Vegetarianism
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Most vegans/vegetarians views are not that we were never supposed to eat meat but are more along the lines of "If we don't need to, and if it causes suffering to animals, then why why should we?" Which in my opinion seems perfectly logical.
Also you all seem to be talking of pills and supplements as a necessity. They aren't. They are generally only used by people who want to keep up their belief, but don't like the right food to get the right nutrients, or they can't afford (monetarily) to keep up their diets and keep them balanced (such as students). The final group or people that will use them are just generally paranoid that they aren't getting the right nutrients. I know plenty of perfectly healthy vegetarians who don't take any form of pills.
Also you all seem to be talking of pills and supplements as a necessity. They aren't. They are generally only used by people who want to keep up their belief, but don't like the right food to get the right nutrients, or they can't afford (monetarily) to keep up their diets and keep them balanced (such as students). The final group or people that will use them are just generally paranoid that they aren't getting the right nutrients. I know plenty of perfectly healthy vegetarians who don't take any form of pills.
I'm Vegan and basically just eat a wide variety of fruit, veg and everything that isn't meat basically and perhaps you should invest in a couple of books to help you get information on things like nutrition.
Also prepare for the hate(which i suppose is demonstrated somewhat by some of these responses) seriously i get so much hate for being a vegan it's ridiculous.
Oh yes and you won't need to take pills to supplement your diet they're just a recomended idea i have been vegan now for almost two years before that i was vegetarian for 3 and i have never once taken any form of supplement so only if you want to.
Also prepare for the hate(which i suppose is demonstrated somewhat by some of these responses) seriously i get so much hate for being a vegan it's ridiculous.
Oh yes and you won't need to take pills to supplement your diet they're just a recomended idea i have been vegan now for almost two years before that i was vegetarian for 3 and i have never once taken any form of supplement so only if you want to.
cant it be PROVEN that man is not meant to eat only veggies or only meat?
if you live in poverty, 3rd world country etc. you eat what you can get your hands on, you dont care what it is, as long as its sustenance for your body to keep on functioning, and our body processes it. without meat your body would fail if it was not for the alternative forms of gaining the nutrients, same for veggies.
I find Veganism, Vegetarianism to be a product of people who have excess money to spend on their new life style. I.E, why pay double for a bottle of pills for protein , then for iron, when you can buy a steak for half that and grill it at home?
but I guess its whatever floats your boat.
if you live in poverty, 3rd world country etc. you eat what you can get your hands on, you dont care what it is, as long as its sustenance for your body to keep on functioning, and our body processes it. without meat your body would fail if it was not for the alternative forms of gaining the nutrients, same for veggies.
I find Veganism, Vegetarianism to be a product of people who have excess money to spend on their new life style. I.E, why pay double for a bottle of pills for protein , then for iron, when you can buy a steak for half that and grill it at home?
but I guess its whatever floats your boat.
Spoken like someone who has no concept of factory farming. Look up a chicken battery farm. It's like calling Auschwitz the "lap of luxury."Cuniculus said:
You'd think that would be hyperbole, but, honestly, what we do to animals is pretty sick. That picture of a farm with a cow, some pigs, a dozen chickens and a red barn? That's not the reality. Animals, in modern farms, are treated as simple machines that convert low quality grain into meat - their needs are far from being the farmer's concern.
Fish and pasta is a good mix, and most Japanese dishes have a lot to offer in the way of vegetarian/pescetarian diets.
Also, don't let these haters get to you, they're just frustrated. I wouldn't go completely off animal proteins, but if you do, that's just fine.
Also, don't let these haters get to you, they're just frustrated. I wouldn't go completely off animal proteins, but if you do, that's just fine.
You can get protein from beans and broccoli. It's a cheaper and more efficient way to get protein.Jenkins said:
It'll actually save you quite a bit of money. http://lifehacker.com/5271178/
Uh, beans? Where do you think tasty animals get iron from in the first place? Wouldn't you think it'd be more efficient to cut out the middle man?Jenkins said:
See, I don't hate vegans, I just hate the people you allow to represent you. As an unrepentant carnivore I don't go around waving pamphlets in people's faces or hold demonstrations outside of the supermarket. If anybody asks if I eat meat I respond with a yes, but I don't feel the need to wave my dietary values around like I see many vegans/vegetarians do. It's the obsessive and creepy ones within your lifestyle: the ones that think animals are better than people, that firebomb universities in the name of animal rights, the ones that petition Ben and Jerry's to use human breast milk in their ice cream.....those are the ones I hate.ellie91 said:
I think that's a fairly unpleasant caricature you're subscribing to. You can't really treat people based on some publicity stunts you've heard about.JaredXE said:
I think the message a lot of them are trying to send is not "animals are better than people" but "people aren't so much better than animals that we can just harm them for our enjoyment." It's certainly not indefensible.
Hitler was a vegetarian thus you hate freedom and want to enslave humanity. This is a known fact hence why Vegans, Vegetarians are so damn preachy and pushy because they have what I call the Hitler Gene. Anyways I eat 3 times more animals to make up for veggies not eating them. I make it my personal crusade to eat tasty animals and strike another blow for Freedom, Apple Pie and the American Way!Chartic said: