Vegetarianism

[ProfessorLayton]

Not eating meat is bad for you. It's much harder to get protein and it doesn't matter if you don't eat meat because I will and I eat a whole bunch of meat.

 

[Cliff_m85]

Not eating meat is bad for you. It's much harder to get protein and it doesn't matter if you don't eat meat because I will and I eat a whole bunch of meat.

I just buy a ton and throw it away.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

Out of all the things in the world, I would be most disappointed with my kid if they became a vegetarian or (even worse) a vegan.

Okay. Care to explain why?

They'll miss out on some wonderful tastes as well as bland their taste buds. Not to mention possibly developing the holier-than-thou disorder that most veggies have.

So what you're really afraid of is the thought of your kids looking down on you?

Meat, on it's own, is pretty bland. It's all spices and marinades.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

Not eating meat is bad for you. It's much harder to get protein and it doesn't matter if you don't eat meat because I will and I eat a whole bunch of meat.

1) Beans and broccoli. Loaded with protein.

2) Other people aren't responsible for your actions.

(I'm not vegetarian, by the way.)

 

[Cliff_m85]

Out of all the things in the world, I would be most disappointed with my kid if they became a vegetarian or (even worse) a vegan.

Okay. Care to explain why?

They'll miss out on some wonderful tastes as well as bland their taste buds. Not to mention possibly developing the holier-than-thou disorder that most veggies have.

So what you're really afraid of is the thought of your kids looking down on you?

Meat, on it's own, is pretty bland. It's all spices and marinades.

Not really, I can always just have new kids. (I don't have any yet)

Meat is delicious on it's own sometimes. Scallops, oysters, cappacio, sashimi, etc.

 

[Cliff_m85]

It's a fact that all vegetarians and vegans eventually die.


Care to tell me how much healthier being a veggie is now?

 

[Rajin Cajun]

It's a fact that all vegetarians and vegans eventually die.


Care to tell me how much healthier being a veggie is now?

Preach it Brother! Spread the Good Word! Another Blow against the Evil Vegan Empire and another giant leap for Meat Eating Kind.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

Out of all the things in the world, I would be most disappointed with my kid if they became a vegetarian or (even worse) a vegan.

Okay. Care to explain why?

They'll miss out on some wonderful tastes as well as bland their taste buds. Not to mention possibly developing the holier-than-thou disorder that most veggies have.

So what you're really afraid of is the thought of your kids looking down on you?

Meat, on it's own, is pretty bland. It's all spices and marinades.

Not really, I can always just have new kids. (I don't have any yet)

Meat is delicious on it's own sometimes. Scallops, oysters, cappacio, sashimi, etc.

Yeah, "on it's own" with garlic butter, soy sauce, and wasabi.

It's a fact that all vegetarians and vegans eventually die.


Care to tell me how much healthier being a veggie is now?

Eh, would you rather be healthy at eighty, or bloated and uncomfortable?

Death is an invetiability, but being healthy has its perks.

 

[El Poncho]

If our ancestors were vegetarians we would all still be in africa and not be where we are todaybut i guess eat lots of beans n shiz to get ur protein

 

[yankeefan19]

I have recently started practicing vegetarianism. I still eat fish but will not eat any other type of meat due to them being raised to die. I would like to know if anyone has any advice for me or any warnings that my lifestyle of not eating much meat could have on me.

meat is simply parts of the animal, so fish is still meat idiot.

 

[Cuniculus]

Does being raised to die really matter? If we all just hunted our meat, does that make it better? It would seem that a wild animal, trying desperately to live only to be one of our meals seems worse then an animal who was raised in the lap of luxury (comparatively) and killed after the prime of their life. Seems like a good deal.

Spoken like someone who has no concept of factory farming. Look up a chicken battery farm. It's like calling Auschwitz the "lap of luxury."

You'd think that would be hyperbole, but, honestly, what we do to animals is pretty sick. That picture of a farm with a cow, some pigs, a dozen chickens and a red barn? That's not the reality. Animals, in modern farms, are treated as simple machines that convert low quality grain into meat - their needs are far from being the farmer's concern.

You sly dog you! I see what you did there. Taking the obvious extremes of the point and making me defend it. Obviously not every single farm is the best place to go for animals, but then again, neither is every home. Neither is every place in the wild. There are always going to be terrible places, some worse than others. When it comes to being fed, and living until we're ready to eat you, being on a farm is much better then living in the wild.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

Does being raised to die really matter? If we all just hunted our meat, does that make it better? It would seem that a wild animal, trying desperately to live only to be one of our meals seems worse then an animal who was raised in the lap of luxury (comparatively) and killed after the prime of their life. Seems like a good deal.

Spoken like someone who has no concept of factory farming. Look up a chicken battery farm. It's like calling Auschwitz the "lap of luxury."

You'd think that would be hyperbole, but, honestly, what we do to animals is pretty sick. That picture of a farm with a cow, some pigs, a dozen chickens and a red barn? That's not the reality. Animals, in modern farms, are treated as simple machines that convert low quality grain into meat - their needs are far from being the farmer's concern.

You sly dog you! I see what you did there. Taking the obvious extremes of the point and making me defend it. Obviously not every single farm is the best place to go for animals, but then again, neither is every home. Neither is every place in the wild. There are always going to be terrible places, some worse than others. When it comes to being fed, and living until we're ready to eat you, being on a farm is much better then living in the wild.

No. I'd rather fend for myself in the wild than be couped up in a small cage, with my teeth cut out, chocking on noxious fumes, while shit was falling on me from the cages above.

This is not the extreme. This is the norm. You go to a restaurant or the supermarket, this is where your meat came from. It's not a cushy life: it's short and traumatic. This is why meat is cheap.

 

[squid5580]

Just do some research and make sure you are getting complete carbohydrates. I am sure you should be able to find tons of vegetarian recipes online to help you out.

Personally I am a carnivore. Very rarely to I eat vegtables.

 

[matnatz]

Whether you eat it or not, they still die. Just now, more of it's going to waste.

 

[Cuniculus]

This is not the extreme. This is the norm. It's not a cushy life: it's short and traumatic. This is why meat is cheap.

Shouldn't someone be out lobbying for a change then? Not pointing any fingers for letting the poor chickens suffer.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

This is not the extreme. This is the norm. It's not a cushy life: it's short and traumatic. This is why meat is cheap.

Shouldn't someone be out lobbying for a change then? Not pointing any fingers for letting the poor chickens suffer.

People do. There have been protests for decades. There's just such a demand for meat, and the agriculture lobby's huge.

Changes happen in baby steps.

 

[Andalusa]

As long as your diet is still balanced and you get enough protein from other sources then you should be fine.
Also, if you eat fish you're not a vegetarian. Fish is a meat.

 

[Cuniculus]

This is not the extreme. This is the norm. It's not a cushy life: it's short and traumatic. This is why meat is cheap.

Shouldn't someone be out lobbying for a change then? Not pointing any fingers for letting the poor chickens suffer.

People do. There have been protests for decades. There's just such a demand for meat, and the agriculture lobby's huge.

Changes happen in baby steps.

Well then that actually makes me think, because obviously it's horrible the way you describe it... but I've seen footage of chicken farms and never even heard of this (please realize I'm not calling you a liar, just saying). The demand for meat is high? So, basically, human beings will tolerate any injustice if it fills their needs? Sounds morbid.

P.S. Will be having chicken for dinner, despite their terrible treatment.

 

[DarkRyter]

I once met a person who only ate meat, if it came from an animal he personally fought and killed with his bare hands. Though he would occasionally use a small knife if the animal was large.

He says it tastes like nature.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

This is not the extreme. This is the norm. It's not a cushy life: it's short and traumatic. This is why meat is cheap.

Shouldn't someone be out lobbying for a change then? Not pointing any fingers for letting the poor chickens suffer.

People do. There have been protests for decades. There's just such a demand for meat, and the agriculture lobby's huge.

Changes happen in baby steps.

Well then that actually makes me think, because obviously it's horrible the way you describe it... but I've seen footage of chicken farms and never even heard of this (please realize I'm not calling you a liar, just saying). The demand for meat is high? So, basically, human beings will tolerate any injustice if it fills their needs? Sounds morbid.

P.S. Will be having chicken for dinner, despite their terrible treatment.

It's not the most positive picture of us, no. If you have the time, look for a copy of Animal Liberation by Peter Singer, preferably the more recent second edition. I don't agree with everything the man says philosophically, but he does an accurate depiction of factory farming.

I'm not totally against eating meat - I'm not a vegetarian - but I don't like the way the animals are treated.