What are your 10/10 games

[Axelhander]

Just throwing this out there:

"I like it" doesn't mean "it's perfect." It is completely possible to like something you don't think is well-made, and to dislike something you think is well-made.

Also, saying something like "X game doesn't have a single flaw in my mind" is a flawed statement that ultimately leads to fanboy-ism. Like what you like but don't be blind to its flaws for defensive to valid criticism. I may love, love, love Final Fantasy 6, but the game has real issues (some I'd argue as OBJECTIVE *gasp* not the O word).

 

[ResonanceGames]

Like barbzilla, I'm tempted to put Deus Ex, but even that game had flaws. The AI and clunky combat make it more like a 9.8 in my book. I can't think of anything I'd put higher than that. Portal, maybe? I can't think of anything I didn't like about that off the top my head. Length wasn't issue because it wasn't a full priced game.

Other than those...

Planescape Torment had vanilla combat that was somehow less inspiring than Icewind Dale and Baldur's Gate. Half Life had Xen. HL2 had Civil Protection, which were a big downgrade from the HECU as far as fun AI goes. System Shock 2 had those fricking breaking weapons and some confusing level design. Pretty much all my favorite games had at least one or two crappy things about them.

 

[Batfred]

10 out of 10 doesn't mean it's perfect.

So what does it mean and why does it not mean something is perfect?

EDIT: Stoo-pid ninjas!

Thats why I said 'yours'. There is no such thing as a perfect game. Someone somewhere will not like a game for some reason. Thats why I asked which games are 10/10 for you, meaning what games are as close to perfect to you?

That's all well and good and I like to think that my first post in this thread answers that quite well. However, I don't think that your response answers my question. To me 10/10 means perfect which is why I have given my choices 9.8-ish. What does 10/10 mean to you if you don't think that it means perfect?

 

[GloatingSwine]

10 out of 10 doesn't mean it's perfect.

Well, that's what a whole fraction means to me. If 10 out of 10 isn't perfect, what do they give perfect games?

Since "perfect" is an irrelevant concept in a medium where appreciation is at least partially subjective (The best golf game in the world will entirely fail to entertain someone who hates golf games with a burning passion), trying to define any arbitrary score as "perfect" is a nonsense.

 

[cowsvils]

I think Bioshock is the best game I've ever played from an all around perspective, so I'd say it's a 10/10. I guess that depends on how you define a 10/10 though, as I'm sure Irrational could have done more.

 

[GiantRaven]

Perfect is an opinion.

Exactly.

If ideas on what perfection is can differ from person to person, how can anything be considered truly 'perfect'? If something were perfect, wouldn't part of it's perfection be universal appeal and praise?

 

[lovest harding]

All these points of there is no 'perfect' are invalid. Perfect is one of those subjective things.
For instance, a perfect game to me is one I enjoyed so immensely that it's flaws just don't matter. Dreamfall: The Longest Journey and Saints Row 2 come to mind for me. One is pretty poor quality glitch wise while delivering what I find to be wonderful gameplay and just all around gameworld mayhem fun (SR2) while the other has lack-luster at best fighting while delivering one of the best game stories I've ever experienced (Dreamfall).
I'd consider a lot of games to be perfect under my definition (making a list would be pointless as the responses would just be "that game isn't perfect!"), doesn't mean they're games that can't be improved in any way, just games that are completely worth their original prices, the effort of gameplay and are balanced with positives well beyond their negatives.

EDIT: Well. My point was already made by others while typing this out. xD

 

[GiantRaven]

Whats wrong with MGS4 gameplay/storywise?

Rosemary and creepy old man Campbell.

*shudder*

 

[icame]

Perfection is an illusion so 10/10 for me means its a masterpiece.

Half life 2
Portal
Bioshock
Uncharted 2
Shadow of the colossus
Mass effect 2

Note: There are games that I consider 9/10 that are better then some games I consider 10/10 due to the 9/10 games only being held back by a few flaws.

 

[TiefBlau]

Ocarina of Time, Portal, Starcraft 2, and Deus Ex. They aren't perfect, but I don't expect them to be. Even for a 10/10.

Perfect is an opinion.

Exactly.

If ideas on what perfection is can differ from person to person, how can anything be considered truly 'perfect'? If something were perfect, wouldn't part of it's perfection be universal appeal and praise?

What the fuck? He just said perfection was an opinion, so clearly "universal appeal and praise" isn't part of it.

This is like saying since good and bad are opinions, there is nothing good or bad in the world. Arbitrary guidelines lead an arbitrary existence. No use dwelling on the semantics of it.

 

[Axelhander]

Perfect is an opinion.

Exactly.

If ideas on what perfection is can differ from person to person, how can anything be considered truly 'perfect'? If something were perfect, wouldn't part of it's perfection be universal appeal and praise?

This is like saying that if a person doesn't believe Robert Downey Jr. is in the live action Iron Man movies, Downey Jr. might not be in, because if he was, why wouldn't it be universally accepted?

 

[Subbies]

Portal and Rez (I would say Minecraft but it's not finished yet) and I can't wait to lay my paws on child of eden

 

[Torrasque]

lol, oh god...
There are going to be so many people who get butthert in this thread...

As for me:
Starcraft 2, WC3 (particularly Frozen Throne), Portal, Zelda: OoT/MM, Halo: Reach, Shadow of Rome (only fault is there is no FUCKING SEQUEL), Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken (first one to be released outside of japan), Ogre Battle 64, and... Banjo Kazooie.

All of these games get a 10/10 from me for: graphics, gameplay, story, humor, seriousness, character development, and growth of the series/genre.

 

[repeating integers]

Of all the games I own, the only one which comes within a hair's breadth of perfection is Homeworld.

 

[Vaer]

Not one game is a 10/10 but there are a few I would think of giving a 10 for personal reasons :

Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic

Giants : Citizen Kabuto

Freelancer

Prince of Persia : The Sands of Time

FarCry

Anachronox

Metro 2033

Ground Control 2 : Operation Exodus

The Longest Journey

Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines

None of these deserve a 10/10 but they all had something great about them, and I will always love them, these games are always in my top favorites despite the problems some of them have and that just goes to prove how good they actually are.

 

[InfiniteJacuzzi]

This is like saying that if a person doesn't believe Robert Downey Jr. is in the live action Iron Man movies, Downey Jr. might not be in, because if he was, why wouldn't it be universally accepted?

Read this. [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/opinion] Then read this. [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fact]

 

[Baneat]

No such thing as a perfect game. They all have faults no matter how minor.

And really? MGS4 had no faults?

That's hilarious.

I said to you. Meaning what game have you played that you couldn't point out anything terribly wrong with it.Not saying the games are perfect but I couldn't think of anything to make the games better than what the devs gave me.

Whats wrong with MGS4 gameplay/storywise?

MGS4's fauxlosophy prevented the 10/10

plus it's horrible to control the weapons

I don't know what you are talking about man. I played the game as a stealth shooter, only killing when needed, I don't know how the game plays if you just go rambo but for the most part I just sneaked around with a laser sighted pistol putting people to sleep.

ADSing

the weapon models were of such poor quality that iron sighting was hellish

 

[Captain Pirate]

Red Dead Redemption, Fallout 3, Harry Potter 2 (GBC Version), Ape Escape 2, Ratchet and Clank 2 and 3.

 

[IamSofaKingRaw]

Just throwing this out there:

"I like it" doesn't mean "it's perfect." It is completely possible to like something you don't think is well-made, and to dislike something you think is well-made.

Also, saying something like "X game doesn't have a single flaw in my mind" is a flawed statement that ultimately leads to fanboy-ism. Like what you like but don't be blind to its flaws for defensive to valid criticism. I may love, love, love Final Fantasy 6, but the game has real issues (some I'd argue as OBJECTIVE *gasp* not the O word).

Seeing as there is no perfect game for EVERYONE, 10/10 means that it is an AMAZING game in your eyes. Every game has flaws but I asked for games that have flaws so small (in your eyes of course) that the game is nearly perfect. If you think a game has big issues you obviously don't think it deserves a 10.

For me its essentially a game you play where you never stop and say "I wish they didn't do ___" or "Its too bad they didn't add __, it'd make the game way better". Sure someone could think of something to add or do better in MGS4 but I sure as hell couldn't, same with Uncharted 2.

 

[Amas_samA]

Almost one out of every three people here claim that Mass Effect 2 is awesome. WHY? I've played ME2. I enjoyed it while I was playing. However, when the credits started to roll, I asked myself: "What have I been playing?". Reminisce, the game was pretty fucking bad. I was slow, the battle were boring and always the same, the level design is poor, the upgrade system is unoriginal and unnecessary. Granted, the story telling is ok, and the character development is above average. But the rest was flat-out poor. If they had made a movie out of it, it would give the same enjoyment but without the eyebleedingly boring mineral grinding.