What does the Confederate flag represent to you?
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I agree with you there. Just many people are afraid of losing that sense of identity. I identify myself as English because it gives other people a very quick over view of my basic background. Ideally I think it would be great if we could all just be citizens of earth rather than of different countries. I'd like to think we're evolved enough as a species and a society to leave that all behind. Wise enough to leave war behind, but sadly this is just idealistic hippie bullshit :/Verlander said:That's completely 100% my opinion as well. It's almost like people didn't see Independence Day!Boundless Apathy said:
Oh for sure, but those identities are borrowed at best. I think it's one of the things that makes Britain so great is the melting pot of cultures and our fairly erratic history. It's all opinion thoughTechno Squidgy said:I think the refusal of the identification of British is the fear of the loss of the further identification as English, Scottish, Welsh, etc.
EDIT: Also I find it funny that it's considered a country made up of countries. Mad stuff
About the only thing i see here is that not everyone agree's about what the Confederate flag represents, and never will, The Confederate Flag means different things to different people, and as Americans, doesn't everyone have a right to their own opinion??? there are no winners here, just be proud of who you are and where you come from, that's all that matters.
It doesn't really mean much to me, I'm not so into the history of the United States' civil war.
It reminds me of the flag of a faction in Starcraft I though.
It reminds me of the flag of a faction in Starcraft I though.
Frankly, anyone who is pro-Confederacy loses serious respect in my eyes. Some people just won't bring themselves to admit their ancestors might have been in the wrong.
A time in American History when there was an epic war to decide the fate the nation. Both sides have good points, their merits, and each deserves an equal measure of respect. However, what upsets me from time to time, is how people view the Confederate Flag as an "automatic symbol" of racism. You have to understand the farming and agricultural community life of the times back then. There are also varying degrees of ignorance in regards to the leaders of each side.
Abraham Lincoln did for nothing other than political gain and for the Federal Government to undermine statehoods and individual territories in my opinion. Not to mention he had a rather scathing view of black people. He believed their place was beneath the white race.
Whereas, Robert E. Lee, the guy who is labelled the badguy for the Union, had the most humble, down to earth, humane, Christian viewpoint of the blacks. Not to mention he and his fellow men believed slavery would be abolished as time went on and the African Americans would slowly be incorporated into the society. There's even an account where he begged a slave to do something he needed done, the slave didn't oblige, and he had to whip the guy. He later said he hated that he "inherited his father's terrible legacy" or something to that effect.
Even then, look it at it from this viewpoint: Where would the recently freed black man have to go? It wouldn't be until around roughly a century later that they would recieve TRUE rights. It may seem like I am siding with the slave-owning people in my words, but I am just thinking of the practical thinking behind it. There are also numerous theories as to what would have happened if the Confederacy would have won...but we'll never know.
With that being said...it represents the right to one's individualism, one's ideals, and one's perspectives within a war between conflicts of interest. Unfortunately, several evil-hearted individuals use it for their own negative means in today's society. AKA: The true, hatemongering redneck man who refuses to understand it represents the legacy, pride, and culture of the black man in America's past.
It's perfectly fair and valid to it from either perspective in my opinion. Some individuals within the minority communities have valid points for it. However, I would argue it's more historical...but then again I'll know what it's like to see it from the side of a black man or otherwise. I can only see what I see from my historical viewpoint.
Nice to see a good, open topic about this.
Abraham Lincoln did for nothing other than political gain and for the Federal Government to undermine statehoods and individual territories in my opinion. Not to mention he had a rather scathing view of black people. He believed their place was beneath the white race.
Whereas, Robert E. Lee, the guy who is labelled the badguy for the Union, had the most humble, down to earth, humane, Christian viewpoint of the blacks. Not to mention he and his fellow men believed slavery would be abolished as time went on and the African Americans would slowly be incorporated into the society. There's even an account where he begged a slave to do something he needed done, the slave didn't oblige, and he had to whip the guy. He later said he hated that he "inherited his father's terrible legacy" or something to that effect.
Even then, look it at it from this viewpoint: Where would the recently freed black man have to go? It wouldn't be until around roughly a century later that they would recieve TRUE rights. It may seem like I am siding with the slave-owning people in my words, but I am just thinking of the practical thinking behind it. There are also numerous theories as to what would have happened if the Confederacy would have won...but we'll never know.
With that being said...it represents the right to one's individualism, one's ideals, and one's perspectives within a war between conflicts of interest. Unfortunately, several evil-hearted individuals use it for their own negative means in today's society. AKA: The true, hatemongering redneck man who refuses to understand it represents the legacy, pride, and culture of the black man in America's past.
It's perfectly fair and valid to it from either perspective in my opinion. Some individuals within the minority communities have valid points for it. However, I would argue it's more historical...but then again I'll know what it's like to see it from the side of a black man or otherwise. I can only see what I see from my historical viewpoint.
Nice to see a good, open topic about this.