Valve Explains Lack of PlayStation 3 Support

[Low Key]

Valve shouldn't have to quantify a reason for anything they do or don't do. It's none of our business. They are a privately owned company and don't have to worry about any outside interests like investors. As a matter of fact, most of their games aren't ported to any consoles. If they stayed dedicated to PC development, it wouldn't bother me one bit, and I don't even play PC games.

 

[thecodemaster]

Valve have no excuse for not developing on the PlayStation 3. There are dozens of high quality games on the PS3 already, and Valve should have no trouble developing for it too.

They're just making excuses for the poor quality of The Orange Box on PS3

 

[mathadawg]

Ok, yes I am a valve fanboy (so you don't have to accuse me of it because it's true), but just read the post.

This is kinda like L4D2, you can sit around whining about how you don't like it and waste your time...

or you can just not even bother and do something more valuable with your time.

I think Valve did make a stupid statement saying that the PS3 was inferior instead of just giving a good reason why they aren't making games for it, but sitting on here arguing about it is a complete waste of time.

This seems like somthing that would happen with my little brother. He says something incredibly stupid (like this)I would yell at him for saying it, but all that he really can do is say sorry.

Valve has already tried to say sorry, so quit arguing about this and find something else to waste your time on.

 

[Zer_]

Valve have no excuse for not developing on the PlayStation 3. There are dozens of high quality games on the PS3 already, and Valve should have no trouble developing for it too.

They're just making excuses for the poor quality of The Orange Box on PS3

The Orange Box on PS3 was a port, plain and simple. The Source engine was not coded with the PS3 in mind. Starting a game from the ground up specifically for the PS3 is a lot easier then porting a game that wasn't coded with the PS3 in mind into the PS3.

It has been said before; Valve does not have the properly trained coders to effectively port a game to the PS3. If they did it themselves I'm sure it'd get done, but the overall quality of the game would suffer. I think Valve would rather have any porting done in-house as well since we all know how the Orange Box suffered on the PS3. Their decision to stop supporting the PS3 at least until they have the proper manpower and resources to do so makes perfect sense. Why would I spend more money to release a lower quality version of a game?

Someday maybe Valve will hire a few specialized coders that are more familiar with the PS3's architecture, but until then people will have to accept the fact that Valve won't be porting their games to the PS3.

 

[Low Key]

Valve shouldn't have to quantify a reason for anything they do or don't do. It's none of our business. They are a privately owned company and don't have to worry about any outside interests like investors. As a matter of fact, most of their games aren't ported to any consoles. If they stayed dedicated to PC development, it wouldn't bother me one bit, and I don't even play PC games.

but at the same token, I, as a consumer, can choose not to support a company who is as obnoxious as Valve has been (arguably, mind you). They may not have to apease investors, but if they remove potential consumers, it'll hurt their company. From that perspective, it is their business to make sure the consumer's don't think this company is just ignorant in order that their sales won't suffer.

Assuming you have a console, it doesn't really matter if you choose whether or not to support Valve. Therein lies your conundrum.

It's not like they are making a killing on consoles anyways. There main market is on the PC, and I can only imagine that's how it will stay, at least until consoles start doing digital downloads instead of releasing discs.

 

[Low Key]

Valve shouldn't have to quantify a reason for anything they do or don't do. It's none of our business. They are a privately owned company and don't have to worry about any outside interests like investors. As a matter of fact, most of their games aren't ported to any consoles. If they stayed dedicated to PC development, it wouldn't bother me one bit, and I don't even play PC games.

but at the same token, I, as a consumer, can choose not to support a company who is as obnoxious as Valve has been (arguably, mind you). They may not have to apease investors, but if they remove potential consumers, it'll hurt their company. From that perspective, it is their business to make sure the consumer's don't think this company is just ignorant in order that their sales won't suffer.

Assuming you have a console, it doesn't really matter if you choose whether or not to support Valve. Therein lies your conundrum.

It's not like they are making a killing on consoles anyways. There main market is on the PC, and I can only imagine that's how it will stay, at least until consoles start doing digital downloads instead of releasing discs.

I still don't see the conundrum. I have both a PC and consoles, and personally, I hate valve (but for more reasons than just this). And let me rephrase my original point. As a targeted consumer by valve, I can still choose not to support them.

Then don't. Simple as that. It's like if you own a 360. You have a buy a PS3 to play God of War. No amount of bitching will EVER change that. What makes PS3 owners so special that Valve should bend over backwards to accommodate them? NOTHING!

Basically Valve does what they do because it works for them. If you don't buy what they offer, thousands of other people will. They aren't going to lose sleep if you don't buy their products.

 

[SimuLord]

Bethesda needs to take notes from Valve and decide that either they're coming at the PS3 firing with both barrels (Fallout 3, I'm looking at you and your weak PS3 port and lack of DLC) or they're sticking to the PC and 360.

 

[Jumplion]

Bethesda needs to take notes from Valve and decide that either they're coming at the PS3 firing with both barrels (Fallout 3, I'm looking at you and your weak PS3 port and lack of DLC) or they're sticking to the PC and 360.

The DLC was timed-exclusivity paid for by Microsoft, the DLC will be coming sometime soon to the PS3 as well with a Game of the Year package, which I'm waiting for, that will contain all the previous DLCs.

I fail to see how Bethesda really fits into any of this.

 

[SimuLord]

Bethesda needs to take notes from Valve and decide that either they're coming at the PS3 firing with both barrels (Fallout 3, I'm looking at you and your weak PS3 port and lack of DLC) or they're sticking to the PC and 360.

The DLC was timed-exclusivity paid for by Microsoft, the DLC will be coming sometime soon to the PS3 as well with a Game of the Year package, which I'm waiting for, that will contain all the previous DLCs.

I fail to see how Bethesda really fits into any of this.

Besides the DLC issue (GotY edition or not, the fact remains that FO3 players have had to wait several months to a year compared to PC/360 owners, yes, I'm aware that's largely Sony's fault for not ponying up...), there's also the issue of everything I've seen pointing to the idea that the PS3 versions of both Fallout 3 and Oblivion were buggier, less polished, and more of an afterthought than their PC and 360 brethren, suggesting that Bethesda needs to follow suit with Valve and either get a dedicated PS3 team to do the port right or stop supporting Sony's console entirely and stick to the platforms they do best.

 

[Jumplion]

Bethesda needs to take notes from Valve and decide that either they're coming at the PS3 firing with both barrels (Fallout 3, I'm looking at you and your weak PS3 port and lack of DLC) or they're sticking to the PC and 360.

The DLC was timed-exclusivity paid for by Microsoft, the DLC will be coming sometime soon to the PS3 as well with a Game of the Year package, which I'm waiting for, that will contain all the previous DLCs.

I fail to see how Bethesda really fits into any of this.

Besides the DLC issue (GotY edition or not, the fact remains that FO3 players have had to wait several months to a year compared to PC/360 owners, yes, I'm aware that's largely Sony's fault for not ponying up...), there's also the issue of everything I've seen pointing to the idea that the PS3 versions of both Fallout 3 and Oblivion were buggier, less polished, and more of an afterthought than their PC and 360 brethren, suggesting that Bethesda needs to follow suit with Valve and either get a dedicated PS3 team to do the port right or stop supporting Sony's console entirely and stick to the platforms they do best.

I have Oblivion on PS3 and I haven't had too many issues with bugs, at least not as many bugs that I heard were on the 360 and PC. Not that that disproves that it wasn't buggy, I'll admit. Still, it would be silly of Bethesda to cut support of the PS3 as they simply have no reason to not support it anyway and I personally think they're reputation would plummet if they discontinued support for whatever arbitrary reason.

VALVe on the other hand is being pandered by everyone to support or not support the PS3. Ever since Gabe made the ignorant comment of "I think it's a waste of time" (and it was an ignorant comment, do not deny that) VALVe has been trying to recuperate from that to not seem like the evil-dooers here. This has ranged from "The PS3 is too complex" to "We tried our best, but we didn't do much" to "We don't want the PS3 owners to be treated like $5 hookers". It's all a very big mess, though I personally could not give two shits with what VALVe supports and doesn't. All I want, and a lot of other people want, is for VALVe to just say a clear simple statement and just move on. So far they've failed to do that.

But now I'm getting on a rant, I must shut up every now and again.

 

[Blayze]

So far they've failed to do that.

That would be because Gabe's grease-covered fingers keep slipping on the keyboard.

Doug seems increasingly like some overworked, underpaid office monkey attempting to perform damage control on the results of Gabe's loose tongue -- probably from wrapping it around small animals to consume them whole.

Yes, I know it's a one-trick pony -- but it's hilarious.

 

[Bat Vader]

I find it silly that people are mad at Valve for not developing games for the PS3.

 

[mrx19869]

Valve is so contradictory
we hate the ps3, the ps3 is a waste of time, well maybe

um make up your mind..
but then again,
i have an idea

Valve can go toss off the main character of Half Life.
Half Life was cool. 10 years ago, so i don,t care if they don,t care about me and my ps3,


... so i thank you valve, please do not get your "team" together, and dont make games for the ps3.....

thnks...