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alphaxion

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PRESS TO CONTINUE - this is alright, at the very least it's quite unique and I did kind of enjoy playing along, but I can't see myself going out of my way to tune in every week. It seems like the idea might get a little old with no real competition involved.
As I've mentioned on the direct comments thread, I have plenty of material to make the show much, much harder - I just figured I'd be better off making it relatively easy for the film fest as an idea showcase, since making it impossible could harm my case rather than elicit support.

I'm glad you find it unique and an interesting prospect, you'll also be heartened to know that I have plenty of ideas for keeping things like the "guess-o-vision" fresh or even outright replaced which would address the only part of the video I am not happy with myself.

For the most part, the gruntwork has been completed and it should be somewhat easy to create regular episodes of it on my straining laptop. If The Escapist decides I'm not suitable for them, I'll continue making episodes.
 

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"Castle Town": Interesting choice with the black & white, and I like the jazz score. Likewise the costuming and makeup do a good job of setting the tone. The acting is fine. I think some of the jokes inherent to "Legend of Zelda as noir" are going over my head, as I'm not the strongest follower of the games. And there is, of course, going to be a certain sense that this is very much in the footsteps of "There Will Be Brawl".

"Chosen- Series Trailer": Interesting idea (choose the storyline by voting), and the cast- what we see of them- looks professional, as does the editing. The muffled audio and the brevity of each clip leaves me more than slightly at a loss as to what the whole thing is about, however, other than that it kind of looks like it wants to be "24".

"The Cooperators": The joke about "In A World..." trailers is now quite past its prime. I really don't feel like I want to hear Bert and Bert swear at each other for five minutes straight every week. Perversely, this may help prove Yahtzee's point about multiplayer gaming.

And, a little off topic, but unless my ears mistake me, isn't the end theme borrowed from one of the "Mass Effect" games, which are- ahem- single player?

"Paradigm": "Battle Royale" crossed with "La Femme Nikita" played as comedy, and sadly, about as humorous as that sounds. The audio is all over the map, and the antagonist's attempt to muster a fearsome, gravelly voice is just kind of irritating. An ambitious idea, to be sure; there just isn't enough there to pull it off.

"Speaking in the First Person": The audio is very, very quiet, which is a little surprising since there's little for the voice-over to compete with. The "hands playing over first-person footage" and commentary isn't a bad idea, but the writing could use some polish.
 

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I'm guessing we will get to see the review of our films after the voting is done since there is only a few days left. I guess that's good, since it won't skew things as much.
 

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Well, tomorrow's the last day for voting, I'm excited to see what the results of this thing are going to be! I'm wondering how well my two favorites are going to do. Not to mention I can't wait to see the commentaries. Should be an interesting week to say the least.
 

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alphaxion said:
PRESS TO CONTINUE - this is alright, at the very least it's quite unique and I did kind of enjoy playing along, but I can't see myself going out of my way to tune in every week. It seems like the idea might get a little old with no real competition involved.
As I've mentioned on the direct comments thread, I have plenty of material to make the show much, much harder - I just figured I'd be better off making it relatively easy for the film fest as an idea showcase, since making it impossible could harm my case rather than elicit support.

I'm glad you find it unique and an interesting prospect, you'll also be heartened to know that I have plenty of ideas for keeping things like the "guess-o-vision" fresh or even outright replaced which would address the only part of the video I am not happy with myself.

For the most part, the gruntwork has been completed and it should be somewhat easy to create regular episodes of it on my straining laptop. If The Escapist decides I'm not suitable for them, I'll continue making episodes.
When I said real competition I kind of meant a reason for playing, in other words a reward or direct competition with other people. Not to say this doesn't work as it is I just wasn't sure how fresh you'd be able to keep the idea from week to week, but only time would tell on that.
 

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"Radiogame Theater": Good voice acting, and some nice riffs on the premise and contrivances of "L4D". Not, by nature, a whole lot to look at. Even a few incidental additions to the animation (say, the radio jerking after a particularly loud sound effect and something falling off the mantle) could add a lot to the visual aspect.

"The Frenzy": Wherever the stock footage comes from, it looks pretty good and it's assembled well. That I can overhear "wind noise" in the background of the original footage is less promising with regard to the finished product, and said original footage is only about half of the 2:30 running time. If this were an actual movie preview, I'd be curious enough to want to hear the reviews of the finished product. But having seen only this much, I wouldn't exactly leap to take on producer credit myself, if you catch my meaning.

"Scars": First thought- "Oh criminy, 'In a World' AGAIN?!"... When I got past that, though, the animation is actually pretty good. The little bit of script we see also seems to be halfway decent. The voice acting isn't bad, but there's a fair amount of "noise" and breathing into the microphone- the audio would definitely benefit from a "pop shield". There's also an awkward pause or two. With only about a minute of actual footage, it's hard to know what the quality of the finished product would be like on a tight schedule (a problem common to many of the "preview-style" offerings) but I admit I like the look of this.

"Requiem For a Gamer": Erm, I get the joke, but you do know that "faux" is actually pronounced "foe", right? Staring into your notes suggests that the cast really needs to rehearse. The "blue screen effect" is jerky and clips people off at unfortunate moments, and the figures in the foreground look very washed out compared to their backgrounds. The acting is over-the-top or stilted, and the random wackiness with the "agent" character at the end is more random then wacky. The end credits are well done...

"Nerd Wars": The audio, aside from a tiny amount of background noise, is crisp- bonus points. Better use of digital effects than many, and that they're reserved for the final half makes them more of a surprise and prevents them from wearing out their welcome. Fairly funny and well written. While the opening "flame war" degenerates more quickly than most I see in real life, it's not far off of what we've seen in countless forums. A very solid offering, and one I could easily see on the front page.
 

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To those citing production value issues. While it does suck that some people won't get their chance because their gear isn't good enough, it is kind of a difficult prospect to greenlight a show that essentially has nothing. The Escapist isn't a TV network, they can't exactly send you top notch gear just because they sign you. They are only looking for a contract to license these shows, not produce them hands on. Basically, if you're shooting on a 300 dollar camera without so much as an input for an external microphone, then you need to compensate with a VERY good script and premise. If not, then you just don't appear to be serious, and they're looking to license serious web producers.

While it may be harsh, they're aiming for the greatest benefit for themselves too, not just the creator's.
 

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"Falcon Man": Interesting opening credits, with crisp sound and decent acting. Costumes are simple but work well enough. Cuts are a bit abrupt in places, and the music gets somewhat over-the-top long before there's a dramatic reason for it to do so. Overall a very competent entry, but I'd like to see a stronger "hook" than "You've forgotten the imagination and innocent enthusiasm of your childhood, you need this icon of your past to show you the way"- it's been done fairly often, and knowing how the series will likely end isn't the most promising start.

"Show About Games Show": A very professional-looking debut (with the possible exception of Toltec's cardboard armor.) Some genuine laughs, and a good use of digital fx- they're part of the natural flow of things rather than feeling forced or obligatory.

"Manichus TV": A pretty good opening song, but by the time the titles are through the biggest problem is already apparent: the video itself seems very low-fidelity, prone to motion blur, and the lack of good lighting doesn't help. Still, the writing does get a few chuckles and the acting isn't too bad.

"They Old": Very muffled and breathy audio over rather simplistic Flash-style animation (minimal, mostly deform-based animation and lipsync). The art that's the basis for said animation is fairly well done, however. The cutting leads to some unfortunate "blipping" in the audio, particularly noticable in the music.

"The Writers": The opening title page is well done. Unfortunately, it's the best part. The video is decently lit, shots are competently framed, and the audio is all comprehendable (things I'll likely never take for granted again,) but the acting is mostly rather stiff and the script failed to raise so much as a smile. There's no one in this film that I like or identify with and would feel compelled to follow. Not to put too fine a point on it, but I find it hard to believe that a single professional TV writer uses longhand for anything beyond the most basic notes at this point. Some effort to conceal that the film is being shot at a high school would also be appreciated.
 

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Callate said:
"Manichus TV": A pretty good opening song, but by the time the titles are through the biggest problem is already apparent: the video itself seems very low-fidelity, prone to motion blur, and the lack of good lighting doesn't help. Still, the writing does get a few chuckles and the acting isn't too bad.
Cheers for the review. Yeah the camera we were using was an eyetoy plugged into my laptop. We were going to use max's camera but he lost it somehow and then we borrowed a camera of a mate but it was broken so in desperation we turned to the eyetoy. We'll have a better camera for episode 2 onwards though.
 

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FlitterFilms said:
alphaxion said:
When I said real competition I kind of meant a reason for playing, in other words a reward or direct competition with other people. Not to say this doesn't work as it is I just wasn't sure how fresh you'd be able to keep the idea from week to week, but only time would tell on that.
*Family Guy Style 'Ooooooh'*

I get ya.

While I'm hoping the video is somewhat in the mould of The Drop in this respect, I'll always be mindful of not slipping into a routine with the show. I tried to do the same with the show I self produced/distributed last year (verticalslice.tv) before having to put it onto hiatus while I make some money to buy that food-type stuff and pay bill-type things :(

It's a shame the LRR guys aleady created ENN, if they hadn't I'd have used recent equipment purchases to drive the production values up and submitted that as my entry.
 

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"They Old": Very muffled and breathy audio over rather simplistic Flash-style animation (minimal, mostly deform-based animation and lipsync). The art that's the basis for said animation is fairly well done, however. The cutting leads to some unfortunate "blipping" in the audio, particularly noticable in the music.
Well, did you think it was funny?
 

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hugh_godolphin said:
Well, did you think it was funny?
I smiled at a couple of points (Chess' backstory and the idea of a "one-move win") but I have to confess that mostly I was struggling too hard to understand what was being said to find it really funny.

"Three-Legged Race": A couple of laughs and some smiles (I appreciated the "The Fly" reference). Looks fairly good, and the audio is largely understandable, though there's a couple of "breathing into the mic" moments. Drags a bit at times.

"The Couch": Cuts between the two actors have jarringly different background noise levels. Wind noise very noticable during outdoor (?) filming. Worth a smile or two, but no real laughs.

"Guitar Zeroes": At least trying to be This is Spinal Tap rather than Zero Punctuation. The audio is mostly muffled and soft (especially when someone off-camera is speaking), and then abruptly we have someone shouting so loudly the sound starts clipping. Pity anyone who turns up their volume. I got the gist of the scrolling text at one segment, but it was very hard to read. Not particularly funny.

"The Adventures of Peter": The voice-over is very hard to understand and occasionally "poppy"; this is especially frustrating because it seems like it's the narrator's affected way of speaking, rather than a technical issue, that's making the narration so hard to parse. The artwork is pretty good, though, and the animation style is notably different.

"Reset to Zero": Lighting is a little bit dim. Script gets some smiles and chuckles, and the acting is pretty good. Audio is clear (thanks!), and the satirical point is appreciated. Though I laughed at some of the titles ("Unnecessarily aroused?"), on the whole I think entrants should try to resist the temptation to poke fun at their self-perceived mediocrity.
 

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"Addicts": A lot of the first speaker's dialogue is very hard to make out, even with the volume turned up to the point of static. This is pretty well lit, shot, and edited, but not particularly funny (is it supposed to be?)

"The Ammo Man" A reasonably well synch'd and coordinated machinema-style (it appears to not be actual machinema) animation. It's just not very funny. I think there was an opportunity missed to point out that the action "hero" and the "terrorist" have very similar underlying objectives, but that may just be me.

"Loading Complete": Well shot, edited, and lit; good use of digital effects; decent acting; sound audible and understandbale. A couple of good laughs, and overall an entertaining effort.

"Lamer": Fairly well shot and edited. Background noise is a little high. A few chuckles, but no big payoffs. The character acting like a stilted video-game character (including the "falling slack" in between dialogue segments) is a well done effect, but it really begs the question why the "date" isn't more aware of how oddly the guy is acting.

"GameTAG": Decent lighting, editing, and sound. Very well put together, but none of the jokes quite "clicked" for me. Also, I'm almost as tired of "video gamers are socially retarded nerds" as I am of "Role-Playing gamers are socially retarded nerds" as a source for comedy.

"Understanding the EULA": Jeez, Mumbles, learn how to animate. The music and dialogue are at different volume levels, the ending animation looks like someone overdosed on caffeine, and the art looks like it was done in MS Paint.

I think that's everyone. I'm going to try to put some over-all conclusions and suggestions regarding the Film Festival into a short video, and I'll announce when it's up.
 

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Hello all, as the vote closes I'd just like to share my quick thoughts on the remaining I've yet to review (I say quick, this seems quite long to me). I'll start with MANICHUS TV as that was requested.

MANICHUS TV - trying not to hold poor production value against people so I won't mention it too much, but I have to say this is easily one of the worst in it's design and edit with an obvious lack of decent equipment (I saw you mention you were filming using and eyetoy so less than ideal). It's unfortunate considering some of the high standard of the other entrants, it seems those lower down the technical food chain are being left behind but in a tie break situation the better produced film is always going to win and this film isn't really strong enough in it's writing to overpower the competition. Curiously the best joke in my opinion is the only joke that has nothing to do with gaming, the stabby chef, but all the jokes drag on a little too long and would have benefited from being quicker and punchier.

THE PITCH - not particularly interestingly shot or edited although certainly not the worse example of this and the script works well enough even if it is a little slow, but it felt a little rambling and I failed to care about the characters enough to want to see more.

THE FRENZY - well put together, not really sure what it has to do with this website which I kind of think will be a factor against it so not a winner in my eyes but putting that aside it's a very well produced very exciting and interesting promo to a series or feature film, and I think if I saw it on it's own merits outside of this competition I'd certainly be interested in seeing more.

THREE-LEGGED RACE - very hit and miss, some good elements and some that just didn't work at all. I'd probably say the animated sections are the best and rest is either boring or annoying.

THE COUCH - didn't find this funny at all. The jokes themselves are okay as ideas but the poor writing and performances kill them completely. Comedy is all about timing and this doesn't have any.

GUITAR ZEROS - a well structured idea that is a good example of somebody using their limited resources to peak efficiency and I love a good mockumentary. It's well put together and the characters are really nicely written and performed. There's plenty of potential here.

THE GROUP - unfortunately with TALES FROM THE TABLE in the competition this just looks like a cheap knock off of that. Curiously I think THE GROUP actually has a slightly better script so if you mutated the two films together then something amazing could be the result. As a side note the line "drop it like it's initiative" is something that from now on I shall be using as much as possible when I game.

JUST ANOTHER ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE - nice idea but the script never seems to come together and the characters are all annoying in their own way. All in all I liked some of the gags, the oblivious gossiping girls for example (even though it's been done before), but as a whole it just didn't seem to work.

WORKS IN THEORY - nicely written with pretty good jokes but poor performances and unimaginative shooting let down an otherwise quite inventive idea.

SCARS - I like the animation and the script is good but the pacing is all wrong and it plays much too slow which means I saw the jokes coming before they had time to make me laugh.

PARADIGM - nice idea but poorly constructed although some good jokes and some pretty decent writing overall. I would say the writing is definitely the strongest element here, but unfortunately everything else needs work.

THE WRITERS - the characters and the performances are good and the story and the script work, the problem here is that there's nothing about this film to make it stand out from the rest of the sitcom selection so whilst it's good I think it's going to just blend in with everything else.

UNDERSTANDING THE EULA - not particularly well animated but an interesting idea which is well written and could work as a series of critical reviews of most anything annoying in the world, after all everyone likes a good moan every now and then.

DO IT TO IT - this actually confused me at first as to whether it was a sketch show or a series because the sketches drag on a little. Well written and pretty funny, pretty well shot and edited as well (although far from perfect) and you guys certainly look like you had fun which makes for a more enjoyable viewing experience with this kind of thing.

THE ADVENTURES OF PETER - the voice over is a little dodgy, not for sound quality as such but there's a thumping noise of something hitting the mic, the reader stumbles the words and it breaks a couple of times presumably because the person speaking made a mistake. Other than that it's good, the animation and music work really well together and the story is well written.

ADDICTS - well written and performed, a little dull to look at so whilst it works in this promo episode not sure you'd be able to keep up a whole series of nothing but monologues to camera. That's not to say you couldn't do it but you'd have to be bringing your A game every week to cover up the fact that nothing's really happening.

LAMER - main character a little overacted for my liking but the other guy plays the role really well and most of my laughs came from watching him. All in all I didn't like this but I think that's just because of the main guy being so obnoxious. I get that the guy he's controlling bullies him a little but he's still not a sympathetic character.

GAMETAG - this is okay, some good gags and it's nicely edited even though the shoot itself is a little dodgy. I can see this holding my interest for a while but as I keep saying like a lot of the other sitcom structure videos in the competition ultimately it's out shined by the more original films.

MACINEMA - didn't find the opening funny and didn't understand the point of the rest. It was well put together but the stilted nature of the visuals makes it a bit repetitive as the script wasn't really strong enough for it to not feel like we're simply watching somebody play the game.

THE WASTELANDS - kind of funny but the jokes all really come from the visuals and the dialogue is pretty weak in my opinion. Not bad but certainly not amongst the top comedies submitted.

SMASHING DICE - this is nicely written but the animation and the audio has a lot of problems that are a little distracting and whilst I didn't find it particularly interesting the writing was good enough that it will probably hold the attention of people interested in the subject matter.

UNEARTHED - the design chosen is nice in it's uniqueness and offers a more interesting animated style to watch but this is a little too slow and hard to get into.

THE MIDNIGHT CHANNEL - ultimately very boring although that actually seems to be the point to some degree. The dynamic of the trio is kind of interesting and it did make me think that instead of the guy you had it would be fun to watch somebody with next to no knowledge of gaming trying to play something, like if you made a series out of watching your mum trying to figure out how to play the Final Fantasy series. That would make me laugh.

Q.E.D. - a bit too weird to look at for me, gave me a bit of a headache. Certainly an interesting choice but not a good one in my opinion. The story and dialogue is bizarrely stilted and the performances are pretty bad and I don't really understand what was going on or why I'm supposed to care.

BLUE SKY - interesting idea for the opening, although I suspect it arose out of a lack of time to animate a full episode as much as for any artistic reason. I like the script and the reveal when the lens cap comes off was actually a nice surprise which worked really well so I'd say this has potential for a whole series.


--- I think this covers them all, best of luck to everyone ---
 

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Callate said:
hugh_godolphin said:
Well, did you think it was funny?
I smiled at a couple of points (Chess' backstory and the idea of a "one-move win") but I have to confess that mostly I was struggling too hard to understand what was being said to find it really funny.
Fuck. I'm really sorry to hear that. The audio really fucked it up. Also, there is the issue that English is not my native language, but I fucking hate having a foreign accent so I was trying to sound as kosher as possible, and though I have trained for years (I even started thinking in English) loosing the accent is still somewhat of a struggle when there's almost no native speaker around to talk to.
 

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hugh_godolphin said:
Callate said:
hugh_godolphin said:
Well, did you think it was funny?
I smiled at a couple of points (Chess' backstory and the idea of a "one-move win") but I have to confess that mostly I was struggling too hard to understand what was being said to find it really funny.
Fuck. I'm really sorry to hear that. The audio really fucked it up. Also, there is the issue that English is not my native language, but I fucking hate having a foreign accent so I was trying to sound as kosher as possible, and though I have trained for years (I even started thinking in English) loosing the accent is still somewhat of a struggle when there's almost no native speaker around to talk to.
Sympthies. It's very difficult to become fluent in a different language, and I respect that you've been able to do so; I can personally stagger through some basics of a second language (Spanish) but don't consider myself anything like fluent.
 

hugh_godolphin

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Callate said:
hugh_godolphin said:
Callate said:
hugh_godolphin said:
Well, did you think it was funny?
I smiled at a couple of points (Chess' backstory and the idea of a "one-move win") but I have to confess that mostly I was struggling too hard to understand what was being said to find it really funny.
Fuck. I'm really sorry to hear that. The audio really fucked it up. Also, there is the issue that English is not my native language, but I fucking hate having a foreign accent so I was trying to sound as kosher as possible, and though I have trained for years (I even started thinking in English) loosing the accent is still somewhat of a struggle when there's almost no native speaker around to talk to.
Sympthies. It's very difficult to become fluent in a different language, and I respect that you've been able to do so; I can personally stagger through some basics of a second language (Spanish) but don't consider myself anything like fluent.
Thank you! It ain't easy, but it's a solid investment. If anything I can at least give lessons to make ends meet ;)
 

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"Chosen- Series Trailer": Interesting idea (choose the storyline by voting), and the cast- what we see of them- looks professional, as does the editing. The muffled audio and the brevity of each clip leaves me more than slightly at a loss as to what the whole thing is about, however, other than that it kind of looks like it wants to be "24".
Cheers for your thoughts. We are aiming for a 24ish feel but a bit more of a light hearted approach (not to the point of being comedy, but just fun to watch rather than 24's constant dark, intense mood). I have to admit, that's the first I've heard about audio being muffled. I'll have to check that out next time I get into the audio editing suite. My ears must be failing me, haha. Either that or its a case of; because I already know the dialogue, I hear it clearer than someone who's trying to grab every word for the first time.