What Defines a True man ?

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Paksenarrion

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What about, "What makes a true human being?" As much as I enjoy having my gender ignored in regard to virtues...it's...well...it's kinda like a kick in the balls. No one enjoys a kick in the balls, right? Yeah...
 

Lyx

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Pirate Kitty said:
Turns out we're both right/wrong XD

"gender gen·der (jěn'dər)
n.

The sex of an individual, male or female, based on reproductive anatomy.

Sexual identity, especially in relation to society or culture."

Ah well. Live and learn.
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Well, in popular language, sex and gender are indeed often used synonymously. The distinction between biology, choice of sexual partner, and cultural roles, still is in its infancy when it comes to the masses. So, when you talk with someone or read a book or play a game, you will indeed find many cases, where sex/gender is used synonymously, and basically means "all of those things". (there are many other such cases - for example, most people have difficulty to distinguish between "exists", "true", "real", "right" and "good")

But that something is popular doesn't necessarily make it reasonable. Being unable to distinguish those aspects in language, conditions people to automatically associate male biology with heterosexuality and cultural roles of a man. Plus, without a way to distinguish, one can barely talk efficiently about it in a differentiated way. Thats why among people who care about this, they distinguish between sex and gender.
 

spartan231490

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Lyx said:
Pirate Kitty said:
Turns out we're both right/wrong XD

"gender gen·der (jěn'dər)
n.

The sex of an individual, male or female, based on reproductive anatomy.

Sexual identity, especially in relation to society or culture."

Ah well. Live and learn.
:)

Well, in popular language, sex and gender are indeed often used synonymously. The distinction between biology, choice of sexual partner, and cultural roles, still is in its infancy when it comes to the masses. So, when you talk with someone or read a book or play a game, you will indeed find many cases, where sex/gender is used synonymously, and basically means "all of those things".

But that something is popular doesn't necessarily make it reasonable. Being unable to distinguish those aspects in language, conditions people to automatically associate male biology with heterosexuality and cultural roles of a man. Plus, without a way to distinguish, one can barely talk efficiently about it in a differentiated way. Thats why among people who care about this, they distinguish between sex and gender.
Precisely.
 

the_bearpelt

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To me, what makes a man a man is when he acts like one.
Things like admitting when he's wrong. Standing up for his friends. Being responsible. Taking charge.
But then again, I'm typically attracted to men who are assertive or strong-willed in some way. (I usually say that I want my guy to be a MAN. I am not going to be the man for the both of us.)

Altho for me, the phrase "be a man" can be applied to both men and women because of the message it intends. I'm usually like, "Oh, quiz being a pussy and take it like a man" regardless of gender.
 

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Pirate Kitty said:
A Y chromosome.
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Wow, first post. Good job team. Drinks are on me.

Beyond that you are just asking "What makes a good person". We(royal) say "you aren't a real man" but really we are just saying "you sir, are an asshole/pussy". Women put up with a lot more than most men. Should we call people women as a term of panegyric then rather than the criticism it was (and still is).
 

the_bearpelt

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ActionDan said:
A Man is someone who knows how to act with Chivalry, and being a Gentleman, but when the time calls for it, defend anything and anyone you love. Anyone who treats women like a walking sex toy, or their own human punching bag should be eliminated.
I like how you think. The best parts of old-fashioned social ideology.
 

Lyx

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Pirate Kitty said:
Well, I'm not a 'girly girly', but I'm feminine and gay. So what gender am I?

I still don't quiet get it XD
"Gender" just is a criteria - similiar to how you could rate the "looks" of something, or the "sound" of something, or the "behaviour" of something. There may be a name for what you describe, haven't checked that. To be honest, i'm not that hot on - regarding render - again creating all kinds of terms to put people in a drawer, because: There are so many possibilities, that creating a handful of new words may just result in creating another set of stereotypes, instead of breaking lose from them.

I too don't fit any existing stereotype, just like you.
 

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Private Custard said:
octafish said:
Private Custard said:
What I always post when people ask this question.

If

IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

Rudyard Kipling.
Damn Kipling Ninjas...
There is one more Kipling.....and he makes exceedingly good cakes!
Ninja Custard!!!! AWAYY!!!!!!
 

ActionDan

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the_bearpelt said:
ActionDan said:
A Man is someone who knows how to act with Chivalry, and being a Gentleman, but when the time calls for it, defend anything and anyone you love. Anyone who treats women like a walking sex toy, or their own human punching bag should be eliminated.
I like how you think. The best parts of old-fashioned social ideology.
In my opinion, that is how every man should be. If they're not, then they cannot call themselves a Man.
 

Fridge

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UNKNOWNINCOGNITO said:
I'm not talking machoism here or dick size, that's just a little boys fantasy. I'm talking qualities that make a true man such as dignity and the ability to make hard decisions for a greater good or cause.

In your Opinion. What Makes a True Man ?
Its only my opinion but I think what makes someone a man is;

1. Accepting your faults and mistakes (try to learn from them).
2. Dealing with the hand that you have been given.
3. Be honest in all your contracts.
4. Give credit and respect where it is due.

Those are my 4 rules to being a man. After that its all preferance and bravado.
 

Axeli

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I don't know. What defines a true woman? Ooh, now it's a sexists question! Seriously, all the non-sexists and personality based answers here define a decent, adult, human being. Not maleness.
 

LaBambaMan

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Why does it matter what makes someone a "true man"? Isn't the important question you should be asking be "what defines a true human"?
 

Lyx

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LaBambaMan said:
Why does it matter what makes someone a "true man"? Isn't the important question you should be asking be "what defines a true human"?
Why should it matter what makes somebeing a "true ideal human"? Isn't the important question you should be asking be "What are you, how do you want to be, and (how) can you get there efficiently?".