Psycho-Toaster said:
AyreonMaiden said:
"Art" means nothing more than "Assholes trying to tell you what you can and can't find meaning and emotional attachment in." and as such gamers should be ashamed of wanting to aspire to that worthless label.
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Seriously, I'll never understand the "Games are art" movement. You consider it art, great, why waste time and effort trying to convince people who clearly don't give a shit about the medium?
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Honestly, the movement is selfish. Completely and utterly selfish. People CRIED when SCOTUS passed their verdict. As a Venezuelan, I say "GREAT, now what about the other countries all around the world that still ban not only games, but other "established forms of art" such as literature and film?" They don't count, apparently. You've won jack-for-shit with this SCOTUS thing.
"Games as art" is pure, unadulterated Grade A bullshit that serves to show how needy people are of other people's approval, and it will only further segregate the gaming community with its pretentiousness. I say make all kinds of games you want, from Duke Nukem to Zelda to Passage to One Chance, because they'll mean everything and nothing to everyone and no one, and call it all what it is, no more or less: VIDEOGAMES. This "art" bullshit will only create the snooty hipster niche, further dividing us. It's bad enough that there's Hardcore Gamers, Meathead Gamers, and Casual Gamers without adding elitist, pretentious "Arte critiqueurs" to the fucking mix.
"But the political implications! I want them to be protected from censorship!" Well, keep dreaming. Nothing will change. Not even when our generation take over the world will anything change. People will still blame games because some kids are products of their environment, and the apple won't fall too far from the tree. And so The Escapist and others will still post about it with its pro-gamer slant, the community will spout the same angry bullshit and the earth will keep spinning because THERE'S FAR TOO MANY OF US here for there to be any absolute consensus on something as nebulous as "Art." Being called "Art" protects nothing from anyone. The government can and will fuck with you whenever it wants as long as they write the right words the right way on the spiky iron dildo they shove up your ass. You just happen to be lucky if you're in the US, where they seem to take it seriously enough, and not in, say:
Australia, Brazil, China, Cuba, Denmark, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Norway, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, South Korea, Sweden, Thailand, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom and Venezuela.*
So no, completely stupid movement that, to me, brings absolutely nothing positive.
*source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games
