And yet my favorite game of theirs is the one that took them under a year to make, Left 4 Dead 2.
Valve: "Valve Time" is a Compliment
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As much as I hate Valve time and their terrible business model(make a few games that sell incredibly well and live off extended pay from Steam and TF2), I've gotta admit, they are still the kings when it comes to any fps game.
The thing is that valve can release a solid game without issues at a non-slave labour-esque pace for the devs and the Q-A team. And frankly I doubt they give a shit about a few people whining and complaining when they have some of the most dedicated fans in the world and even if people started hating their companies ways of business those people wont boycott Half-life 3 whenever it comes out just because it took a long time for development, it will still sell crazily.
I like how the only argument against Valve is that they aren't giving people what they want fast enough. It seems like a general trend in the game industry that the people who buy the games believe they are more entitled to control than the people who create them. Get over yourselves. So long as there are people like me who can wait for quality products, you're immature "gimme now" attitude is only going to make your own life worse.
Boy do I hate PR responses like this more than life itself.
Frankly it always comes off to me as arrogance of the highest order, this is one of the few acts by any member of Valve that I can say without hesitation I find absolutely one hundred percent detestable and unjustifiable.
I love Valve, but Valve Time has -never- been a compliment and to smugly claim that they take it as one is the act of a douche-bag.
Frankly it always comes off to me as arrogance of the highest order, this is one of the few acts by any member of Valve that I can say without hesitation I find absolutely one hundred percent detestable and unjustifiable.
I love Valve, but Valve Time has -never- been a compliment and to smugly claim that they take it as one is the act of a douche-bag.
I think it's about time I boycott Valve. Their constant hipster wanks and pretense to being something other than the purchaser of modding talent has gotten my gander up one too many times!
Start the pickets!
Start the pickets!
Ah Valve always with an abundance of two things: arrogance, and fanboys to shamelessly hang off every word and unnecessarily boost the ego level even higher. Well back to see if the DRM monster feels like letting me download the games I paid money for yet.
You know, I think they make pills that'll fix that limp insult right up.Vigormortis said:major_chaos said:Clearing the Eye said:Oh you. So precious. It's like watching a group of elderly people try to use slang words to fit in. You know what they're saying is wrong but you don't want to embarrass them.MelasZepheos said:
Also, here's a napkin. You've got a little "bias" on your face.
I appreciate the generous offer but I think you need the napkin more than me, smug condescending arrogance stains if you don't wipe it up fast.Vigormortis said:major_chaos said:Clearing the Eye said:Oh you. So precious. It's like watching a group of elderly people try to use slang words to fit in. You know what they're saying is wrong but you don't want to embarrass them.MelasZepheos said:
Also, here's a napkin. You've got a little "bias" on your face.
Not necessarily. Did you notice how long 3D Realms held out? And Duke Nukem 3D, not to put too fine a point on it, wasn't nearly the game-changer that Half-Life was.Jove said:
They've actually kept up a modest schedule- HL2 in 2004, Episode 1 in 2006, Episode 2, TF2, and Portal in 2007, L4D in 2008, L4D 2 in 2009, and Portal 2 in 2011, among others.
I don't doubt that Steam has made it a lot easier for them to take their time on their projects and pick and choose the ones they want to implement. They don't have to have a AAA holiday release every year to be certain of making payroll. But it's really only the delay on HL 2 Ep. 3 (or possibly HL3) that makes them seem like they're really slacking.
My God. I'm still amazed at the shear level of misinformation in this thread from the Valve haters. It's...it's almost like they're basing their entire arguments on flimsy assumptions. Assumptions made from already weak or just out-right false information.
It's something akin to listening to Fox News. It's absolute nonsense; yet it's nonsense spoken with such conviction it's no wonder people buy into it.
Also, I just wanted to complement you on your earlier post. Within the span of two sentences you managed to insult Valve, Valve fans, Steam, the Steam store, "DRM", and (in a "by proxy" sort of way) Gabe Newell.
That's impressive. Well played sir.
It's something akin to listening to Fox News. It's absolute nonsense; yet it's nonsense spoken with such conviction it's no wonder people buy into it.
Just out of curiosity, what would you "boycotting" Valve do exactly? I mean, beyond the obvious "nothing". Since you're already a firm detractor of the developer; and one would assume one that doesn't buy their products; what would you hope to accomplish by "boycotting"? Is it just so you can put a fancy title to what you're already doing? To "show off" to your fellow detractors?Clearing the Eye said:
Don't worry. I use Scotch-Guard. I'm good.major_chaos said:
Also, I just wanted to complement you on your earlier post. Within the span of two sentences you managed to insult Valve, Valve fans, Steam, the Steam store, "DRM", and (in a "by proxy" sort of way) Gabe Newell.
That's impressive. Well played sir.
Ass-ump-tions ;DVigormortis said:
Where I once purchased a few of their products, I no longer will, as I don't wish to support people I dislike. This, in turn, deprives them of the money they would have otherwise gotten--the opposite of what a business seeks to achieve. You know, voting with your wallet?
Seriously, see about those pills. Limp insults are not something you have to put up with. See a doctor and get it sorted today. Unless hilariously transparent condescension from an utterly vacuous platform is what gets your rocks off.
except that they sold many games that are extremely popular and still run games that make tons of profit (team fortress 2 for example). Yes steam brings money, but they wouldnt go bancrupt without it. Their games dont flop.Jove said:
Personally id rather wait 1 year longer and get a good game than wait 1 year less and get something like Mirrors edge.
We each have different likings. I for one dont care for half-life games at all, but i dont mind that people do, it is thier choice as it is mine to play strategy games instead.
I find the whole development time issue to be moot anyways. One of my two favorite developers has released fifteen games in the past sixteen years, and the ten that I have played were all very good, most of them great. My other favorite developer has released six complete games in the past thirteen years, and the five that I've played will probably be among my favorites forever.
The bigger issue is that Valve is adamantly refusing to even discuss the main item that their fans have been clamoring for since 2007. They claim to have their main interest be the continuing support of their fans, whom they then continue to blatantly ignore. If I were a fan of Valve, I wouldn't stand for that kind of treatment, and it amazes me that so many still do.
The bigger issue is that Valve is adamantly refusing to even discuss the main item that their fans have been clamoring for since 2007. They claim to have their main interest be the continuing support of their fans, whom they then continue to blatantly ignore. If I were a fan of Valve, I wouldn't stand for that kind of treatment, and it amazes me that so many still do.