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During the battle of Stalingrad in WW2, Valeriya Gnarovskaya, a medic was working at an aid station when a German attack broke through the line with 2 Tiger tanks. She grabbed a bag of grenades and threw herself under one of the tanks, blowing it up and possibly repulsing the attack Possibly one of the most Metal deaths ever.
 

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During the battle of Stalingrad in WW2, Valeriya Gnarovskaya, a medic was working at an aid station when a German attack broke through the line with 2 Tiger tanks. She grabbed a bag of grenades and threw herself under one of the tanks, blowing it up and possibly repulsing the attack Possibly one of the most Metal deaths ever.
Post that on Sabaton's Twitter, she'll have a song about her within 12 months. Assuming there isn't one already.
 

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During the battle of Stalingrad in WW2, Valeriya Gnarovskaya, a medic was working at an aid station when a German attack broke through the line with 2 Tiger tanks. She grabbed a bag of grenades and threw herself under one of the tanks, blowing it up and possibly repulsing the attack Possibly one of the most Metal deaths ever.
According to wiki, she killed at least 70 German soldiers by herself previously. That seems more than a little unlikely, though.
 

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Did you turn it off on just your phone, or also on your Chrome app as well? If you use it that is.
I don't really know, I just opened chrome on my phone, saw a little cog wheel at the top of the river of sewage that normally appears every time I want to use it, clicked it out of curiousity and discovered I could dam that river.
 

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That the word "clue" is derived from the word "clew", i.e. a ball of yarn. It's named such because Thesues used a clew to guide himself out of the labyrinth of the minotaur.

Question for native English speakers:
1. Have you ever heard the word clew before?
2. If so, is that a word you actively use?

(for additional trivia: the Swedish word for "hint" is "ledtråd", which literally means "leading thread"; also derived from the same myth)
 

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That the word "clue" is derived from the word "clew", i.e. a ball of yarn. It's named such because Thesues used a clew to guide himself out of the labyrinth of the minotaur.
Oooh that's how he clewed his way out of the labyrinth ?
 
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So, learnt of another US war crime they don't teach anyone about rather conveniently.



It's vital to understand the full spectrum and processes - conscious and subconscious - of propaganda no matter where you are if an informed democracy is honestly desired and believed in. Anyone who wants to appropriate their country's achievements onto their identity to bolster their pride should be equally able to learn and appropriate their nation's literal war crimes, fatal/harmful moral/ethical failings all held bubbling underneath unfettered omission, if not outright untruths as well.


A US B-26 bomber drops a bomb on the North Korean city of Wonsan in 1951.
A US B-26 bomber drops a bomb on the North Korean city of Wonsan in 1951. Interim Archives/Getty Images

Perhaps no country on Earth is more misunderstood by Americans than North Korea. Though the country's leaders are typically portrayed as buffoonish, even silly, in fact they are deadly serious in their cruelty and skill at retaining power. Though the country is seen as Soviet-style communist, in fact it is better understood as a holdover of Japanese fascism.

And there is another misconception, one that Americans might not want to hear but that is important for understanding the hermit kingdom: Yes, much of its anti-Americanism is cynically manufactured as a propaganda tool, and yes, it is often based on lies. But no, it is not all lies. The US did in fact do something terrible, even evil to North Korea, and while that act does not explain, much less forgive, North Korea's many abuses since, it is not totally irrelevant either.

That act was this: In the early 1950s, during the Korean War, the US dropped more bombs on North Korea than it had dropped in the entire Pacific theater during World War II. This carpet bombing, which included 32,000 tons of napalm, often deliberately targeted civilian as well as military targets, devastating the country far beyond what was necessary to fight the war. Whole cities were destroyed, with many thousands of innocent civilians killed and many more left homeless and hungry.

For Americans, the journalist Blaine Harden has written, this bombing was "perhaps the most forgotten part of a forgotten war," even though it was almost certainly "a major war crime." Yet it shows that North Korea's hatred of America "is not all manufactured," he wrote. "It is rooted in a fact-based narrative, one that North Korea obsessively remembers and the United States blithely forgets."

And the US, as Harden recounted in a column earlier this year, knew exactly what it was doing:

"Over a period of three years or so, we killed off — what — 20 percent of the population," Air Force Gen. Curtis LeMay, head of the Strategic Air Command during the Korean War, told the Office of Air Force History in 1984. Dean Rusk, a supporter of the war and later secretary of state, said the United States bombed "everything that moved in North Korea, every brick standing on top of another." After running low on urban targets, U.S. bombers destroyed hydroelectric and irrigation dams in the later stages of the war, flooding farmland and destroying crops.
Historians dispute just how important this bombing really was in making North Korea the country that it is today; some say it was formative in shaping the young nation's history, others that North Korea was already on its way to becoming the hermit kingdom and that its leaders merely exploited the bombing to get there.

As the North Korea scholar B. R. Myers points out in The Cleanest Race, perhaps the definitive study of the North Korean worldview, anti-American propaganda was already in full swing before the bombing began. Since then, it has not focused as much on the American bombing (which Myers, like most scholars, considers a war crime) as you might expect:

As might be expected, the Korean War occupies a central place in anti-American propaganda, but the [propaganda] dwells less on the US Air Force's extensive bombing campaign (which is hard to reconcile with the myth of the protective leader) than on village massacres and other isolated outrages.
Yet even if the bombing did not cause North Korea's obsessive hatred of America and Americans, it did help to focus it. The effects of the bombing were felt nearly universally, the suffering it caused among the first shared experiences for North Koreans. Unlike the propaganda, which only recounted supposed American crimes, here was a real American crime that everyone could see for themselves, and indeed had likely affected them personally. How could it not be formative?

American bombing, to be clear, did not transform North Korea from a nice country into a bad one; the seeds of the country's generations-long fascist rule had already taken root by the early 1950s, and indeed it is worth remembering that the North had launched the war in the first place. But that bombing did end up abetting, however unintentionally, the Kim family project of creating a paranoid, volatile, and oppressive bunker state.

You can see this, for example, in Pyongyang, the North Korean capital, which was all but razed by American bombing. As Myers points out, "The destruction of the original city by American bombs enabled the regime to re-design it from scratch as a grand and enduring work of propaganda in its own right."



The North Korean capital of Pyongyang. At bottom, the city in 1953, after an estimated 75% of it was destroyed by US bombing. At top, the city in 1964 after reconstruction. (Keystone-France/Gamma-Keystone via Getty)

The North Korean capital of Pyongyang. At bottom, the city in 1953, after an estimated 75 percent of it was destroyed by US bombing. At top, the city in 1964 after reconstruction. (Keystone-France/Gamma-Keystone via Getty)

The symbolism of this is haunting: The US, in its ruthless destruction, made it easier for the North Korean leaders to rebuild their shattered city into a physical embodiment of Orwellian dystopia. The blame for the North Korean project still rests fully with those leaders, who knew exactly what they were doing. But it is a reminder that the United States once lent those leaders a helping hand in converting their nation into a fascist holdover.

In the rare moments when we do talk about the US bombing of North Korea, it can be easy to get lost in debating its long-term political consequences. But the bombing primarily mattered at the time, and still matters today, not because it was politically counterproductive, but because it was horrific and unjust.

You can glimpse both the humanitarian and political consequences in an alarmed diplomatic cable that North Korea's foreign minister sent to the United Nations, which was nominally leading the war effort, in January 1951. Scholar Adam Cathcart dug up the cable a few days ago, which is what got me thinking again about the bombing that America has largely forgotten. Here are some excerpts from the cable, haunting to read today:

ON JANUARY 3 AT 10:30 AM, AN ARMADE OF 82 FLYING FORTRESSES LOOSED THEIR DEATH-DEALING LOAD ON THE CITY OF PYONGYANG. ...
HUNDREDS OF TONS OF BOMBS AND INCENDIARY COMPOUND WERE SIMULTANEOUSLY DROPPED THROUGHOUT THE CITY, CAUSING ANNIHILATING FIRES. IN ORDER TO PREVENT THE EXTINCTION OF THESE FIRES, THE TRANS-ATLANTIC BARBARIANS BOMBED THE CITY WITH DELAYED-ACTION HIGH-EXPLOSIVE BOMBS WHICH EXPLODED AT INTERVALS THROUGHOUT FOR A WHOLE DAY, MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE PEOPLE TO COME OUT ONTO THE STREETS. THE ENTIRE CITY HAS NOW BEEN BURNING, ENVELOPED IN FLAMES, FOR TWO DAYS. BY THE SECOND DAY 7,812 CIVILIANS' HOUSES HAD BEEN BURNT DOWN. THE AMERICANS WERE WELL AWARE THAT THERE WERE NO MILITARY OBJECTIVES LEFT IN PYONGYANG. ...
THE NUMBER OF INHABITANTS OF PYONGYANG KILLED BY BOMB SPLINTERS, BURNT ALIVE AND SUFFOCATED BY SMOKE IS INCALCULABLE, SINCE NO COMPUTATION IS POSSIBLE. SOME FIFTY THOUSAND INHABITANTS REMAIN IN THE CITY, WHICH BEFORE THE WAR HAD A POPULATION OF FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND.
Even in the English translation from the original Russian, the seeds of North Korea's now famously vituperative and conspiratorial rhetoric are easy to see; there is an odd reference to "Wall Street bosses" supposedly driving the war.

But while today's North Korean anti-American rhetoric is so often filled with obvious distortions and lies and thus easy to dismiss, this piece of anti-American rhetoric is chillingly real. That makes the cable jarring to read even beyond the sheer awful suffering it describes. It was a moment when the official North Korean characterization of America, one that we today rightly consider propagandistic nonsense, had a lot of truth to it.
Is why I fucking hate patriotism in any form. It's almost entirely dependent on maintaining lies, misconceptions and total omissions to fluff the voting public till the next overflow of immense tragedies, which not only encourages often violent or aggressive tribalism on its own, but also feeds other countries' patriotism against your patriotism continuing the eternal cycle of fear and international aggression.
 

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I love stuff like this, intellectual over-analysis of something very common and mundane, usually in words way above my paygrade. But in this case, it bugs me since I can't unhear the difference now despite having never thought about it a single day of my 43 years. I sounded like an idiot in my car; I kept saying "strong" out loud trying to "remember" which way I said it before I knew this shit was a thing.

 

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Hot take: when the ensuing wars begin, am taking a firm pro-orca stance and will be open to discussions with their leaders about being a spy informant species traitor;


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Orcas have mainly directed their efforts at sailboats, making a beeline for the rudder. (Image credit: Shutterstock)

Orcas have attacked and sunk a third boat off the Iberian coast of Europe, and experts now believe the behavior is being copied by the rest of the population.

Three orcas (Orcinus orca), also known as killer whales, struck the yacht on the night of May 4 in the Strait of Gibraltar, off the coast of Spain, and pierced the rudder. "There were two smaller and one larger orca," skipper Werner Schaufelberger told the German publication Yacht. "The little ones shook the rudder at the back while the big one repeatedly backed up and rammed the ship with full force from the side."

Schaufelberger said he saw the smaller orcas imitate the larger one. "The two little orcas observed the bigger one's technique and, with a slight run-up, they too slammed into the boat." Spanish coast guards rescued the crew and towed the boat to Barbate, but it sank at the port entrance.

Two days earlier, a pod of six orcas assailed another sailboat navigating the strait. Greg Blackburn, who was aboard the vessel, looked on as a mother orca appeared to teach her calf how to charge into the rudder. "It was definitely some form of education, teaching going on," Blackburn told 9news.

Reports of aggressive encounters with orcas off the Iberian coast began in May 2020 and are becoming more frequent, according to a study published June 2022 in the journal Marine Mammal Science. Assaults seem to be mainly directed at sailing boats and follow a clear pattern, with orcas approaching from the stern to strike the rudder, then losing interest once they have successfully stopped the boat.

"The reports of interactions have been continuous since 2020 in places where orcas are found, either in Galicia or in the Strait," said co-author Alfredo López Fernandez, a biologist at the University of Aveiro in Portugal and representative of the Grupo de Trabajo Orca Atlántica, or Atlantic Orca Working Group.

Most encounters have been harmless, López Fernandez told Live Science in an email. "In more than 500 interaction events recorded since 2020 there are three sunken ships. We estimate that killer whales only touch one ship out of every hundred that sail through a location."

The spike in aggression towards boats is a recent phenomenon, López Fernandez said. Researchers think that a traumatic event may have triggered a change in the behavior of one orca, which the rest of the population has learned to imitate.

"The orcas are doing this on purpose, of course, we don't know the origin or the motivation, but defensive behavior based on trauma, as the origin of all this, gains more strength for us every day," López Fernandez said.

Experts suspect that a female orca they call White Gladis suffered a "critical moment of agony" — a collision with a boat or entrapment during illegal fishing — that flipped a behavioral switch. "That traumatized orca is the one that started this behavior of physical contact with the boat," López Fernandez said.

Orcas are social creatures that can easily learn and reproduce behaviors performed by others, according to the 2022 study. In the majority of reported cases, orcas have made a beeline for a boat's rudder and either bitten, bent or broken it.

"We do not interpret that the orcas are teaching the young, although the behavior has spread to the young vertically, simply by imitation, and later horizontally among them, because they consider it something important in their lives," López Fernandez said.

Orcas appear to perceive the behavior as advantageous, despite the risk they run by slamming into moving boat structures, López Fernandez added. Since the abnormal interactions began in 2020, four orcas belonging to a subpopulation living in Iberian waters have died, although their deaths cannot be directly linked to encounters with boats.

The unusual behavior could also be playful or what researchers call a "fad" — a behavior initiated by one or two individuals and temporarily picked up by others before it’s abandoned. "They are incredibly curious and playful animals and so this might be more of a play thing as opposed to an aggressive thing," Deborah Giles, an orca researcher at the University of Washington and at the non-profit Wild Orca, told Live Science.

As the number of incidents grows, there is increased concern both for sailors and for the Iberian orca subpopulation, which is listed as critically endangered by the IUCN Red List. The last census, in 2011, recorded just 39 Iberian orcas, according to the 2022 study. "If this situation continues or intensifies, it could become a real concern for the mariners' safety and a conservation issue for this endangered subpopulation of killer whales," the researchers wrote.
 

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Is why I fucking hate patriotism in any form. It's almost entirely dependent on maintaining lies, misconceptions and total omissions to fluff the voting public till the next overflow of immense tragedies, which not only encourages often violent or aggressive tribalism on its own, but also feeds other countries' patriotism against your patriotism continuing the eternal cycle of fear and international aggression.
I'mma just throw some Orwell in here.
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