Wacky Ahmadinejad does it again

[Johnn Johnston]

Anyhoo, who's bright idea was it to invite Ahmanjihad? The guy's more of a fucking nutter than Uwe Bole and Jack Thompson combined.

Somehow, I doubt they'll be the party planner for next year's office do.

 

[GyroCaptain]

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[font color=green]Intolerance[/font]
[font color=red]Misogyny[/font]
[font color=blue]Anti-Semitism[/font]
[font color=brown]Theocracy[/font]
[font color=magenta]Insanity[/font]

By your powers combined, I am Captain Islam!

[small]Sorry for that, first thing that popped into my mind when I read "Captain Islam".[/small]

You are forgiven. A lot.

 

[Eiseman]

Oh, Ahmy!

*cue laughter and applause*

 

[Ryuzaki]

The more people talk about this guy, the more he will talk and the bigger his audience will get. On the other hand, if he gets ignored, he will launch a nuke at someone. This dude is on a downward spiral that ends badly for him. Hopefully, the people of his country do get blamed for his rants and actions.

I doubt that he has the power to do anything like that, even if Iran had any weapons even coming close to a nuclear missile.
The real power in Iran is in their Supreme Leader Sayyed Ali Khamenei.

 

[Zamn]

The response to this speech is a joke. It was a hate speech in the same way that anyone who criticised the killing of over a thousand Palestinian civilians in Gaza earlier this year is anti-Semitic. The response of American news outlets and people on an American-dominated forum such as this one demonstrate the complete unwilligness to allow any criticism of Israel in the United States.

I disagree with Ahmadinejad on many, many things but the assertion that Israel is a state founded on racism is a sound one. It's raison d'être is to be a Jewish state, not a multi-cultural state for Jews and Arabs alike. The Palestinians of the Gaza and the West Bank are not afforded any rights as Israeli citizens despite the fact that they live under effective Israeli occupation. Even the Arabs within Israel proper who are given citizenship are the victims of rampant institutionalised racism of the sort which would not have look out of place in the Deep South fourty years ago.

You may well disagree with my position or Ahmadinejad's on this on this but you should respect my right to hold it. This isn't a 'hate post', it's a criticism of Israel and should be treated as such.

 

[Arcade_Fire]

He's like a saturday morning cartoon villain, but without a spaceship... THAT WE KNOW OF.

 

[AbsoluteVirtue18]

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[font color=green]Intolerance[/font]
[font color=red]Misogyny[/font]
[font color=blue]Anti-Semitism[/font]
[font color=brown]Theocracy[/font]
[font color=magenta]Insanity[/font]

By your powers combined, I am Captain Islam!

[small]Sorry for that, first thing that popped into my mind when I read "Captain Islam".[/small]

You are forgiven. A lot.

That is friggan' hilarious!

Hey, a racist will be a racist. Trying to stop them is like trying to give the moon a tan because it's too pale and white.

 

[ElephantGuts]

I don't think that's that bad. Considering how much I imagine Ahmadinejad hating Israel and Jews (with all his heart) this speech seems fairly controlled, if that's the worst he said. For a national leader, atleast. I wouldn't be surprised if he did much worse. I'm proud of him.

Thats like lauding Trent Lott for not letting the n word slip during a political speech.

I didn't know who Trent Lott was until you said that and I looked him up just now, but yeah, exactly. It's better than him having said it, isn't it? That sort of self-control seems like an accomplishment to me.

 

[Lord_Ascendant]

+1 to Danzorz on the whole Israel being screwed up but summoning Captain Islam being less than a great idea. Good post.

[font color=green]Intolerance[/font]
[font color=red]Misogyny[/font]
[font color=blue]Anti-Semitism[/font]
[font color=brown]Theocracy[/font]
[font color=magenta]Insanity[/font]

By your powers combined, I am Captain Islam!

[small]Sorry for that, first thing that popped into my mind when I read "Captain Islam".[/small]

you sir, are Win sir

 

[internutt]

+1 to Danzorz on the whole Israel being screwed up but summoning Captain Islam being less than a great idea. Good post.

[font color=green]Intolerance[/font]
[font color=red]Misogyny[/font]
[font color=blue]Anti-Semitism[/font]
[font color=brown]Theocracy[/font]
[font color=magenta]Insanity[/font]

By your powers combined, I am Captain Islam!

[small]Sorry for that, first thing that popped into my mind when I read "Captain Islam".[/small]

you sir, are Win sir

I seriously believe I have now seen everything...

 

[wewontdie11]

On the news I heard him say something that roughly translated as him stating the war in Iraq was caused by Jews. How this nut job got anywhere near a position of influence in politics is beyond me.

 

[Zamn]

But the real point is that this conference was to be a measure against racism, to which Captain Islam completely ignored and spouted a cliffs-notes version of his usual tirade.

The point being the tirade wasn't racist itself, and at an anti-racism conference raising the issue of racism in Israel isn't necessarily an invalid thing to do. I wouldn't have done it the way he did but I wouldn't do a lot of things the way he does.

Israel's leader did not come in and sputter off about Iran, at least there is no mention of it. So I'm going to assume that they came there at least willing to give friendly relations a try. Iran did not give the same courtesy. And the whole event wasn't supposed to be a forum for their retarded fight.

Israel didn't show up at all because Iran was attending so I think we can be fairly sure they are not willing to give relations a try. And if Israel did come in and complain about anti-semitism in Iran that wouldn't necessarily have been a bad thing either.

On the news I heard him say something that roughly translated as him stating the war in Iraq was caused by Jews. How this nut job got anywhere near a position of influence in politics is beyond me.

Same way that George Bush, Stephen Hitler Harper, or so-ronery Kim Jong Il did... Gain support with fanatics, lunatics, or idiots, and seize power when it comes your way.

He didn't seize power, he was elected democratically. I'm no fan of the man (as an atheist and a socialist I'm not big into ultra-conservative religious zealots) but he is the victim of a slur campaign in the Western and particularly the American media. An awful lot of what he says is intentionally taken out of context and misconstrued. Again, this isn't to say I agree with him very much, but he's considerably less unstable than generally portrayed.

 

[Inverse Skies]

Unfortunately, with a summit made up of so many differing countries and opinions this sort of thing is bound to happen all the time. It's been happening right throughout, like when Krushchev managed to break up a UN meeting by repeatedly tapping his foot (or something along those lines). The speech is obviously inappropraite and detrimental to the idea behind the summit but I can understand where it comes from.

 

[Lord Kofun]

He never ceases to amaze.

 

[Inverse Skies]

It's not hard to understand where it comes from... It comes from Captain Islam!

Wuahahahaha!

Lol, I do like what you've done with the colours there, quite amusing.

 

[RebelRising]

The response to this speech is a joke. It was a hate speech in the same way that anyone who criticised the killing of over a thousand Palestinian civilians in Gaza earlier this year is anti-Semitic. The response of American news outlets and people on an American-dominated forum such as this one demonstrate the complete unwilligness to allow any criticism of Israel in the United States.

I disagree with Ahmadinejad on many, many things but the assertion that Israel is a state founded on racism is a sound one. It's raison d'être is to be a Jewish state, not a multi-cultural state for Jews and Arabs alike. The Palestinians of the Gaza and the West Bank are not afforded any rights as Israeli citizens despite the fact that they live under effective Israeli occupation. Even the Arabs within Israel proper who are given citizenship are the victims of rampant institutionalised racism of the sort which would not have look out of place in the Deep South fourty years ago.

You may well disagree with my position or Ahmadinejad's on this on this but you should respect my right to hold it. This isn't a 'hate post', it's a criticism of Israel and should be treated as such.

I am completely with you on this. Having Jewish heritage myself, I would never marginalize the shit the hebrew people have been through, but now it's all just a scheme to guilt the Western world into advancing the Jewish master race. Between the Israel lobby and the possible assassination of JFK by Mossad, it seems that, instead of just turning their backs to that region altogether, they're constantly dragged in to destroy one Arab country after another. Have you seen Munich? I don't dislike Spielberg, but that was just plain pro-Israeli propaganda.

I think Ahmadinejad is as crazy and hateful as the next person, but he's, well, kind of saying something that needs to be said.

 

[Syntax Error]

+1 to Danzorz on the whole Israel being screwed up but summoning Captain Islam being less than a great idea. Good post.

[font color=green]Intolerance[/font]
[font color=red]Misogyny[/font]
[font color=blue]Anti-Semitism[/font]
[font color=brown]Theocracy[/font]
[font color=magenta]Insanity[/font]

By your powers combined, I am Captain Islam!

[small]Sorry for that, first thing that popped into my mind when I read "Captain Islam".[/small]

You, kind sir, has won the thread.

 

[Inverse Skies]

Oh I'm having so much fun with that picture right now. Probably gonna be up all night tweaking with it, or working on another one.

I'd quite like to see the results of such a tweaking.

 

[Ushario]

I like how Danzorz jumped in to declare this mans speech as being racist, whilst obviously ignoring anything factual, and spouting an argument along the lines of "Yea well im a Jew so don't say anything bad about us or you are anti-semetic".

Israel was founded in a racist manner, thats a true statement. Yes the British were involved, and they shouldn't have done what they did. Its too late for that now.

His comment on "most racist and oppresive regime" is obviously only a part of a sentence, and thus isn't in context. If it was "Israel is a most racist and oppresive regime and something needs to be done about it" then you couldn't say that he was accusing Israel of being worse than Nazi Germany. He is making a statement, which in above 'supposed' context I would believe is true.

I dislike Israel for the way in which it was founded and for the way that it treats the people of Palestine. I have no issue with Jews, until they start spouting that anti-semetic crap as soon as someone says something against Israel.

My nation doesn't label you a racist for disliking its methods, practices, and/or historical actions, so when yours tries to label me they can go get screwed.

 

[NeutralDrow]

The more people talk about this guy, the more he will talk and the bigger his audience will get. On the other hand, if he gets ignored, he will launch a nuke at someone. This dude is on a downward spiral that ends badly for him. Hopefully, the people of his country do get blamed for his rants and actions.

I doubt that he has the power to do anything like that, even if Iran had any weapons even coming close to a nuclear missile.
The real power in Iran is in their Supreme Leader Sayyed Ali Khamenei.

Shoot, you beat me to it. Those college Political Science classes are good for something.

Yes, the president of Iran has almost no power; he makes certain appointments, draws up the budget, and that's pretty much it. And even both of those are subject to the Supreme Leader and Guardian Council's approval.

I love Ahmadinejad's insistence on the whole Israel thing. It's ironic, almost like he knows that all those Sunni-led countries are more wary of him than of Israel (and of the Shia, pretty much only Hezbollah agrees with Tehran), and he's trying to speak louder to compensate...