipflopping between can't be done on the 360, could be possible after all, not gonna happen, Kojima hates the 360, yadda yadda yadda. And a whole load of "why aren't you developing for [platfrom X]?" until everybody got tired of it. Then some more of that again after the release.

Hey, I said "anymore", read the fine print people!

 

[Blayze]

Huh. I thought it was going to be Gabe Newell spitting out PS3 insults and chicken grease.

 

[Chrissyluky]

Because most of their dev costs go into buying snacks for Gabe Newell?

Sarcasm aside though, it's pretty obvious this is damage control. After pissing off a 23 million strong install base, basically giving them the finger, they have to come out and say something less caustic than most of what they have to say about the PS3, because, simply put, that attitude could start damaging PC/360 sales. Developers getting full of themselves, tend to turn people off.
nah what pisses me off is devs that start working on a sequel as the first one releases and then release that half a year later.

Morne

what pisses me off is devs that dont deliver content they promise or patch as often as they promise or give the game the same amount of attention as their others.

 

[Spirit_Of_Fire]

Wow a company that is as large as Valve to come out and openly give reasons for why they dont use the PS3 must really hurt all those PS3 owners.

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

-snip-

Christ Morne, that was savage, I think HyenaThePirate tasted that one.

And you aren't really going to stop signing your name at the end of your posts, are you??

 

[Alarid]

It is easy for them to design for the XBox as compared to the PS3. The 360 has similar programming to that of a computer, so it is easier to port.

Is that why it takes so long for Valve to get DLC to the 360? Cause its just too easy to port to.

I said the PROGRAMMING was similar. The 360 has less room for them to move around in; the specs of it and the actual functionality differ from the PC (mostly, they don't have as high of a threshold).

In the PC version, they can easily change the game physics and change the actual functionality of the game. For the XBox, they just can't do that, since the game is on the disc and not the system; the disc contents can't be changed, and they would have to rewrite the fuctionality of the game on the HD, and that in itself holds problems.

They also can't just add the features to the game as they come out like on the PC either, because how would you like to pay for only a couple of extra features at a time? I don't know about you, but I would not want to pay for only 3 new weapons EACH TIME they have a class update. I would rather pay for a large addition to the game, like some Fallout 3 DLC.

 

[Jennacide]

Poor Doug, always trying to water down the fires that Gabe creates. Though I have to say, it's one thing I've always found refreshing about Gabe Newell. He's one of only like 5 devs I can think of that just say thier mind and don't dance around the subjects. (Another notable is the highly outspoken Dave Jaffe) The PS3 diehard fanboys won't care what Doug has to say though.

Valve is a PC company, always has been, and likely always will be. And that upsets them, and they will ***** about it. Move on. =|

 

[bue519]

It is easy for them to design for the XBox as compared to the PS3. The 360 has similar programming to that of a computer, so it is easier to port.

Is that why it takes so long for Valve to get DLC to the 360? Cause its just too easy to port to.

I said the PROGRAMMING was similar. The 360 has less room for them to move around in; the specs of it and the actual functionality differ from the PC (mostly, they don't have as high of a threshold).

In the PC version, they can easily change the game physics and change the actual functionality of the game. For the XBox, they just can't do that, since the game is on the disc and not the system; the disc contents can't be changed, and they would have to rewrite the fuctionality of the game on the HD, and that in itself holds problems.

They also can't just add the features to the game as they come out like on the PC either, because how would you like to pay for only a couple of extra features at a time? I don't know about you, but I would not want to pay for only 3 new weapons EACH TIME they have a class update. I would rather pay for a large addition to the game, like some Fallout 3 DLC.

But wouldn't Valve give out the DLC for free. It just seems like their too "lazy" to port updates on to the xbox, either that or it's too "complicated" to port to.

 

[m_jim]

*snip*
Oh, damn, I made the mistake of reading the last few lines. I don't see any of Sony's internal devs having a problem with it, bitching or not. They make top-notch games, with little to no belly-aching, ala Valve. And, well, if you need a '3rd' party developer *rolls eyes* Look no further than Kojima studios. Sorry, they're not Sony exclusive, even if the game was.

I laughed at this part. Gee, Morne...why do you think that Sony's internal developers don't have a problem with making games for the system that Sony created? Do you think that the internal developers might know something that, say, external developers might not? In all seriousness, please tell me that there is some layer of sarcasm that I am missing there...

It's habit, been posting on forums, news groups, bulletin boards and such for the better part of 20 years. Old habits die hard

You've mentioned that you've been online for almost 20 years three times in this thread. I am very impressed...you must be really good at the internets!

 

[Bat Vader]

I am sure they got profits from putting Indigo Prophecy on the 360 for original X-BOX titles. I don't think Microsoft cares whether they have Heavy Rain or not.

People should just accept that some games won't come out for some consoles.

 

[Super Jamz]

Interesting, although I don't think Half-Life on the PS2 sucked.

 

[v3n0mat3]

<- More or less a Sony fan

Who cares? They do what they want. Besides, all their games are better on the PC. Now what they really need to do is work on Steam 'cause that damn thing is so buggy!