Warhammer/Tabletop gaming thread

[Wazzelbe]

Damn. I was going to say that I liked the video game and the tabletop looks fun (if expensive), but you guys win.
Regardless, I never really see many references to it on this site or anything. It seems kinda underrated, to me. More armies, innovative ideas, etc... don't know why it's not doing better in the gaming world. Because Blizzard's pretty much on the scene?
Who copied who in that deal, do you know? They look too similar to be original ideas in respect to each other. I'm guessing Blizzard copied and did a REALLY GOOD JOB or something.

 

[The Reverend]

i have two (relativly)small arimies for 40k that i use whith cut down versions of the rules for quick games with my friends, the two forces are space marines and tyranids.

i also have a very large tyranid force that i have painted only for show

p.s. this is the nerdiest thread i have ever seen and i have seen the super powers one

You're posting on a Video Game forum. You don't hold the Cool high-ground here. That belongs to no man.

And if the Eldar didn't screw up the warp, it just wouldn't be as fun. Slaanesh knows how to throw one hell of a party.

 

[Saskwach]

No they really didn't. I'm saying the Eldar gave them a challenge for a bit because the necrons were disorganised, then before they could get organised the eldar royally fucked up the warp and the C'tan decided "Screw this shit I'm going to bed. Wake me when things are interesting." So more of a "we'll be back and kick your ass" then a "damn, you guys had us beat."

See!! It's all the Eldar's damn fault! If it weren't for them, there wouldn't be the Warp. If it weren't for them, there wouldn't be Slaanesh! It's all their bloody fault

Well you're mostly right there. It was Eldar and Co, all the races created by the Old ONes but since the Eldar are the only ones still prominent they get the flak. Oh, and Slaanesh was all their fault. Decadent bastards.

p.s. this is the nerdiest thread i have ever seen and i have seen the super powers one

GW creates a brand of nerd only challenged in faith and zeal by Trekkies. We win on points though because the setting is presented in a tabletop battle game while the trekkies at least watch Star Trek on tv. That's semi-resepectable.

 

[CannikinMK2]

I was recently going to pick up Mech Warrior miniatures, something I've been meaning to do for a long time but now finally have the money for, only to find that the entire game has just been discontinued. I was so psyched for it I'm not sure I really want to play anything else.

 

[Saskwach]

I was thinking of getting back into 40K, but is it me, or has it become even more expensive over the last couple of years? And they've got rid of their bits and bobs mail order system. How the hell am I supposed to convert my own Chaos Warlord and his retinue when a box of models is seemingly worth a pound of flesh, and I can't get hold of gubbins to convert them with?

No it's not you at all and I totally agree on the conversion front. Conversion was the only part of the modelling/painting process I enjoyed but it was so expensive that I rarely did it. GW's loss; most people aren't stupid enough to buy extra models for a certain part when they can just go without. Bits, though, would sell like hotcakes.
As for GW's pricing scheme, I've heard a fair argument there (unless there's some demand factors I'm not getting) and it goes like this. So terminators cost X dollars (I forget, around $55 AU say). This is the cost of a standard plastic 10 man SM squad for 5 plastic miniatures. Bwuh? So maybe GW is pricing based on points cost or combat effectivess. Fine, but why then is a Rhino about the same price? The huge amount of plastic involved in construction. But we've already established that GW doesn't price based on this factor.
I'm anot bitching about the big bad GW here. I understand GW will price as they think they can make maximum profit. That's fair. But a lot of people (especially new players you should be bringing in) will see these prices and blanch. I know I did.
Sorry j-e-f-f-e-r-s, I think I hijacked your post for my own ends.

 

[Saskwach]

I was thinking of getting back into 40K, but is it me, or has it become even more expensive over the last couple of years? And they've got rid of their bits and bobs mail order system. How the hell am I supposed to convert my own Chaos Warlord and his retinue when a box of models is seemingly worth a pound of flesh, and I can't get hold of gubbins to convert them with?

No it's not you at all and I totally agree on the conversion front. Conversion was the only part of the modelling/painting process I enjoyed but it was so expensive that I rarely did it. GW's loss; most people aren't stupid enough to buy extra models for a certain part when they can just go without. Bits, though, would sell like hotcakes.
As for GW's pricing scheme, I've heard a fair argument there (unless there's some demand factors I'm not getting) and it goes like this. So terminators cost X dollars (I forget, around $55 AU say). This is the cost of a standard plastic 10 man SM squad for 5 plastic miniatures. Bwuh? So maybe GW is pricing based on points cost or combat effectivess. Fine, but why then is a Rhino about the same price? The huge amount of plastic involved in construction. But we've already established that GW doesn't price based on this factor.
I'm anot bitching about the big bad GW here. I understand GW will price as they think they can make maximum profit. That's fair. But a lot of people (especially new players you should be bringing in) will see these prices and blanch. I know I did.
Sorry j-e-f-f-e-r-s, I think I hijacked your post for my own ends.

No worries. And half my rant at least is a little unfounded, as I've just discovered there are a large number of websites that do a roaring trade in Warhammer bits. Still sucks that GW themselves can't be arsed to do it anymore.

And I think you've perfectly highlighted the problems with GW's pricing system. The thing that always annoyed me was the fact that the Rule Book cost £40. I mean, yes it's a very hefty tome, and it has lots of pretty pictures, but 40 quid? I know shops that could sell you half a library for that.

I have a little secret. I didn't buy the book and never once referred to it. How? I read a whole bunch of White Dwarves obsessively and picked up the esoterica from stuck-up teenagers who delighted in informing me of Rule X that would allow them to wtfpwn my forces. Luckily my encyclopaedic knowledge of the rules helped me give better than I got. This isn't me telling you to attempt the same feat as my bygone teenage self (I couldn't and more importantly wouldn't try this again) but rather me showing off.
Look at the size of my...knowledge.

 

[zen5887]

I've found that shopping at places that arnt a games workshop is the way to go. Sure the range isnt gonna be as good but you'll end up getting stuff for $10 less.

Now GW arnt all bad.. The starter set that they have now, its got a tactical squad, gene stealers and some other shooty 'nids + terrain + rules (it only has the core rules..none of the other stuff thats in the big thick one) all for $85.

Ha now I got this at another game shop and got all that PLUS paints and a paintbrush for $80.. I think that worked out quite well =P

I think im gonna pick up a Predetor today ^^

 

[General Ma Chao]

Due to the Imperial bloat at my club, I'm thinking about starting a Tau army when I finish my Salamanders.

 

[Apone]

There's a double page in the new English White Dwarf of a Space Marine Necron fight (artwork) that says:

A New Era Begins

Think this is them gearing us up for the announcement of 5th Ed. Apparently the store managers are going on a seminar soon to get their first look too.

 

[Saskwach]

There's a double page in the new English White Dwarf of a Space Marine Necron fight (artwork) that says:

A New Era Begins

Think this is them gearing us up for the announcement of 5th Ed. Apparently the store managers are going on a seminar soon to get their first look too.

How old is 4th ed anyway? My total guesstimation says it's being brought to an end much faster than 3rd.
Wild speculation on why, anyone?

 

[Apone]

Money!
The new edition is going to shake up army structure as only troops choices will count as scoring. So more troop choices bought re-structuring etc. Sell more products and the new armies which are built around the new rules.
My guess is that it will be on pre-sale at Games Day UK like all the big new releases (not exactly hard to guess i know).

 

[Saskwach]

Money!
The new edition is going to shake up army structure as only troops choices will count as scoring. So more troop choices bought re-structuring etc. Sell more products and the new armies which are built around the new rules.
My guess is that it will be on pre-sale at Games Day UK like all the big new releases (not exactly hard to guess i know).

I said wild speculation, not accurate.

 

[Easykill]

Hmmm.... Never played. Wouldn't mind trying, but I don't have anyone to play with. All my friends like videogames, but rarely play other types. I enjoyed D&D the only time I tried it; but I just never had the opportunity to do it again. Kind of sucks.

 

[PurpleRain]

No they really didn't. I'm saying the Eldar gave them a challenge for a bit because the necrons were disorganised, then before they could get organised the eldar royally fucked up the warp and the C'tan decided "Screw this shit I'm going to bed. Wake me when things are interesting." So more of a "we'll be back and kick your ass" then a "damn, you guys had us beat."

See!! It's all the Eldar's damn fault! If it weren't for them, there wouldn't be the Warp. If it weren't for them, there wouldn't be Slaanesh! It's all their bloody fault

Well you're mostly right there. It was Eldar and Co, all the races created by the Old ONes but since the Eldar are the only ones still prominent they get the flak. Oh, and Slaanesh was all their fault. Decadent bastards.

(Sniggers) Suckers. Now you all have to live with the consiquences while we sit back in our maze of webway portals safe from harm.

 

[smallharmlesskitten]

Go the Doom Brigade

(my custom army)

landspeeders, bikes, groundtroops, whhels covered in blood,windscreens as well

total pwnage painting of renegade space marines

 

[Apone]

http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/extras/countdown.htm

Found this on Bell of Lost Souls

 

[Saskwach]

http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/extras/countdown.htm

Found this on Bell of Lost Souls

This feeling... is it anticipation or indigestion?

No they really didn't. I'm saying the Eldar gave them a challenge for a bit because the necrons were disorganised, then before they could get organised the eldar royally fucked up the warp and the C'tan decided "Screw this shit I'm going to bed. Wake me when things are interesting." So more of a "we'll be back and kick your ass" then a "damn, you guys had us beat."

See!! It's all the Eldar's damn fault! If it weren't for them, there wouldn't be the Warp. If it weren't for them, there wouldn't be Slaanesh! It's all their bloody fault

Well you're mostly right there. It was Eldar and Co, all the races created by the Old ONes but since the Eldar are the only ones still prominent they get the flak. Oh, and Slaanesh was all their fault. Decadent bastards.

(Sniggers) Suckers. Now you all have to live with the consiquences while we sit back in our maze of webway portals safe from harm.

*facepalms*
This one has so much to learn.

 

[Undead Dragon King]

I've always been an "alien-lover" in KOTOR terms in the 40K universe. The Imperium has just become too big and convoluted. I've got about 2,000 points of Tau, and my army kicks ass. I've always liked the Tau Empire the best. They're the valiant underdogs of the galaxy that always come out stronger and wiser despite all the odds. They aren't prodded into battle like the Guardsmen, and they don't have to worry about arbitrary commissarial executions on the field.

Still, even ripping people apart with pulse fire and railguns can get a bit boring after a while, so I'm thinking about starting up an Eldar army. I'm really excited it. They may be tough for a beginner, but their aspect warriors are the most deadly forces in the galaxy if given their specialization. Also, many Tau tactics can be transferred to Eldar.

 

[irishdelinquent]

I've always been an "alien-lover" in KOTOR terms in the 40K universe. The Imperium has just become too big and convoluted. I've got about 2,000 points of Tau, and my army kicks ass. I've always liked the Tau Empire the best. They're the valiant underdogs of the galaxy that always come out stronger and wiser despite all the odds. They aren't prodded into battle like the Guardsmen, and they don't have to worry about arbitrary commissarial executions on the field.

Still, even ripping people apart with pulse fire and railguns can get a bit boring after a while, so I'm thinking about starting up an Eldar army. I'm really excited it. They may be tough for a beginner, but their aspect warriors are the most deadly forces in the galaxy if given their specialization. Also, many Tau tactics can be transferred to Eldar.

No! Do not support the darkness that is the Eldar! Give in to your inner predator, and give the tyranids a try. The good news about that is with 5th edition coming out soon, you'll be able to get a lot of the Battle for Macragge starter sets for cheap.

...on second thought, stick with the Eldar. Leave the inexpensive Tyranids for me and my fellow Hive-Minders.

In all seriousness though, you should try the Eldar. They are a nasty army if they're played correctly.

 

[Singing Gremlin]

Ooo, hadn't noticed this. Dark Eldar all the way baby. Them an orks. I dunno!

Incubi are among my favourite units ever, but I once sat through a chaos Obliterator (I believe it's called. Demolisher maybe? Basically a large chappy covered in guns.) shattering my tank forces single handedly. I cried.