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Hades

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Ah that infamously peaceful president Trump.

In any case we should stay out of it. Partially because its an unjustified, unprovoked attack but also because the last time we went to war for America both their political class and electorate proved to be ingrates who rewarded our loyalty with treason against us. Why repeat all that for some ingrates who aren't even in the right?
 

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Seems they kidnapped Madura. Russia in shambles. This is what a ''three day military operation looks like''. Except more like three hours.

Things being so fast probably suggested the army turned on Maduro instantly.
 
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Seems they kidnapped Madura. Russia in shambles. This is what a ''three day military operation looks like''. Except more like three hours.

Things being so fast probably suggested the army turned on Maduro instantly.
While this whole affair reeks of the worst kind of US interventionism there is at least the positive sidenote that there were not a lot of casualties and that it might not be a protracted operation.

On the negative sides, plural, this kind of interventionism goes against everything that helps keep global order and seems like the kind of thing that would only embolden Trump and his cronies, it seems a slippery slope that starts with Maduro and ends with the Canadian or Danish prime ministers.
 

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Not to give America too much credit but you do see a clear difference between their approach and that of the Russians. The Americans flew in and kidnapped the president with fighting and killing seemingly limited.

When Russia invaded Ukraine they tried to murder any Ukrainian they could get their hands on, and still do.

In case people are saying the two countries are just as bad.
 

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Oof! The savages in Russia have responded that it’s an act of aggression and that Venezuela should be free to decide their own future.

Technically true but said by a spychotic regime whose core ideology is that countries shouldn’t be free to decide their own future, and who launched s genocidal war just to prevent them from doing so.

Zero self awareness
 

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I can't expect anything more from the tyrant, man baby. Dude is literally throwing a temper tantrum, because Canada and Mexico screwed him over.

I hope you're happy Trump voters. Oh wait, most of you aren't or are in situations so much worse.

It is never enough for this asshole, nor the weasels who follow him.

I am not happy about this at all. Though right now, it's looking like a lot of people are responsible, not just soldiers following the orders of a madman who cannot give a damn about them. Fuck those at the top, fuck the people who put the dipshit wannabe king in power, fuck Trump, fuck US congress for just letting it happen, and fuck the EU as well for not even bothering to interfere. Tell me EU, how does that make you better than the United States again?

 

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Oof! The savages in Russia have responded that it’s an act of aggression and that Venezuela should be free to decide their own future.

Technically true but said by a spychotic regime whose core ideology is that countries shouldn’t be free to decide their own future, and who launched s genocidal war just to prevent them from doing so.

Zero self awareness
Russia has to say that, this is what half the planet has wanted to happen to them for years.
 

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Damn straight, those stupid weak things should be on their knees thanking President Trump


I appreciate the honesty


I'm guessing that's a no then.
 

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Well to be fair, Manduro is neither popular nor legitimate, so deposing him isn't exactly the worse thing. This could work out better for Venezuela if they let them rebuild their country without too much interference (I'm assuming they'll ask for oil and stuff). Now at the same time, Manduro was supported by a whole network of crony, these won't just disappear now that he's been captured.
 

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This could work out better for Venezuela if they let them rebuild their country without too much interference (I'm assuming they'll ask for oil and stuff).
Looking at history, not the greatest odds of that happening. Then again, how the country is run is irrelevant so long as whoever is running it sells the country out to the US and its corporations. Maduro didn't want to play ball, so it had to go. Machado seems more amenable, but it's got that Nobel prize against it.
 
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Trump pretty much saying he did it for the oil doesn't spell much good for global stability. It means that its now legitimized to just attack your neighbor because you want to steal their stuff.
 
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Alright world, you heard Trump. A leader you deem unfit and put a warrant out for means you can invade them and arrest said leader!

So...take from that what you will world šŸ˜‰

Maybe a guy with 34 convictions?

....plz?
Frankly they kidnapped the wrong one. It should have been Putin. Bibi might be a good consolation prize though