Weakest protagonist EVAR!

josh797

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hey how about mario and or sonic/ they couldnt do anyything, esp. mario. even sonic could run fast, but mario died after one hit. maybe 2. and he was an f@#cking plummer i mean come on he was weak as shit. sonic as well.
 

Gormless

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Any of the girls from the project zero games (i belive its fatal frame in statside) in any of the spooky cutscenes they just wimper and freeze instead of dogdeing resisiting or legging it. On which note They run like there frolicking through a garden jeez i walk faster than them and there trapped genrally in what appears to be a house/village/mansion made out of rotten plywood and paper "the door is sealed by a misterios force" Its half inch thick wood woman! Kick it through!
 

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The Fool, from Fool's Errand.

While obvious as to the reason of him being in the game, and possibly the number one choice for going on an errand, he is... by total undenied definition: a Fool.
 

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dmc0419 said:
L4Y Duke said:
I'd say its Tidus from FFX. I don't think I need to explain why, right?
I'd have to say Tidus is topped by Vaan in FFXII, they're the same person only in addition to everything Tidus brings to the table Vaan is also completely irrelevant to the game's story.

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Have to agree, Atleast Tidus had that whole thing about Zanakand going on. Vaan is just a void you push around a game.
 

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Poida12 said:
Or how about Max Payne? He needs to slow down time in every fight to come out on top. Cheater! It's easy to win in an unfair fight. Very weak.
Yeah. And Raz is weak because he needs to go into people's minds to fight them. And Kirby sucks because he needs to swallow people to get their abilities.

Seriously, this goes back to the "abilities" argument. Max Payne is cool because he can slow down time. It's his special superhero ability. It doesn't make him weak. And besides, he's always outnumbered. I'll put you in a room with six guys and see how well you fare.
 

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Why has no one mentioned Sonic the Hedgehog? He can be blown away by a small breeze if he's not holding a ring.
 

josh797

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TheTakenOne said:
Why has no one mentioned Sonic the Hedgehog? He can be blown away by a small breeze if he's not holding a ring.
i did mention sonic
josh797 said:
hey how about mario and or sonic/ they couldnt do anyything, esp. mario. even sonic could run fast, but mario died after one hit. maybe 2. and he was an f@#cking plummer i mean come on he was weak as shit. sonic as well.
 

Nugoo

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I'd say one of the player characters from those bass fishing games.
 

skyfire84

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i'm confused like many others here. i'd consider weakest to be more about anything other than physical strength or weapons or something. it's about character, conviction, etc.

so with that, how can you consider squall weak? yeah he's all pouty in the beginning and whatever, but the entire game is character development for him. at the end he's vastly different from what he was in the beginning, and you can see depth. unlike, as mentioned before, vaan from xii. why the heck was he even the main guy? THAT'S a weak protagonist.

i'd give a shout out to mallow. that little shit had no development over the entire game. he just made it rain everywhere. i know he's supposed to be a youngin', but come on. man up a little.
 
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wilsonscrazybed said:
The Potato Lord said:
(or regular human one they have are sub-bar)are stupid and basically make you feel like you could do thier job better.
It's "subpar."

I'm not sure I understand this thread. Maybe it's because I feel that people who aren't cut like Rambo have redeeming qualities that make them in their own right "badass." That's kind of the point of fantasy and games in general right? Giving someone the tools to do something they couldn't normally do. In this respect perhaps you could have been clearer in your original statement as to what "weak" means to you.

Like someone said above, Gordon Freeman pretty much topples an alien empire with a crowbar and his wits. In my opinion that makes him pretty fucking badass. of course he is just a scientist, not exactly the kind of guy you expect to be in a drinking beer with The Undertaker while driving monster trucks over pools of alligators and piranha.

I personally feel that the characters like Duke Nukem who run into places guns blazing without care for strategy are simply ineffective. Not just as iconic story figures but how they represent tactics as well. To me, that equates as "weak."
Exactly. Thats why Snake and Gordon are way better than Che(i)f and Nukem. They're cool because they're different. For guys like Nukem and Cheif, saving the world is par for the course. it's expected of them. it's not expected from a one-eyed old man with a mullet. Even the Arbiter is better than Cheif, who isnt all that bad to begin with. Arbiter turns invisible, and fights with a squad of Osoona; that's a win for strategy.
 

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Some suggestions for the title (with reasoning as requested):

1) Daxter: Whilst he had his own game, he was still pretty crappy and useless in his first outing.
2) The villagers of Tristram in Diablo II: Given what happened to them in the first game... wouldn't they just move instead of awaiting the destruction of the second?
3) Any hero unit in StarCraft: They were all very powerful granted, but given that the level was an instant failure if they died did anyone ever take them out of their base? (aside from when the objectives ordered you to)
4) Leisure Suit Larry: C'mon ladies, who's gonna hit that?
5) Tony Hawk: Given that we know he's a boarding legend, why do we have to train him up from pathetic in all his games?

Eagerly awaiting feedback
 

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MA7743W said:
monk in guild wars
although the necromancer dies too easily
Someone listed Guild Wars! ~my hero~
Seriously though, my all time putz of a protagonist is Cloud Strife. He's strong, yeah, but he has a huge mental breakdown and gets put in a home where he sits and drools on himself. I find myself thinking, "Get over it man! You have a world to save and a major evil to put down! You can deal with your inferiority complex LATER!" So imo, he's not weak in the physical sense, but weak in the head for most of the game. Yes I know the poor guy was tortured in Hojo's lab but sometimes there are more important things than crying over your own pain. Or maybe Cecil has just set the bar too high for me, I dunno.
 

cuchillo0

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can it be an enemy? if so those litle ewoks from halo 3 there such wimps!
o and as a protagonist i have to say The silver surfer, anyone playd that game on nes he hits a fucking bird and he dies