Have to agree, Atleast Tidus had that whole thing about Zanakand going on. Vaan is just a void you push around a game.dmc0419 said:I'd have to say Tidus is topped by Vaan in FFXII, they're the same person only in addition to everything Tidus brings to the table Vaan is also completely irrelevant to the game's story.L4Y Duke said:I'd say its Tidus from FFX. I don't think I need to explain why, right?
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Yeah. And Raz is weak because he needs to go into people's minds to fight them. And Kirby sucks because he needs to swallow people to get their abilities.Poida12 said:Or how about Max Payne? He needs to slow down time in every fight to come out on top. Cheater! It's easy to win in an unfair fight. Very weak.
i did mention sonicTheTakenOne said:Why has no one mentioned Sonic the Hedgehog? He can be blown away by a small breeze if he's not holding a ring.
josh797 said:hey how about mario and or sonic/ they couldnt do anyything, esp. mario. even sonic could run fast, but mario died after one hit. maybe 2. and he was an f@#cking plummer i mean come on he was weak as shit. sonic as well.
Exactly. Thats why Snake and Gordon are way better than Che(i)f and Nukem. They're cool because they're different. For guys like Nukem and Cheif, saving the world is par for the course. it's expected of them. it's not expected from a one-eyed old man with a mullet. Even the Arbiter is better than Cheif, who isnt all that bad to begin with. Arbiter turns invisible, and fights with a squad of Osoona; that's a win for strategy.wilsonscrazybed said:It's "subpar."The Potato Lord said:(or regular human one they have are sub-bar)are stupid and basically make you feel like you could do thier job better.
I'm not sure I understand this thread. Maybe it's because I feel that people who aren't cut like Rambo have redeeming qualities that make them in their own right "badass." That's kind of the point of fantasy and games in general right? Giving someone the tools to do something they couldn't normally do. In this respect perhaps you could have been clearer in your original statement as to what "weak" means to you.
Like someone said above, Gordon Freeman pretty much topples an alien empire with a crowbar and his wits. In my opinion that makes him pretty fucking badass. of course he is just a scientist, not exactly the kind of guy you expect to be in a drinking beer with The Undertaker while driving monster trucks over pools of alligators and piranha.
I personally feel that the characters like Duke Nukem who run into places guns blazing without care for strategy are simply ineffective. Not just as iconic story figures but how they represent tactics as well. To me, that equates as "weak."
Someone listed Guild Wars! ~my hero~MA7743W said:monk in guild wars
although the necromancer dies too easily