Wacky Ahmadinejad does it again

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Participants at the 2009 conference against racism held in Geneva, Switzerland surely knew what they were getting into when they decided to invite Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

The wacky president didn't dissapoint and as soon as he took to the stage he made various offensive and inflammatory comments regarding Israel.

During his opening speech at the conference, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad implied that Palestinian territory had been taken by Israel "under the pretext of Jewish suffering". He stated that "military aggressions" had been used in the aftermath of World War II "to make an entire nation homeless" and that migrants had descended on Palestine from across the world and set up what he described as "a totally racist government".
Ahmadinejad also indicated his belief that this "most cruel and repressive racist regime" was an attempt at compensating for racism which had occurred in Europe.








The response was mixed, with some participants applauding. Within minutes of the speech's opening, delegates from at least thirty countries exited the room to return when he had completed his speech.
Delegates from some countries, including France, Slovenia and the United Kingdom, expressed their dissatisfaction with Ahmadinejad. Peter Gooderham, a British ambassador, described the President's speech as "offensive and inflammatory", insisting such comments had no place at this type of meeting.
France described it as a "hate speech". Andrej Logar, a Slovenian ambassador, said Ahmadinejad's remarks were "detrimental to the dignity of this conference".Ban Ki-Moon was dismayed at the incident, describing the words chosen by the President as being those that are used "to accuse, divide and even incite".

How ironic that such a hate speech was made at a conference aimed at solving the problem of worldwide racism and discrimination.
Even more ironic if one thinks that today is the birthday of one Adolf Hitler.
 

bodyklok

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I'd of faceplamed if I were at that conference, though not nessersarily at Ahmadinejad.
 

cainx10a

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Although I am only relying on what was reported in the CNN's article, I really don't see the language Ahmadinejab employed as being racist , he stated a hypothesis that many of those who didn't support the creation of the state of Israel, at least, where it's located, and how it was formed supports.

And how exactly is that Hate Speech, it's like anyone who says anything against Israel is anti-semite, it's the new weapon designed to block criticism, but it only work if the defendant is Israel.

He wasn't bashing Israelis for being Jews, he was simply stating that the process used to create the state was racist, the israelo-palestinian conflict as being racist, which it's obviously is.
 
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cainx10a said:
And how exactly is that Hate Speech, it's like anyone who says anything against Israel is anti-semite, it's the new weapon designed to block criticism, but it only work if the defendant is Israel.

He wasn't bashing Israelis for being Jews, he was simply stating that the process used to create the state was racist, the israelo-palestinian conflict as being racist, which it's obviously is.
You gotta remember, this is the guy that said he would blow Israel off the map.
 

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Woah! Today's Hitler's birthday? It's also Patriot's Day here in the Massachusetts. How...interesting.
 

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The infamous SCAMola said:
cainx10a said:
And how exactly is that Hate Speech, it's like anyone who says anything against Israel is anti-semite, it's the new weapon designed to block criticism, but it only work if the defendant is Israel.

He wasn't bashing Israelis for being Jews, he was simply stating that the process used to create the state was racist, the israelo-palestinian conflict as being racist, which it's obviously is.
You gotta remember, this is the guy that said he would blow Israel off the map.
While I believe that he didn't mean to employ such a language, or rather, he may have been speaking in a figurative approach about Israel (Some even mentioned that certain aspect of what he was trying to say was lost in translation), at least, his opinion should have been respected to an extent, and argued for or against.

Israel is a far beyond any 'developed' countries in the ME and stable. Only a fool could dream of getting rid of it. That's a fact. But that doesn't mean, a conference about racism, should ignore that the Israelo-Palestinian conflict is race-related and potentially the #1 source of creating extremists over there.
 

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What he said is techinicaly all true Israel was most definently founded on false terms, however its here now and we have to accept that. The man is probably quite insaine and dangerous but he knows what will happen to him and his people if he acts better to sacrifice one nation than to threaten the world.
 

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Danzorz said:
cainx10a said:
Although I am only relying on what was reported in the CNN's article, I really don't see the language Ahmadinejab employed as being racist , he stated a fact that many of those who didn't support the creation of the state of Israel, at least, where it's located, and how it was formed.

And how exactly is that Hate Speech, it's like anyone who says anything against Israel is anti-semite, it's like the new weapon designed to block criticism. He wasn't bashing Israelis for being Jews, he was simply stating that the process used to create the state was racist, the israelo-palestinian conflict as being racist, which it's obviously is.
Speaking as someone who had a Jewish farther in Lebanon, (who fought two wars), Egyptian grand parents, has 5 closely related Muslim cousins and is Jewish and have also been to both Tel Aviv and Beirut (Yes what a shit family backround). I can not express how wrong you are in every way.
I'll post a reply to this when I'm done face palming.
I'm very interested in that. I'm not saying I agree with Ahmadinejad, but saying that the Israeli government is racist doesn't at all sound like a racist comment. Yes it sounds like a hatefull comment, but racist? Not really. Where is the generalising of a race, or in this case a religion (jews). Where is the hatred of jews. I see a hatred against the Israeli government, not a hate against the jews, wich also live outside Isreal (obviously). Sure he may has them, but purely talking about these comments.
 

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The more people talk about this guy, the more he will talk and the bigger his audience will get. On the other hand, if he gets ignored, he will launch a nuke at someone. This dude is on a downward spiral that ends badly for him. Hopefully, the people of his country do get blamed for his rants and actions.
 

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It's pretty weak to just walk away in my opinion (and even more if you simply don't show up, like my country). It might be much more interesting to actually engage in a discussion with him. And, even though most he says is bullcrap, there is some truth in the fact that Palestinians that live in Israel (ouside of the West Bank and Gaza strip) are discriminated there and don't have the same rights as the Jewish immigrants.
 

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I don't think that's that bad. Considering how much I imagine Ahmadinejad hating Israel and Jews (with all his heart) this speech seems fairly controlled, if that's the worst he said. For a national leader, atleast. I wouldn't be surprised if he did much worse. I'm proud of him.
 

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Doug said:
The infamous SCAMola said:
Calobi said:
Woah! Today's Hitler's birthday? It's also Patriot's Day here in the States. How...interesting.
from Wikipedia: Adolf Hitler (20 April 1889 - 30 April 1945)
Spooky!
Today is apparently also the eve of Holocaust Remembrance Day, appropriately enough.

Semi-more on topic, I'm glad we decided the whole thing was a waste days before and decided to skip it.
 

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Yeah, this was to be expected...
I don't think continual damnation of Iran without any dialogue between governments is really going to aid the situation though... just let the hardliners in Iran get more support...
 

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Isn't Ban Ki-Moon the head of the United Nations? Nice job making fun of the head of the most prominent international diplomatic relations establishment today.

Also, this guy is a nut case. I remember when he went to Columbia and said that there were no homosexuals in Iran. Nyuk nyuk to that.
 

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you do realize there is some truth to what he is saying, although i dont know if hes the one who should be saying it.
 

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Much a-do about nothing.

He didn't even threaten to attack Israel?

No refresh of a holocaust denial? I mean, he acknowledged Jewish suffering. Isn't that a baby step forward for such a whackjob?

His commentary was insubstantial and unsurprising. I'm disappointed that he DIDN'T say anything newsworthy.
 

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Khell_Sennet said:
Seriously? There is a world leader called Ban Ki-Moon? Oh I am so going to nickname him Spanky Moon.

Anyhoo, who's bright idea was it to invite Ahmanjihad? The guy's more of a fucking nutter than Uwe Bole and Jack Thompson combined.
Otay, Pa-ey [/Buckwheat]
Does anyone mind if I approach this alleging it was some incredibly devious practical joke? Viewed that way, it's almost as awesome as it is offensive.

+1 to Danzorz on the whole Israel being screwed up but summoning Captain Islam being less than a great idea. Good post.