WARNING MASS EFFECT 2 ENDING SPOILERS

[icame]

I've never let anyone die, never needed a guide either. Its pretty easy, you just upgrade your ship and don;t make retarded choices on who to do certain jobs.

 

[jad4400]

Had Jack die on my first playthru, but everybody survived in the second run.

Same here, I was going to do her loyalty quest after Legions, but then my crew got abducted, so it was off to the Collector base.

 

[cystemic]

On sentinel i didn't lose anyone, on adept i lost mordin grunt and tali

 

[Roland07]

Lost nobody (the second time, lost Mordin the first) and destroyed the Collector Base.

Call it blind idealism all you want, The Illusive Man cannot be trusted.

I decided to keep the Collector's base as a "fuck you" to BioWare because I had gone through the game doing nothing but Paragon choices and I was sick of it. It was hardly "moral choice", it was just blindly picking the Paragon choice for "+4 Paragon", so I chose the thing that made sense to me which was to keep the Collector's base and see what we could learn from it.

But noooooooo, everyone at the ship was like "That wasn't a good thing to do! But you're our commander, so I trust you." Even the loyal Cerberus recruits (Jacob, Miranda, etc...) went "The Illusive Man can't be trusted," which I thought was supreme BS.

EDIT: Oh, and I only got "+7 Renegade" points for keeping the base. I really have to wonder how much of an impact it's going to have in Mass Effect 3.

I don't particularity mind any of the Illusive Man's methods, but I'm pro-alien, and I don't really care if 99% of human life is wiped out so long the majority of sentient life can be saved by the sacrifice. The Illusive Man directly states all he cares about is human interests. Given the option, I think he'd use the Collector base to conquer and subjugate all other alien races once the reapers are dealt with (if the reapers are dealt with). That being said, I did hand it over in two of my games, so we'll see.

 

[Escapefromwhatever]

Everyone survived with me. Do your loyalty missions next time. I did lose Kelly, though. It was either lose her or do Legion's loyalty mission.

 

[CliveMurdoc626]

Mordin died even though I completed his loyalty mission but survived if I brought him with me for the final fight.

 

[The Night Shade]

First time:Legion and Jack
Second time:Jack and thane
Third time:Tali and Grunt

 

[Huupertti]

everyone survived on my first try..

 

[michiehoward]

My very first playthrough I lost no one.
My second, Tali and Mordrin.

This is how you don't lose ppl.

First, upgrade your ship.

Second, complete all loyalty missions.

Third, while picking teams and secondary leaders, make sure you have group with offensive and defensive. Don't take your two best offensive teammates to the final boss because the rest of your team will need them as they are trying to hold the line.

When the game asks you to pick secondary leaders pick teammates that have actual leader experience.

I thought since I breezed through it the first time I could piddle around the second time, dumb ass move since I will have to make a master Shepard for 1,2, to bring into 3.

 

[michiehoward]

Mordin died even though I completed his loyalty mission but survived if I brought him with me for the final fight.

Send him with the survivors back to the ship.

Since so many people did such a good job keeping everyone alive through the suicide run, let's take a look at how it could have also ended up...

Now see that should get a achievement the "EPIC FUCKING FAILURE" achievement seems appropriate.

 

[Banzai_Kitty]

Playing on the PC through the final battle to get things "right" and have everyone survive, each time after defeating the reaper there seems to be a glimpse of The Illusive Man as a window closes in front of him as if he was watching from somewhere above. Looking around, there didn't seem to be anywhere for this window to be. Is this some weird glitch or does it happen?

 

[Flig]

First run I lost Mordin(I was pissed) because of that whole armor rating nonsense. Second run I didn't lose anybody. Third run, I fixed it(via some digging on the internet) so that only Kasumi and Morinth survived. Heh, the universe if screwed on that character.

 

[Twilight_guy]

Everybody lived. In fact nobody has ever died on a suicide mission with me. Why? Because I make probability my *****.

 

[Ladette]

Everybody lived, on every play through. With an import from ME1 you don't have to do any planet scanning, and at that point only intentionally neglecting ship upgrades will get anyone killed.

 

[gundamrx101]

Because I am tank that knows no bounds, everyone lived.

 

[Jumplion]

Lost nobody (the second time, lost Mordin the first) and destroyed the Collector Base.

Call it blind idealism all you want, The Illusive Man cannot be trusted.

I decided to keep the Collector's base as a "fuck you" to BioWare because I had gone through the game doing nothing but Paragon choices and I was sick of it. It was hardly "moral choice", it was just blindly picking the Paragon choice for "+4 Paragon", so I chose the thing that made sense to me which was to keep the Collector's base and see what we could learn from it.

But noooooooo, everyone at the ship was like "That wasn't a good thing to do! But you're our commander, so I trust you." Even the loyal Cerberus recruits (Jacob, Miranda, etc...) went "The Illusive Man can't be trusted," which I thought was supreme BS.

EDIT: Oh, and I only got "+7 Renegade" points for keeping the base. I really have to wonder how much of an impact it's going to have in Mass Effect 3.

I don't particularity mind any of the Illusive Man's methods, but I'm pro-alien, and I don't really care if 99% of human life is wiped out so long the majority of sentient life can be saved by the sacrifice. The Illusive Man directly states all he cares about is human interests. Given the option, I think he'd use the Collector base to conquer and subjugate all other alien races once the reapers are dealt with (if the reapers are dealt with). That being said, I did hand it over in two of my games, so we'll see.

Yeah, but if that ever happened I could just slap him a new one, though I doubt BioWare would implement that option. It was really annoying because I was trying to chose the options that I would do in that situation, but I figured out that there was absolutely no reason to be neutral as you don't get any benefits without being all bad/good. So, I just pressed the top choice every single time and it pissed me off. At the end, I said "fuck it" and chose to keep the base, and all of a sudden everyone became bipolar and went "I don't agree with what you did!" as if somehow my previous actions were null void.

So, yeah, screw "good and evil" gameplay aspects that try to push for "moral choices". I'm pretty sure those are two incompatible mechanics.

 

[Gill Kaiser]

I don't understand why someone wouldn't upgrade their ship... making the wrong decisions during the Suicide Mission I can understand, but not upgrading your ship before you jump just makes no sense.

 

[Undead Dragon King]

Now see that should get a achievement the "EPIC FUCKING FAILURE" achievement seems appropriate.

yep. the Illusive Man's apparent facepalm pic for the video pretty much summed up my perspective on that suicide mission.

 

[Akalistos]

I completed Mass Effect 2 today and I've lost 4 members of my team. Tali, Legion, Thane and Jack. Three died on ship while Tali died during mid fight. What's your experience?

Well I lost Legion, Jacob and Zaeed in what was going to be my transfered Shepard, but I'm going to be doing another one now that I have Kasumi. We'll see how well that one goes, though I imagine it will be pretty good since by now I know most of the ins and outs of why people die in the final mission.

How the hell did you lose that much crew in the final mission. I only lost Jack on my first try and good riddance I say, she was a *****. The Normandy, Characters and most of the crew survived.

 

[Irony's Acolyte]

Well I lost Legion, Jacob and Zaeed in what was going to be my transfered Shepard, but I'm going to be doing another one now that I have Kasumi. We'll see how well that one goes, though I imagine it will be pretty good since by now I know most of the ins and outs of why people die in the final mission.

How the hell did you lose that much crew in the final mission. I only lost Jack on my first try and good riddance I say, she was a *****. The Normandy, Characters and most of the crew survived.

Zaeed wasn't loyal to me. So when I sent him as the first fire squad leader, he ended up getting Legion (the hacker) killed. I then used Thane as the bubble during the swarm area and as such Jacob was lost. Finally I lost Zaeed at the hold the line area due to him not being loyal. I'll admit that this wasn't my first time through and I was seeing what would happen if I choose Thane as the bubble (had Samara first time).