Want more Orcs? Here you go:Zhukov said:On the plus side, the orcs did look pretty fucking amazing.
Want more Orcs? Here you go:Zhukov said:On the plus side, the orcs did look pretty fucking amazing.
There's actually a scene at the end where Lothar basically solos the Ork Fortress dungeon, and all he brings is a sword and a griffon mount. And holy fuck the griffon tears shit up right proper! I remember thinking that if they just brought a dozen more of them the Orcs would have been massacred.AccursedTheory said:Well, that's it for me. My one curiosity about the movie (Since I care little for the source material, or any of the individuals involved in the movie) was 'Is it at least a functional action movie.' Guess it isn't.For a film titled "war craft" there's precious little action. And still less of it is any good. Have you seen this clip [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqL5rYJawuc]? If so then congratulations, you've seen the lion's share of decent action that the film has to offer.
Thanks for the write up.
How is it sad? If it's shit, it's shit. The only thing it really does is make it less likely videogame movies are made in the future, or at least made in a way that is in any way resembles the source material.slo said:It is sad to see how gamers of all people are lining up to shit on the first decent videogame movie in years.
Wtf, are you stoned or something?
Wait...what? Wil "I don't know what ETC actually is, so I'm going to just say etcetera instead here at Blizzcon as the main presenter" Wheaton is involved in this? Jesus Christ, they really were scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for people to put into this...Silentpony said:And I remember when Will Wheaton's wizard character was reading the sorcery book and leaning over to my cousin and just saying "Holy fuck, he's actually leveling up on screen!" and he was like "Shit, he's checking his ability tree!"'
So as much as i don't think its a good movie, its a great drinking movie with guy friends.
Glad to hear it. I saw this movie last night actually. And while it wasn't great, it was hardly terrible. It did remind me a bit of the Dungeons and Dragons movie, in some of the scenes, just on a production level. But overall, it wasn't a terrible experience. The last time I played WoW was The Burning Legion expansion, so I'm pretty rusty on a lot of the lore, especially pre-WC 3 lore, which this movie is drenched in. But even then, I enjoyed it.Samtemdo8 said:Well it already broked even at the box office according to Wikipedia:slo said:It is sad to see how gamers of all people are lining up to shit on the first decent videogame movie in years.
Wtf, are you stoned or something?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warcraft_(film)
Whilst immensely popular , Lord of The Rings caught a lot of flak on the story part.sageoftruth said:I hadn't noticed it at first, but in hindsight, it did seem kind of predetermined that trying to condense such a lore-heavy franchise into a 2-hour movie would lead to some serious problems. Then again, Lord of The Rings pulled it off. I'm guessing that an important part of it is to start small. (Disclaimer: I haven't seen the Warcraft Movie).
I think in such a lore-heavy piece of material, you'd want to start with a simple main character who understands the world about as much as a first-time viewer does. Star Wars did this with Luke Skywalker, and Lord of the Rings did it with Frodo. Meanwhile, what little I heard about Warcraft suggested that distinguished military officers were the main characters, which meant that loads of exposition needed to be dumped on the audience to catch them up with the characters themselves.
Does that sound about right?
And oh my goodness if they ever do the Silmarillion faithfully especially how that book begins everyone not familiar with Tolkien will destroy that movie.Politrukk said:Whilst immensely popular , Lord of The Rings caught a lot of flak on the story part.sageoftruth said:I hadn't noticed it at first, but in hindsight, it did seem kind of predetermined that trying to condense such a lore-heavy franchise into a 2-hour movie would lead to some serious problems. Then again, Lord of The Rings pulled it off. I'm guessing that an important part of it is to start small. (Disclaimer: I haven't seen the Warcraft Movie).
I think in such a lore-heavy piece of material, you'd want to start with a simple main character who understands the world about as much as a first-time viewer does. Star Wars did this with Luke Skywalker, and Lord of the Rings did it with Frodo. Meanwhile, what little I heard about Warcraft suggested that distinguished military officers were the main characters, which meant that loads of exposition needed to be dumped on the audience to catch them up with the characters themselves.
Does that sound about right?
It was filmed nicely and grandiose but even the LoTR movies sort of shredded the lore, nevermind what the Hobbit did afterwards.
Ouch. That sounded dreadfully bad for something Warcraft related.Samtemdo8 said:And the music is just average, I mean why the fuck did they not hire the official music team for the games?
The only way a Silmarillion movie would work would be if they'd turn it into a History Channel documentary. I mean, it is basically a history book of a fantasy realm.And oh my goodness if they ever do the Silmarillion faithfully especially how that book begins everyone not familiar with Tolkien will destroy that movie.
slo said:Kirin Tor and Medivh don't get along well.Happyninja42 said:What is up with the Kirin Tor? Every time the mage protagonist mentioned that he was part of them, he was like "I've left them! I'm no longer a member!!" I don't recall the Kirin Tor being reviled by anyone in Azeroth, so I don't get why he described it as if he were saying "I'm no longer in the KKK! I left them! I renounced my vows to their order!" I was like "...um, ok? Why is this a big deal?"
And at some point Khadgar was spying at Medivh for Kirin Tor. Medivh did not like that at all.
Here is the official soundtrack list:Cowabungaa said:Ouch. That sounded dreadfully bad for something Warcraft related.Samtemdo8 said:And the music is just average, I mean why the fuck did they not hire the official music team for the games?
Blizzard's music department is one of the best in the business, they routinely hire such amazing composers and orchestras. In the end their entire soundscape offers the majority of the atmosphere, especially back when I played WoW. To not see a Warcraft movie coupled with music of that quality would be a major stand-out issue for me. One of the main reasons not to go see this actually.
The only way a Silmarillion movie would work would be if they'd turn it into a History Channel documentary. I mean, it is basically a history book of a fantasy realm.And oh my goodness if they ever do the Silmarillion faithfully especially how that book begins everyone not familiar with Tolkien will destroy that movie.
Here you go about medivh:Happyninja42 said:slo said:Kirin Tor and Medivh don't get along well.Happyninja42 said:What is up with the Kirin Tor? Every time the mage protagonist mentioned that he was part of them, he was like "I've left them! I'm no longer a member!!" I don't recall the Kirin Tor being reviled by anyone in Azeroth, so I don't get why he described it as if he were saying "I'm no longer in the KKK! I left them! I renounced my vows to their order!" I was like "...um, ok? Why is this a big deal?"
And at some point Khadgar was spying at Medivh for Kirin Tor. Medivh did not like that at all.And did Medivh eventually go all Sith Lord in the video game like he did in the movie? Because the last time I remember him being mentioned, he was just the enigmatic mystic guy who would fly in and give Dire Portents, and then fly off. Also, did he basically admit to being the half-orc's father? Is that her deal? That Medivh fell in love with an orc woman, and used the Dark Portal to call them through so he could be with his love? I just, I don't get why he summoned them over. It wasn't explained at all.
anecdotal and all, but there is a huge facebook post among my friend regarding this movie and how many of them that enjoyed it, and there was a *vast* amount of different personalities and different gamers among the post. I heard very little negative things about it beyond a resounding: "if you aren't nerdy, then yeah you probably won't like it", but most of them hadn't played warcraft and had only played bits of WoW, so it's hard for me to believe that it's all rose tinted glasses from warcraft nerds. I'm getting my ticket paid for me to see it tonight, so I personally can't speak for my opinion yet.BloatedGuppy said:Yeah that about sums it up. I've read enough reviews at this point to know EXACTLY what the problem was. Duncan Jones is a huge Warcraft fan, and set about trying to make a Warcraft film for other huge Warcraft fans. Which, according to huge Warcraft fans, he more or less succeeding in doing (with some bumps). People who are not huge Warcraft fans are left wondering WTF is going on and why they should care about the avalanche of cheese they are being subjected to.Zhukov said:Sounded like the people involved were really out to make a go of it. Which might just be part of the problem.
As the film took the Chinese box office by storm, a sequel...or set of sequels...is a distinct possibility. Hopefully they'll find a better balance between fan service and making a functional movie if that turns out to be the case.
They say "blood elks," not blood elves.Silentpony said:I could have sworn Gamora daughter of Thanos was half Orc and half Blood Elf. 'cause Orcs have never encountered humans before and she's like 30. And she can't be part draenei because she looks nothing like an aqua velva Klingon goat.
And at one point Orgrim and Durotar were chatting about how much they missed hunting Blood Elves through the woods.
At least prior to the Third War there was a fair amount of distrust to the Kirin Tor, based on the usual issues - you use magic, I distrust magic, ergo I trust you, etc. Doesn't help that Dalaran was a city-state, and an insular one at that. The basic paradigm is that the Alliance was quite happy to include Dalaran during the Second War as they needed the arcane magics they could provide, but after that? Go figure.Happyninja42 said:What is up with the Kirin Tor? Every time the mage protagonist mentioned that he was part of them, he was like "I've left them! I'm no longer a member!!" I don't recall the Kirin Tor being reviled by anyone in Azeroth, so I don't get why he described it as if he were saying "I'm no longer in the KKK! I left them! I renounced my vows to their order!" I was like "...um, ok? Why is this a big deal?"
Pretty sure Wil Wheaton is no where appearing in that film. There's a young guy who looks like Wheaton did some years back a bit, but it isn't him.Redryhno said:How is it sad? If it's shit, it's shit. The only thing it really does is make it less likely videogame movies are made in the future, or at least made in a way that is in any way resembles the source material.slo said:It is sad to see how gamers of all people are lining up to shit on the first decent videogame movie in years.
Wtf, are you stoned or something?
Silentpony said:And I remember when Will Wheaton's wizard character was reading the sorcery book and leaning over to my cousin and just saying "Holy fuck, he's actually leveling up on screen!" and he was like "Shit, he's checking his ability tree!"'
So as much as i don't think its a good movie, its a great drinking movie with guy friends.
Wait...what? Wil "I don't know what ETC actually is, so I'm going to just say etcetera instead here at Blizzcon as the main presenter" Wheaton is involved in this? Jesus Christ, they really were scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for people to put into this...
Everyone would be yelling cash grab and to be honest, I'd probably be on their side. I'd like to think a movie could stand by itself.Odbarc said:I wish they made two movies at the same time and whichever version you saw either had the movie from the perspective entirely of humans or orcs. And then you'd have to watch both of them to get the whole story where everything makes sense but they'd both be complete movies telling the same story individually.
The other guy said it was Wheaton, I was just surprised that the guy who didn't even know what the hell he was opening for at one of the bigger Cons in gaming was involved. But if he isn't, then I retract that statement completely. I just don't care for Wheaton, especially since the bullshit with BTS with Tabletop came to light.Mylinkay Asdara said:Pretty sure Wil Wheaton is no where appearing in that film. There's a young guy who looks like Wheaton did some years back a bit, but it isn't him.
You're thinking of this guy? http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjM1MDUxNTM4OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwMzQ5ODk1ODE@._V1_SY1000_CR0,0,631,1000_AL_.jpg
Ben Schnetzer, not Wil Wheaton.
The what with Tabletop? I'm obviously behind on something there. Not surprising I'm hardly on the pulse of the Internet news, but I am curious if you'd summarize?Redryhno said:The other guy said it was Wheaton, I was just surprised that the guy who didn't even know what the hell he was opening for at one of the bigger Cons in gaming was involved. But if he isn't, then I retract that statement completely. I just don't care for Wheaton, especially since the bullshit with BTS with Tabletop came to light.Mylinkay Asdara said:Snip