What characters would you replace in Marvel vs Capcom 3?

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mentalkitty789

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marginal said:
Marvel vs Capcom 3 is almost here. I know there's another thread discussing the characters but I wanted something more specific. What characters would you replace if you could? Including the two day one DLC chars. (Day 1 DLC is lame btw) A list of all of the characters can be found here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_vs._Capcom_3:_Fate_of_Two_Worlds#Playable_characters].

There are a few rules though.

1. You can't add characters, only replace them. To add one in, you must remove one.
2. Adding a Marvel characater means you must remove a Marvel character, and the same goes for Capcom. This is to keep the numbers even for both sides.
3. Please please give reasons.

Okay, I'll start it off.
I don't have anything to add, but I do have my own thoughts. I don't see the point in replacing characters. Ultimately there is no advantage or disadvantage to it. I mean someone will ***** that character X is not in the game no matter what. I just don't see the point in removing characters from a fighting game. With a fighting game, in my opinion, you should only ADD to the list from game to game. Of course it is alright to remove characters who fight the same, what fun is there in a clone? (It is fine for characters who are similar enough. It is only a problem when there are too many that are clones.) I personally think that they should be given their own move set and put back in the game though.
I don't think the removal a fighter from a fighting game should ever happen, unless the plot demands it... I don't think that is the case with MvC3 though. Still this is just my opinion, no need to pay me any mind.
 

mentalkitty789

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marginal said:
Marvel vs Capcom 3 is almost here. I know there's another thread discussing the characters but I wanted something more specific. What characters would you replace if you could? Including the two day one DLC chars. (Day 1 DLC is lame btw) A list of all of the characters can be found here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_vs._Capcom_3:_Fate_of_Two_Worlds#Playable_characters].

There are a few rules though.

1. You can't add characters, only replace them. To add one in, you must remove one.
2. Adding a Marvel characater means you must remove a Marvel character, and the same goes for Capcom. This is to keep the numbers even for both sides.
3. Please please give reasons.

Okay, I'll start it off.
I don't have anything to add, but I do have my own thoughts. I don't see the point in replacing characters. Ultimately there is no advantage or disadvantage to it. I mean someone will ***** that character X is not in the game no matter what. I just don't see the point in removing characters from a fighting game. With a fighting game, in my opinion, you should only ADD to the list from game to game. Of course it is alright to remove characters who fight the same, what fun is there in a clone? (It is fine for characters who are similar enough. It is only a problem when there are too many that are clones.) I personally think that they should be given their own move set and put back in the game though.
I don't think the removal a fighter from a fighting game should ever happen, unless the plot demands it... I don't think that is the case with MvC3 though. Still this is just my opinion, no need to pay me any mind.
 

Dendio

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Bring in Black Cat, Carnage, Daredevil or Doctor octopus
Spidey needs more representation...
 

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Having come back simply to comment upon the ideas of others it would probably make more sense to use the quote feature. However being new to the escapist I'm unsure how many different things I can quote and whether I can quote from two different pages so I'll just comment as best as I can.

In response to Marginal's replacement of She-Hulk with Rogue (or Psylocke), X-23 with Gambit, Chris with Guile, and Akuma with Blanka - The problem there is now you're over representing the X-men and Street Fighter series, something which should really be limited to three characters per a franchise (or would you call it a segment of a franchise?). As for Blanka replacing Akuma, while that would be interesting (and make my little brother happy), Capcom would only have one villain on their side.

In response to Suilenroc for pointing out the obvious reason why both Ryu and Ken are not in the game - Thank you!

In response to FalloutJack's replacement all the darkstalkers characters and Tron Bonne for Megaman X, Sigma, Dr. Wily, and Vergil as well as the replacement of M.O.D.O.K. and Taskmaster for The Punisher and Sabertooth - Your reasons for ousting the characters are petty. I don't like Felicia but I have no suitable reason other than that dislike to remove her so I don't, just grudgingly accept her as a character. Furthermore you've not only just removed any representation of the Darkstalker series but you're slightly over representing the Megaman series with four characters (as the game is designed for teams of three having three characters per franchise at most just seem more logical). Also M.O.D.O.K. and Taskmaster bring some unique styles of game play (and they both look awesome) to the game while Punisher would be just another gun fighter (there are already quite a few) and Sabertooth would mean that there would be seven characters representing the X-men series. That's just ridiculous.

In response to 2xDouble for his style of post - You show favourability but manage to balance it by accepting that this would mean too many of one franchise or not having a suitable replacement. For that I tip my hat at you, thank you for the logical reasoning.

In response to Warty Bliggens joke - I understood it and you're right, the original design of Jill Valentine would be much better to see than the current one. It just fit's better in my opinion to have Jill Valentine as a gun fighter (then comes the risk of her being a weaker, faster version of Chris but I'm sure the series has enough variety of weapons and tactics to make an original play style).

In response to Fallen-Angel Risen-Devil's replacement of Spencer with Chuck Green (or Frank West), Trish with Ryu, and Taskmaster with Daredevil - Admittedly Spencer's play style doesn't look as interesting as they could have made it and Frank West does appear to be quite a fun character in Tatsunok0 vs. Capcom so I guess that would work. I can't think of an adequate reason to remove Trish but thank you, thank you for remembering the Breath of Fire series (I'm a huge fan of Breath of Fire IV) and Taskmaster being replaced by Daredevil is iffy as I can't think of any reason to remove Taskmaster but Daredevil is a good choice of character so I'm cool with it.

In response to Jonny49's replacement of She-Hulk with Daredevil (or Punisher), and Taskmaster with Moon Knight - I can't think of any sufficient reason for replacing She-Hulk and Taskmaster but the choices of Daredevil and Moon Knight are sufficient ones. There not hugely popular so their appearance would bring them recognition and you could develop some unique and balanced game styles. My disapproval of Punisher has been made clear but once again I think he'd be a bit bland really (no offence to fans). He just isn't likely to have as interesting or original of a fighting style as the other choices.

In response to Mr. Omega's post - My brain has just melted from happiness. Your post is brilliant, it considers the choices logically and it recognises Mega Man as the face of Capcom. You consider what would be good and what why the characters are in the game in the first place. The one thing you failed to indicate is that removing Akuma leaves only one villain on the Capcom side and that would be a bit disappointing.

In response to Asuka Soryu's replacement of M.O.D.O.K. with Gambit, Chun-li for Juri, and She-Hulf for Rogue - You didn't give any reasons and I don't know who Juri is. Considering the game play style M.O.D.O.K. brings to the mix I don't see why you would remove him and your removal choices send the already overrepresented X-men franchise to eight characters. Once again that is just outrageous.

In response to mentalkiity789's opinion - You raise a good point and I have only one argument against it. Character choice is different in a crossover game as you have to balance the representation of each franchise. They have an equal amount of characters from Marvel and Capcom because they have to represent the two series as equals. It is this matter of balancing when replacing characters becomes an acceptable act so long as that removal creates a balance, for instance there are six X-men characters so replacing one of them is no big deal, they have several characters representing the series as it is (and in my opinion too many). Regardless I thank you raising a topical point and one we should all consider when we post on forums concerning character choices.

This would have been much easier if I quoted but as I said, I'm new and unfamiliar with how it all works. This will probably be a long post and I'm sorry for any inconvenience this post causes. Well feel free to comment upon my own comments (or comment upon my original comment).
 

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Playing MvC3 is like seeing The Rolling Stones in concert. They've got a ton of awesome and instantly recognizable songs/characters to play, but they insist on giving you b-sides/deep tracks/shitty characters no one cares about.

Really, I'd replace about half of the cast without blinking.
 

marginal

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I made this thread just to say what I thought and see if anyone else was like-minded and see what everyone else thought. Nice to see a lot of interesting views. As for having too many characters from one franchise, I guess I'm just not opposed to it. Street Fighter and X-Men are the most popular franchises on each side, and I personally don't mind them having an edge in numbers. Overall though, the current roster is good. They did a good job providing variety and I can't complain too much. Played online yesterday for the first time (got owned) and man it sure is a blast.
 

Lord Beautiful

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Just had a thought. How about replacing Sentinel with Captain Planet? I'm pretty sure Marvel could scrounge up the pocket change it'd take to buy those rights.
 

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I'm fine with the roster. I see some familiar characters and new ones I never heard of. If anything, I wish they would have added more characters. Maybe some DLC in the future.

I'm loving my team of Tronne Bonne, Amaterasu, and Felicia.
 

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I'd replace M.O.D.O.K. with pretty much any Marvel character aside from Squirrel Girl or Howard the Duck. Maybe M.O.D.O.K. for Hawkeye. And Replace "Sentinel" with Nimrod (who is a unique sentinel from a future timeline).

The Capcom characters are pretty well chosen, but I'd still replace C.Viper with Blanka.
 

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Well, let's see...

X-23 can stay. I like to use her as a second rush-character if I also use Wolverine.
Trish? I'm not taking her off either. The fact you can combo her Sparda-throw Super and Lightning Super makes her pretty good too.

I'd take out MODOK and put in Ghost Rider (Really dislike that giant floaty head guy), remove Jill for MvC2 Jill (Not that it matters, she's DLC and thus unobtainable for me), and Chris for Gene from God Hand (Because Chris sucks, gameplay-wise. You get juggled pretty easily if the other guy has a longer range. And, odds are, they do).

Dendio said:
Daredevil
If it counts, he's in Chris's ending. Ironically, despite me being useless with him, his was the first ending I unlocked. I somehow triggered his Javelin special when fighting Galactus, and took him down with it.
 

Geeky Anomaly

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I would replace She-Hulk with Charles Xavier. Because watching a man in a wheelchair fight would be hysterical.
 

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SvenBTB said:
I'd take Sentinel's Stupid Cheap-Ass out, and put in either Vemon, War Machine, or Rouge. Besides him, I love the line-up.
*cough* Venom
*double cough* Rogue
*triple cough* Iron Man's 2nd costume is a War Machine recolour. It may not be a new character, but it's close.
 

Krunkcity3000

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I'd replace Spencer with Black Panther and X-23 with Nightcrawler. Actually I wouldnt replace anyone I'd just add people since there are only 36 characters in the game and MVC2 had 50.
 

CrazyCapnMorgan

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I pretty much like the entire line-up of MvC3. Though, if I could perform a switch like that, I think I'd switch out She-Hulk and Taskmaster for Silver Surfer and either Terrax the Tamer or Stardust.

I always thought it odd that Galactus was in the game and there was no mention of his Heralds whatsoever. However, to their credit, Surfer was in Zero's ending.

EDIT: And Spencer with the gargoyle Firebrand. You got Arthur in there, Capcom, why not the Red Blaze?
 

NeutralDrow

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I don't see the point of replacing characters at all. Particularly characters who are entirely new. Particularly She-Hulk; seriously, she's a great character, she was the fourth wall breaker even before Deadpool, and she fights like a luchador. What more do you want?

Oh, and you all can take my X-23 away from me over my dead body. If you're so upset, just get rid of Wolverine and pretend that he used up his right to be in this game by appearing in MvC2 twice.
 

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Funny thing is with people complaining about Akuma, he's now becoming one of the most popular fighters used in the game. I go online and see Akuma's everywhere which goes to show that a fighter's mechanics trumps who they are as people will play as good characters regardless of their looks.
 

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gigastar said:
Sigh... so many people bitching about She-Hulk and X-23...
Also for those who ***** about Sentinel being OP again, his weakness is in his size.

I suppose I would get rid of Viper for Gene from God Hand. Then I can have team Clover.

I'd like to see Doctor Strange, but im not sure who to get rid of for him.

Also would like to see Thanos (and Deadpool's reaction to him) but again, not sure.

Oh, and Frank West. Maybe get rid of Akuma, or not, as id like to slam a servbot helmet on that bastard as well as the entire Marvel cast.
I'm a bit annoyed with people complaining about She-Hulk and X-23 also. Especially those who haven't even played the game yet. They both play ENTIRELY different than their "counterparts" Hulk and Wolverine.

As for my replacements: I'd Like to see Tron-Bonne gone for Strider or Jin from MvC2. And Sentinel gone for Ghost Rider. That's all I can really think of at this time when I should be heading off for work. May edit later. Overall I'm very happy with the game and have played as everyone. She-Hulk, X-23 and Iron Man/Deadpool is one of my reserve teams and I love it.