Weakest protagonist EVAR!

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TheTakenOne

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Why has no one mentioned Sonic the Hedgehog? He can be blown away by a small breeze if he's not holding a ring.
 

josh797

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TheTakenOne said:
Why has no one mentioned Sonic the Hedgehog? He can be blown away by a small breeze if he's not holding a ring.
i did mention sonic
josh797 said:
hey how about mario and or sonic/ they couldnt do anyything, esp. mario. even sonic could run fast, but mario died after one hit. maybe 2. and he was an f@#cking plummer i mean come on he was weak as shit. sonic as well.
 

Nugoo

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I'd say one of the player characters from those bass fishing games.
 

skyfire84

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i'm confused like many others here. i'd consider weakest to be more about anything other than physical strength or weapons or something. it's about character, conviction, etc.

so with that, how can you consider squall weak? yeah he's all pouty in the beginning and whatever, but the entire game is character development for him. at the end he's vastly different from what he was in the beginning, and you can see depth. unlike, as mentioned before, vaan from xii. why the heck was he even the main guy? THAT'S a weak protagonist.

i'd give a shout out to mallow. that little shit had no development over the entire game. he just made it rain everywhere. i know he's supposed to be a youngin', but come on. man up a little.
 
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wilsonscrazybed said:
The Potato Lord said:
(or regular human one they have are sub-bar)are stupid and basically make you feel like you could do thier job better.
It's "subpar."

I'm not sure I understand this thread. Maybe it's because I feel that people who aren't cut like Rambo have redeeming qualities that make them in their own right "badass." That's kind of the point of fantasy and games in general right? Giving someone the tools to do something they couldn't normally do. In this respect perhaps you could have been clearer in your original statement as to what "weak" means to you.

Like someone said above, Gordon Freeman pretty much topples an alien empire with a crowbar and his wits. In my opinion that makes him pretty fucking badass. of course he is just a scientist, not exactly the kind of guy you expect to be in a drinking beer with The Undertaker while driving monster trucks over pools of alligators and piranha.

I personally feel that the characters like Duke Nukem who run into places guns blazing without care for strategy are simply ineffective. Not just as iconic story figures but how they represent tactics as well. To me, that equates as "weak."
Exactly. Thats why Snake and Gordon are way better than Che(i)f and Nukem. They're cool because they're different. For guys like Nukem and Cheif, saving the world is par for the course. it's expected of them. it's not expected from a one-eyed old man with a mullet. Even the Arbiter is better than Cheif, who isnt all that bad to begin with. Arbiter turns invisible, and fights with a squad of Osoona; that's a win for strategy.
 

HizerKyte

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Some suggestions for the title (with reasoning as requested):

1) Daxter: Whilst he had his own game, he was still pretty crappy and useless in his first outing.
2) The villagers of Tristram in Diablo II: Given what happened to them in the first game... wouldn't they just move instead of awaiting the destruction of the second?
3) Any hero unit in StarCraft: They were all very powerful granted, but given that the level was an instant failure if they died did anyone ever take them out of their base? (aside from when the objectives ordered you to)
4) Leisure Suit Larry: C'mon ladies, who's gonna hit that?
5) Tony Hawk: Given that we know he's a boarding legend, why do we have to train him up from pathetic in all his games?

Eagerly awaiting feedback
 

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MA7743W said:
monk in guild wars
although the necromancer dies too easily
Someone listed Guild Wars! ~my hero~
Seriously though, my all time putz of a protagonist is Cloud Strife. He's strong, yeah, but he has a huge mental breakdown and gets put in a home where he sits and drools on himself. I find myself thinking, "Get over it man! You have a world to save and a major evil to put down! You can deal with your inferiority complex LATER!" So imo, he's not weak in the physical sense, but weak in the head for most of the game. Yes I know the poor guy was tortured in Hojo's lab but sometimes there are more important things than crying over your own pain. Or maybe Cecil has just set the bar too high for me, I dunno.
 

cuchillo0

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can it be an enemy? if so those litle ewoks from halo 3 there such wimps!
o and as a protagonist i have to say The silver surfer, anyone playd that game on nes he hits a fucking bird and he dies
 

cuchillo0

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everyone is complaining aboute raiden but i already forgot aboute that guy, kojima even things out for me by giving me the ability to kick his ass in mgs3
 

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Hi, new here.

I'm going with (dare he say it?) GOKU, Yeah, I said it!

"But Goku can teleport across space even dimensions and the Kamehameha Wave and the Super Saiyin...."

Yeah and despite all that power, he has the brain of an 8-year-old as it was likely that his wife tricked him into having sex as he doesn't really care about anything, but fighting and training to fight some more. The only real reason he wins is that its always a p---ing contest between him and whatever villain is out to destroy the world where a deus ex machina comes along to make sure Goku wins. Goku even ADMITTED that he's a villain magnet at the end of the Cell Saga though he instantly comes back against Buu and in GT. Also Goku and his crew showed BALLS-OUT RIDICULOUS irresponsibility when he was given about 3 YEARS of advance warning to destroy the Androids BEFORE they could be activated and go on a killing spree, but NOOOOO!

"That's weak. I want a challenge. Let them be activated, kill people, almost kill my friends and family multiple times until I show up and pull something out my butt to save the day. We can ALWAYS use the Dragon Balls to wish everyone back!"

Everyone always compares him to a fight against Superman or Hulk, but honestly, BATMAN could beat him down by just outsmarting him. It's really not that hard as even the most "evil" of enemies never kicked him in the nads and/or interrupted his 5-minute long attacks and transformations and he'll kindly let any equally long finishing move gear up to hit him.

Goku's SUPPOSED to represent innocence, peace and determination, but honestly, he lives in a world of idiots where making money is apparently evil, no matter what the methods or intentions to do with said money, women are better nags than fighters and that the universe bends in his favor as the king idiot whether its an underestimating bad guy, a planet that's supposed to explode in minutes, but takes MONTHS to blow and of course, a new power/form to save the day.

Goku has all that power, but not only is he useless once the day's saved, but he RELIES on villains to justify his existence, otherwise he's just a bum that can only provide for his family by punching out giant fish. I'm not Superman's biggest fan, but at least when the day's over he actually HAS a life instead of being a fight junkie.
 

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Kshandamionreal said:
Hi, new here.

I'm going with (dare he say it?) GOKU, Yeah, I said it!

"But Goku can teleport across space even dimensions and the Kamehameha Wave and the Super Saiyin...."

Yeah and despite all that power, he has the brain of an 8-year-old as it was likely that his wife tricked him into having sex as he doesn't really care about anything, but fighting and training to fight some more. The only real reason he wins is that its always a p---ing contest between him and whatever villain is out to destroy the world where a deus ex machina comes along to make sure Goku wins. Goku even ADMITTED that he's a villain magnet at the end of the Cell Saga though he instantly comes back against Buu and in GT. Also Goku and his crew showed BALLS-OUT RIDICULOUS irresponsibility when he was given about 3 YEARS of advance warning to destroy the Androids BEFORE they could be activated and go on a killing spree, but NOOOOO!

"That's weak. I want a challenge. Let them be activated, kill people, almost kill my friends and family multiple times until I show up and pull something out my butt to save the day. We can ALWAYS use the Dragon Balls to wish everyone back!"

Everyone always compares him to a fight against Superman or Hulk, but honestly, BATMAN could beat him down by just outsmarting him. It's really not that hard as even the most "evil" of enemies never kicked him in the nads and/or interrupted his 5-minute long attacks and transformations and he'll kindly let any equally long finishing move gear up to hit him.

Goku's SUPPOSED to represent innocence, peace and determination, but honestly, he lives in a world of idiots where making money is apparently evil, no matter what the methods or intentions to do with said money, women are better nags than fighters and that the universe bends in his favor as the king idiot whether its an underestimating bad guy, a planet that's supposed to explode in minutes, but takes MONTHS to blow and of course, a new power/form to save the day.

Goku has all that power, but not only is he useless once the day's saved, but he RELIES on villains to justify his existence, otherwise he's just a bum that can only provide for his family by punching out giant fish. I'm not Superman's biggest fan, but at least when the day's over he actually HAS a life instead of being a fight junkie.
I must say that I share your opinion of that series. Its total garbage. My question is how do you know so much about it when you obviously hate it enough to stop at one episode?

I'm going to have to go with Raiden myself. I'm one of the few twisted assholes who LIKED Rose. Simply because she made him suffer.
 

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Girlysprite said:
Mario. You'd think that after Bowser has kidnapped the princess so many times, he'd finally kill the dude, but noooo.
but then he wouldn't have a golfing buddy
 

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Also new here, + with that out of that way:

I'm blanking on the name at the moment, but what about that blonde girl from that easily forgetable Capcom survival-horror game where the only real thing she had going for her was that she had a dog? She seemed pretty worthless to me, though I didn't get very far in the game since within the first 10 minutes I was bored + decided to throw in something else.

Also the guy from Boy and His Blob... yeah... pretty worthless. I mean, without the Blob the game wouldn't have any action at all.
 

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Ryo from Shenmue II. He spends the whole game getting mugged by little kids, running away from gangsters, getting his ass handed to him by little old men (and women), and not flirting with girls. I know his enemy is a great martial arts master, but if you want revenge, just buy a gun.