seconded. they my be sequels, but they're sequels of great games.Dango said:Insomniac.
Yes, almost all of their games are sequels, but they've explored so many genres and put such a unique twist on each.
No, creating a thousand weapons that overpower or unbalance the game just so that people will shop in their virtual store is why their greedy. It just feels like everything that was once charming or humorous about the game has been ruthlessly exploited.Woodsey said:"And la Noire
Which arguably created a genre."
lol.
By doing what, making it free and allowing you to craft and find anything that you can buy? People who have bought stuff have had no advantage over me whatsoever, and I haven't bought anything.bob-2000 said:Yea, maybe 5 years ago, but they've gotten incredibly greedy and completely destroyed TF2 with their new products.AntonicKnight said:Valve, it may not fit the categories but it is the most selfless developer ever.
It cares for its fans by willing to risk its own money for the fan's enjoyment.
OT: I dunno, implying you can't be creative or have a "soul" (eugh) because you don't travel outside of a genre too much seems stupid.
LGS definitely! Took the words right outta my mouth. I miss those guys.veloper said:The dead ones had soul.
Looking glass studios
Troika
Origin
R.I.P.
Red Dead Redemption is not the sequel of Red Dead Revolver. It is a spiritual sequel.starwarsgeek said:Yup. Red Dead Revolver on the PS2 kicked off the IP.rolfwesselius said:Its a seguel!?starwarsgeek said:A bit of a nit-pick, but no one releases "only" sequels. And you can't claim sequels to be inherently uncreative in the same post that you praise a sequel (Red Dead Redemption).
I'd say Valve, Nintendo, Capcom, and Rockstar all qualify in different ways.
![]()
I haven't actually played Revolver, so I'll just quote Redemption's "continuity nods" from tvtropes.Nautical Honors Society said:Red Dead Redemption is not the sequel of Red Dead Revolver. It is a spiritual sequel.starwarsgeek said:Yup. Red Dead Revolver on the PS2 kicked off the IP.rolfwesselius said:Its a seguel!?starwarsgeek said:A bit of a nit-pick, but no one releases "only" sequels. And you can't claim sequels to be inherently uncreative in the same post that you praise a sequel (Red Dead Redemption).
I'd say Valve, Nintendo, Capcom, and Rockstar all qualify in different ways.
![]()
The best example of what I mean is Bioshock in relation to Bioshock Infinite.
Wow. What a gross oversimplification of one of 2010's greatest games. GTA with cowboy hats? So I guess Half Life is just a ripoff of Doom and Mass Effect is just Halo with RPG elements. Whether you like the game or not, you have to admit that RDR is much more than just a GTA clone. There has never been a game that captures the essence of the wild west genre quite like RDR has, or even any above-average western games at all.Davey Woo said:By this you mean, copy-pasting Grand Theft Auto and then giving all the characters cowboy hats... Real innovation there.rolfwesselius said:I would say Rockstar surprisingly because of their last 2 games were HUGE risks in terms of
finances.
Red dead redemption
A western reanimating an entire genre.
Oh, that's interesting. I always assumed the similarity was an unfortunate coincidence.starwarsgeek said:Yup. Red Dead Revolver on the PS2 kicked off the IP.
![]()
I don't expect either of us will get anywhere with this, but I enjoy TF2 much more now than I used to. All of the new updates have added a ridiculous amount of depth to the game, and I honestly think the Mann Co. store is beneficial. There are no game-breaking items on there, despite what everyone says, the items don't ruin the stylisation, and it is possible to finely customise your playstyle while still participating in a sort of item collection metagame.bob-2000 said:Yea, maybe 5 years ago, but they've gotten incredibly greedy and completely destroyed TF2 with their new products.AntonicKnight said:Valve, it may not fit the categories but it is the most selfless developer ever.
It cares for its fans by willing to risk its own money for the fan's enjoyment.
I think Bioware. I know that they do a lot of sequels, but they're one of the only studios that focuses greatly on plot. Hell, even DA2 had really great characters despite the pressure that EA put on the studio.