Watch Dogs Will Require Uplay on PC - Update

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dorkrock2

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They're doing this simply because they can, and it's a shameless way to promote their proprietary client. Watch_Dogs has enough hype that most people will get it regardless of what nonsense they have to go through to play it. I don't think Ubisoft cares about the negligible loss of sales to people boycotting their use of Uplay.
 

karma9308

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phew! Was almost thinking of getting this game. Thanks Ubisoft! You know how to warn a customer!
 

unstabLized

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NLS said:
unstabLized said:
On the other hand, if I want to re-send the question, I have to download the game again, just to look at the CD Key because for some reason Steam doesn't let you look at your own CD Key until the game is downloaded.
Just start the game download from Steam, pause it after 5 seconds, and now you can magically access the CD-key by right-clicking the game in your library. No need to download the full game all over again, and no need to thank me :)
Ah! Magic! Thanks! At least I can submit a question again and hope this time that it actually goes through. I wish I could just re-buy it, But.. Anyway, thanks :3
 

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Steven Bogos said:
It is surprising because South Park: The Stick of Truth, which is another major Ubisoft title, did not require the service.
I suppose, but Watch Dogs is an internally owned IP. South Park not so much.

And, even though The Stick of Truth has had a very successful launch, I'm not entirely convinced Ubisoft saw it as a "major release". Not in the vein of games like Assassin's Creed, Tom Clancy, and Far Cry, anyway.

I wasn't taking a jab at you nor the news post. It's just that given the nature of this release Ubisoft requiring Uplay doesn't surprise me in the least. So I was confused as to why it seemed surprising to so many.

I know several who've been anticipating the game and who were angry to learn that it required Uplay. I thought the Uplay requirement would have been expected.
 

lacktheknack

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Leviano said:
Who actually thought this wasn't going to be the case? I mean honestly? Did people freak when BF4 needed origin?. It's a Ubisoft game, of course they will use Uplay.
People live in La La Land. They saw that South Park (a non-tentpole) didn't need UPlay, so they immediately (naively) think this means that Watch Dogs (tentpole) wouldn't need it either.

To compare to EA, there's a reason games like Mirror's Edge don't need Origin, but Titanfall does, but people don't want to grasp it. -__-
 

Amir Kondori

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Despite them ditching the always online nonsense I still don't trust Ubisoft, I don't like UPlay, and I still just do not buy their games.
 

alfrodul

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Pass.

No matter how good a game is, I will never again buy something that requires Uplay.

ACIV is a gorgeous game. I bought it for my wife this past winter to help her with her winter depression. We've jumped through every hoop that Ubisoft demands for connecting to Uplay on their forums and every other forum I could find for it. We can connect and play our 70+ other Steam games from a dozen different non-Ubisoft developers. We can connect and play all of our MMOs. After everything, Ubisoft simply said "submit a help ticket"... and we did... and after three or four months they haven't even replied.
 

Weaver

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Still really not sure why Ubi even bothers publishing on the PC if they hate it so much.
 

Elberik

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We, the consumers, are the ones making this more trouble than it is worth. There's nothing inherently WRONG with Uplay, frankly I've had more problems with Steam. If there's a bad connection it's more likely something the Internet provider than anything else. The only real difference between Uplay & Steam is that Gabe Newell didn't make Uplay.
 

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Wow, I'm astonished by how many massive babies there are here. It's not like they're making horrible cut content dlc, they're not engaging disgusting business practices, they're not buying up your favorite devhouses and then firing the employees. They're just making it use uplay.

I'm not trying to defend their decision here, I'm not trying to say that they should, I'm saying all of you guys have the most absurd priority list. It's essentially why most people don't take gamers seriously.
 

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alfrodul said:
Pass.

No matter how good a game is, I will never again buy something that requires Uplay.

ACIV is a gorgeous game. I bought it for my wife this past winter to help her with her winter depression. We've jumped through every hoop that Ubisoft demands for connecting to Uplay on their forums and every other forum I could find for it. We can connect and play our 70+ other Steam games from a dozen different non-Ubisoft developers. We can connect and play all of our MMOs. After everything, Ubisoft simply said "submit a help ticket"... and we did... and after three or four months they haven't even replied.
I always heard horror stories about Uplay but when I got Far Cry 3 & Blood Dragon I didn't encounter any issues. I bought the games through Steam, installed them, followed the link to install Uplay, set it up, registered the games, & not a single thing went wrong.
I've had more problems with Steam than Uplay.
 

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Weaver said:
Still really not sure why Ubi even bothers publishing on the PC if they hate it so much.
Because the PC portion of the gaming industry is growing. Uplay isn't a bad service, it's just vogue to hate on Not-Steam clients.
 

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you know, i wouldnt mind so much if they actually made Uplay GOOD, you know ubi, im probably one of the very few people who think this, but i believe your uplay thingie has potential, free DLC for doing achivements? cool, silly mii ripoff thing? cool

those are nice ideas and i can get behind them, but please, make the thing run better, put more games in your store page and dont you fucking dare keep showing me ads on the stupid thing
 

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Elberik said:
Weaver said:
Still really not sure why Ubi even bothers publishing on the PC if they hate it so much.
Because the PC portion of the gaming industry is growing. Uplay isn't a bad service, it's just vogue to hate on Not-Steam clients.
Pretty sure the two weeks straight where I couldn't play Anno 2070 because the severs were just randomly down all the time makes it a bad service.
 

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Will updates require Uplay? Uplay simply won't connect to their download servers on my computer, if it's the once off registration I may actually be able to play this.
 

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A while ago I made the decision to buy Far Cry Blood Dragon off Steam rather than ps3 because I wanted the soundtrack legally. Idiotic mistake. Open Steam, wait for updates, open game, open Uplay, then play game also deal with Uplay throwing notifications, and bullshit in my face for trophies and crap. The first install took literally hours after I downloaded all the data through Steam. I don't know why I ever bother with services other than GoG or consoles

kortin said:
Wow, I'm astonished by how many massive babies there are here. It's not like they're making horrible cut content dlc, they're not engaging disgusting business practices, they're not buying up your favorite devhouses and then firing the employees. They're just making it use uplay.

I'm not trying to defend their decision here, I'm not trying to say that they should, I'm saying all of you guys have the most absurd priority list. It's essentially why most people don't take gamers seriously.
It's not a "gamer" thing, it's a pc enthusiasts thing. People like to have control over their systems, especially people spent a lot of money on their rigs, and don't like having content providers give them arbitrary limits to when they can play their games. It's more crap running on your computer. Do you have a car? Imagine if every time you got gas, they only give it to you unless you had big sticker with the company's logo plastered on it and you had to do this for for every franchise. I don't care if it's harmless, I don't want junk on my system. And then there's the inherent security risk that comes with giving your info to a bunch of companies. I had to sign up for Uplay to use a game I legally purchased and how was I replayed? With an email a few months later saying their servers were hacked which means people could have gotten into my email account. It's this "I don't care" attitude that got pc gaming all other forms of digital media into this bullshit situation in the first place
 

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I think what everyone is forgetting about DRM is that if they focus on making a good experience for you to play the gaming rather then focusing on prevention you from stealing it, you'll definitely steal it.

One thing that has been proven through out history is that if you give people the freedom to be criminals they will be criminals 100% of the time. If Ubisoft doesn't use UPlay to assert their dominance over yo... I mean protect their property, then you would definitely 100% illegally download this content because you are a criminal. Also its proven science that rules never ever in human history have ever lead to an increase in crime or even slightly encouraged in any way ever. These are facts people.
 

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Weaver said:
Still really not sure why Ubi even bothers publishing on the PC if they hate it so much.
because the PC crowd is the most profitable, as evident by financial reports.

Elberik said:
Because the PC portion of the gaming industry is growing. Uplay isn't a bad service, it's just vogue to hate on Not-Steam clients.
Uplay is a bad service. Origin isnt a bad service. in some regards its even better than steam. Uplay on the other hand is just unstable DRM while not as catastrophic, still closer to GFWL than Steam.


kortin said:
they're not engaging disgusting business practices,
the fact of online DRM in form of UPlay begs to differ

Kameburger said:
I think what everyone is forgetting about DRM is that if they focus on making a good experience for you to play the gaming rather then focusing on prevention you from stealing it, you'll definitely steal it.

One thing that has been proven through out history is that if you give people the freedom to be criminals they will be criminals 100% of the time. If Ubisoft doesn't use UPlay to assert their dominance over yo... I mean protect their property, then you would definitely 100% illegally download this content because you are a criminal. Also its proven science that rules never ever in human history have ever lead to an increase in crime or even slightly encouraged in any way ever. These are facts people.
wow i was about to make a rebuttal till i realized this was sarcasm. well played sir.
 

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Kameburger said:
I think what everyone is forgetting about DRM is that if they focus on making a good experience for you to play the gaming rather then focusing on prevention you from stealing it, you'll definitely steal it.

One thing that has been proven through out history is that if you give people the freedom to be criminals they will be criminals 100% of the time. If Ubisoft doesn't use UPlay to assert their dominance over yo... I mean protect their IP, then you would definitely 100% illegally download this content because you are a criminal. Also its proven science that rules never ever in human history have ever lead to an increase in crime or even slightly encouraged in any way ever. These are facts people.
Complete and utter bullshit.

DRM doesn't stop piracy, there's several titles I'm waiting for to get discounted before I grab them, that I could pirate right now if I was so inclined.

GOG sells nothing but DRM-free games and does well, and I have a bunch of games from them.

Make it worth the money, make it convenient, and people will buy it.

Make the pirated version superior to the retail version due to DRM and you have a problem. There's plenty of games I haven't bought because of the DRM despite wanting the game and them being on reasonable sale(particularly GFWL or Tages, which for example have stoped me from buying Dark Souls and Dead Space 2 respectively). My backlog of legal games is large enough that I don't resort to piracy though.

With the exception of multiplayer centered titles, pretty much everything is available pirated, but they still sell, so your 100% number is pure unadulterated fantasy.

EDIT: Looks like I fell prey to Poe's Law.