Watchmen 2 Could Be in the Cards
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I agree wholeheartedly with the basic theme of this thread. Watchmen is more or less a rebellion against what was the superhero narrative norm of the time, showing complexity and darkness and harsh realism where before there was just "POW!" and "ZOK!" and a total lack of moral ambiguity. To add to it and sensationalize it and franchise it out and turn it into a breakfast cereal and pocket the proceeds stinks of the same unabashed irony as seeing t-shirts with the visages of communist revolutionaries on them in the windows of mega-conglomerate department stores, which would seem funny were not the subject matter so very near and dear.
In translation: ohholyhellkillitwithfire.
In translation: ohholyhellkillitwithfire.
my problem isn't that GRRR NO ONE SHOULD DO WATCHMEN EXCEPT MOORE; it's just that the people who in this case would be "doing Watchmen" have already proven that their vision is quite far-removed from Moore's, and can generally be called a significant downgrade.
That sounds more like an argument for a new story in the same setting than against one. That way you can have a nice complex film that isn't trying to emulate a comic series. Have a new story work in its own right, from the ground up, for the medium.Uberjoe19 said:
There's no need to fear, my friends. Alan Moore will work his mighty beard-magic and intervene to make it unhappen.
DO NOT WANT! ABORT MISSION! This isn't just another superhero franchise that can be turned into a money machine. The story Watchmen told ended, and anything else would detract from it rather than add.
My problem is that the studio was unable to make a movie that was even half-way decent with the original, excellent source material. If they were to try to dream up a new story by themselves, I shudder to think what they could inflict upon fans of Watchmen.ThrobbingEgo said:
The movie was bad enough because they didn't want to piss off Alan Moore. There was no difference between it and the Graphic novel except for the thing that killed everybody. It blew. Since you can't play around in the universe (literally) then how could you expand or add to it. They did a sight for sight remake of the Graphic Novel of God and put it to motion. There was no point in seeing it if you read it and no point enjoying the orriginal if you've seen the movie.
You know Alan Moore is an actual practitioner of magic, right?rosemystica said:
Aside from that, any contributions to Watchmen that don't involve Alan Moore are likely to be bastardised fan fiction. I'm not saying someone else like a Warren Ellis or Grant Morrison couldn't do amazing things with the Universe if they were allowed to, but they should have the decency not to, since it's not a continuous series. While Moore himself did amazing things for another Comic book, Swamp Thing, resurrecting it and giving it new vision and direction which was revolutionary, the original subject matter wasn't something revolutionary in and of itself. Remember, we're talking about one of the greatest 100 books of all time, as judged by Time magazine and a revolution in terms of what type of story a comic book can tell and how that story is told.
It's like deciding to go back and make a prequel of Lord of the Rings that has nothing to do with The Hobbit, then wondering why people didn't like it. If DiDio has money to throw at this, he should be trying to use it to create new revolutionary titles which will assume such a magnificent place among both critical acclaim and DC's wallets, but that's too hard.
This is almost as stupid as that talk about a 300 sequel that was going around a bit back... almost...
For what it's worth, I really enjoyed the movie. Besides, after I first saw the film's first preview trailer, I decided to dig out my dad's old copy of the book, and then buy a glossy new copy of my own. I probably wouldn't have read Watchmen, or checked out DC's Vertigo line, if not for the film.m_jim said:
While the film wasn't the graphic novel, it certainly wasn't a bad adaption.
I'm not even a fan of Watchmen, I feel it's past its day and doesn't have as much of an impact as it once did...but even to me this is sacrilege.
So then you have never read a book or seen a movie twice? I feel sorry for you. As for me, there are two ways they can do this well.
1.) Prequel this shit up. Tell us about the minute men, we heard only a small amount about them, and I think they would make an interesting story.
2.) Make it a sequel, but have none of the characters return. Hell don't even make it a super hero movie, just show us a world that is recovering from the attack and base it on a few normal characters.
1.) Prequel this shit up. Tell us about the minute men, we heard only a small amount about them, and I think they would make an interesting story.
2.) Make it a sequel, but have none of the characters return. Hell don't even make it a super hero movie, just show us a world that is recovering from the attack and base it on a few normal characters.
I would love a sequel to the comic, but only if it was written by Alan Moore.
If we could see what has happened to the watchmen universe over the last twenty years. What was the reaction to Rorschach's journal? What was Laurie's new name and costume like? Whats the situation in the middle east as oil is no longer important (or is it becoming more important as there's no Dr Manhattan to synthesize lithium for the batteries? Is he ever going to return?
Things that could also be interesting is what is Ozimandas like after everything he does and if someone else finds a Rorshach mask (he lost one when he was arrested) and starts fighting crime as a homage to the original Rorshach.
Also Alan moore could have a chance to comment on the "gritty" movement comics (which he is usually credited as starting much to his disdain).
If we could see what has happened to the watchmen universe over the last twenty years. What was the reaction to Rorschach's journal? What was Laurie's new name and costume like? Whats the situation in the middle east as oil is no longer important (or is it becoming more important as there's no Dr Manhattan to synthesize lithium for the batteries? Is he ever going to return?
Things that could also be interesting is what is Ozimandas like after everything he does and if someone else finds a Rorshach mask (he lost one when he was arrested) and starts fighting crime as a homage to the original Rorshach.
Also Alan moore could have a chance to comment on the "gritty" movement comics (which he is usually credited as starting much to his disdain).
If this were to happen I would completely disown all things DC, including Batman (even though I love him so) and anything to do with the parent companies, whatever they are.