What if GTAV sucks?

[Hawkeye21]

I actually hope GTA5 flops like an impotent flaccid penis, just because of how obnoxious the hype is becoming. Rockstar annoys me to no end, shying away from PC gamers like they are lepers or something. Now PC gamers are forced to write petitions, practically begging Rockstar to release their product on a platform that is clearly superior to current gen consoles and arguably superior to next gen? Seriously? Fuck that, Rockstar. Just fuck that.

 

[Psychobabble]

It should come as no surprise to anybody here that GTAV is going to be a huge game this fall. Its around the corner, looks phenomenal, and me and everybody I know is ultra-excited for it. Its the most expensive game ever made (setting the record for the second time), and they've already made their money back in pre orders alone.

So my question is, what if it sucks?

Not like is 6/10 meh, like 2/10, this game is horrible, glitchy, boring, ugly, the whole shebang.

What kind of effects could such a thing have on the gaming industry?

I'm aware that a big deal now is inflating development budgets, obviously budgets would be made smaller if a project that had so much money thrown at it could fail. Might publishers stop taking risks with their games? Or perhaps the opposite, a belief that failure to make new IP constantly could be a colossal failure? Maybe the gaming industry might even have a small recession, with all the negativity from the project.

Anyways, I'm interested in hearing what other people have to add to this, its definitely not going to happen, but it seems like something that isn't talked about and should be.

I wouldn't worry. If by some astronomical quirk of fate the game manages to be terrible there will still be enough feckless sycophants around willing to defend it to the death as the best thing since sliced bread.

 

[Vivi22]

Well, GTA4 was awful (in the sense that it wasn't fun and was a substantial step backwards for the series, even compared to GTA3) and it still got perfect scores and sold millions of units. I'm quite confident in saying that GTAV could be as fun as an ice pick to the temple and it would still get high scores and sell millions.

 

[shrekfan246]

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Then it would be just like Mass Effect 3.

Oh, how so? As far as I know, ME3 got all it's controversy from having a crappy ending, a lot of it fuelled by the fact that it had EA's stink all over it.

But as far as I know, it was really a matter of people not liking it's creative direction and choice regarding the ending, not so much of the game being actually BAD. And as far as I know, it didn't work with anything close to GTA V's insane budget.


Surely, GTA V being bad in every way (including being a technical mess, as the OP proposed) would raise a very different sort of outcry, and have much more significant and very different repercussions.

I think he meant more in how the general forums would become in reaction to it.

Which I'm inclined to agree with. Gaming forums have been an absolute mess since Mass Effect 3 released, and while I'm sure the content of the bitching would be different in the case of Grand Theft Auto, it would still have the same effect of completely clogging up every video game-related internet forum with insane amounts of whining and bitching.

 

[SonOfVoorhees]

It will be disappointing but im sure we will get over it. If not, and people cant get over being disappointed, then over the next 6 - 12 months people will be bitching and moaning about.

 

[legendp]

I personally wouldn't be phased (fased...whatever) if it is good or bad, as it isn't my type of game, I am not big on the free roam, I've never been that intersted in the games. I prefer a game whith a focused memorable story but big levels like tomb raider, bioshock or the original crysis (well maybe not story for crysis). (exceptions to this goes to mass effect and some others). and many are in the same boat as me. if it bombs it would be sad, but a lot of people just wouldn't care and in 6 months mostly everyone will have moved on (or atleast I hope so, or think so, atleast in my opinion)

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

I actually hope GTA5 flops like an impotent flaccid penis, just because of how obnoxious the hype is becoming. Rockstar annoys me to no end, shying away from PC gamers like they are lepers or something. Now PC gamers are forced to write petitions, practically begging Rockstar to release their product on a platform that is clearly superior to current gen consoles and arguably superior to next gen? Seriously? Fuck that, Rockstar. Just fuck that.

I can only imagine that if this were to happen to consoles you wouldn't bat an eyelid.

I mean if you and some others here are going to get angry at one studio for not bringing a game to your platform then I guess I can do that too for games that are on one or two platforms only myself.

Also getting pretty fed up with the over saturated use of the word "superior" because now all I can picture is this image for when the word is mentioned when trying to show dominance against everything else like some primitive ape.

 

[Adeptus Aspartem]

Then.. it's as good as GTA IV so people are already used to it and won't complain.

Neh, im hopin' its good. After the failure that was the 4th. Good god that game was dull & boring.

 

[DataSnake]

I can only imagine that if this were to happen to consoles you wouldn't bat an eyelid.

I mean if you and some others here are going to get angry at one studio for not bringing a game to your platform then I guess I can do that too for games that are on one or two platforms only myself.

Also getting pretty fed up with the over saturated use of the word "superior" because now all I can picture is this image for when the word is mentioned when trying to show dominance against everything else like some primitive ape.

Anything a PS3 or 360 can do, a current-gen PC can do better. The reverse is not true. That's not "trying to show dominance", it's just what happens when one platform has been advancing for seven years while the others have stayed the same. Thus, expecting a game able to run on consoles to run at least as well on PC is entirely reasonable, while expecting a PC game to perform as well on consoles just isn't.

 

[A BigCup of Tea]

Well, GTA IV was one of the most boring games I think I've played in my life.
I certainly won't be bothering with V.

IMO: Boring is worse than bad. At least bad is funny. At least bad you can enjoy with a perverted enjoyment of what a train wreck everything is.

GTA IV was far from boring, granted the world wasnt as engaging as previous GTAs and there wasnt much to do outside missions but it was still far from a "bad" or "boring" game. It was poor by GTA standards but overall it was a good game

It's good to know my subjective opinion on what bores me is completely invalidated because someone says so.
I wasn't claiming the game was boring for everyone, but it was boring for me.

i agree with you my good sir! I also found GTA IV to be quite boring, the side missions (if you can call going bowling with roman a side mission, also STOP CALLING ME EVERY 2 MINUTES!!!) and there wasn't much to do and i never actually got round to completing it as it was grey and boring, i also found the DLC to be just as dull although TBoGT did bring a little fun but not enough to interest me.

OT: I think rockstar learned from IV although not a bad game it wasn't as good as it could of been, i'm hoping V is just as much fun as san andreas and just as colourful as vice city.

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

Anything a PS3 or 360 can do, a current-gen PC can do better. The reverse is not true. That's not "trying to show dominance", it's just what happens when one platform has been advancing for seven years while the others have stayed the same. Thus, expecting a game able to run on consoles to run at least as well on PC is entirely reasonable, while expecting a PC game to perform as well on consoles just isn't.

That be true indeed but that image in my head still isn't going to go away anytime soon.

 

[rob_simple]

Nothing would change. That future you imagine where publishers are too scared to take risks with IP? We're already living in it; it's called the mainstream game industry.

I have every confidence that GTAV will be a colossal benchmark in gaming, but even if it isn't, and it crushes Rockstar completely, that's just another nail in the coffin of this bloated, stagnant industry.

What I'm saying is it's win:win.

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

I can only imagine that if this were to happen to consoles you wouldn't bat an eyelid.

I mean if you and some others here are going to get angry at one studio for not bringing a game to your platform then I guess I can do that too for games that are on one or two platforms only myself.

Also getting pretty fed up with the over saturated use of the word "superior" because now all I can picture is this image for when the word is mentioned when trying to show dominance against everything else like some primitive ape.

Anything a PS3 or 360 can do, a current-gen PC can do better. The reverse is not true. That's not "trying to show dominance", it's just what happens when one platform has been advancing for seven years while the others have stayed the same. Thus, expecting a game able to run on consoles to run at least as well on PC is entirely reasonable, while expecting a PC game to perform as well on consoles just isn't.

He isn't saying it isn't true, he's saying he imagines you as an ape when you use the word superior.

This right here, he gets it.

I see it that way because of how warped the gaming community here and everywhere else has gotten.

I don't see that word getting thrown around much in daily life.

For example, my sister had an operation years ago on her left leg muscles, the doctors said her walking normally would "improve" over time.

I didn't hear the doctors claiming she'd have a "superior" leg compared to the other or anyone elses.

I also went into a friends store today to buy a new set of earphones and asked for my friends opinion, he claimed the Skullcandy earphones were "decent and better" than the average brand no one would have heard of.

Not once did he utter "Superior" as if to downplay everything else to restrict my opinion and choice to just one sole product.

All I see on here when "Superior" is mentioned is it meaning the end all to be all, meaning everything else is just poppycock and shouldn't be bothered with because that usually comes right after mentioning "Superior" which just shuts everyone out from having an actual opinion on here because if someone were to mention their preference for a console you can bet someone will simply retort "yeah well PC's are superior and vast".

That gets pretty dang annoying if you ask me, why can't we just simply state "I like this platform for what it offers", not "I like this platform because it's superior to others and all gens and next gens are total fucking shit and don't hold a candle to a PC".

 

[Hawkeye21]

Also getting pretty fed up with the over saturated use of the word "superior" because now all I can picture is this image for when the word is mentioned when trying to show dominance against everything else like some primitive ape.

Are you going to argue that 8 year old hardware is not inferior to modern PCs? Cause XBOX360 came out in Nov. 2005, and it's specs wasnt spectacular even then. Have you any idea what kind of restrictions does hardware as old as that place on graphic fidelity and gameplay?

EDIT: ah, never mind, you just don't like that word "superior". I disagree with you there, I think that word fits reality perfectly.

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

EDIT: ah, never mind, you just don't like that word "superior". I disagree with you there, I think that word fits reality perfectly.

That would be an impasse mate and I'm glad it has been made clear.

You can think it suits and I can think it doesn't, that's all that matters.

 

[Brotha Desmond]

I personally found GTA IV dreadfully boring. Never ending calls from your cousin, bland missions, a big world with nothing in it. If GTA V is anything even remotely like it then I will not enjoy it at all.

 

[shootthebandit]

im so confident that if GTA V sucks I will eat my own left nut

Its very unlikely that it will suck, I mean VERY unlikely given the expense of this game, the experience and resources available to rockstar not to mention they have a very proven track record and the series has an unprecedented loyal fan base

by whose standards does it have to suck by? if everyone else hates it but you like it does it suck?

Theres a difference between being objectively bad and subjectively bad. For example im not keen on lord of the rings but i can respect it as an excellent story and piece of cinema but it just doesnt interest me

Take for example ride to hell: retribution. This game is just bad period

Granted not everyone can enjoy it and im not saying everyone should (the world would be terrible if we all liked the same stuff) but i think its nigh on impossible for it to objectively suck. I can safely say that objectively GTA IV didnt suck despite being a huge drop in the series standards...i take that back, using the phrase "drop in standards" was a bit harsh. The studio was trying something new and it didnt work as well as they planned (but was still without a doubt a good game). They have learned from their mistakes with GTA IV and taken on board some of its positives

 

[shootthebandit]

Well, GTA IV was one of the most boring games I think I've played in my life.
I certainly won't be bothering with V.

IMO: Boring is worse than bad. At least bad is funny. At least bad you can enjoy with a perverted enjoyment of what a train wreck everything is.

GTA IV was far from boring, granted the world wasnt as engaging as previous GTAs and there wasnt much to do outside missions but it was still far from a "bad" or "boring" game. It was poor by GTA standards but overall it was a good game

It's good to know my subjective opinion on what bores me is completely invalidated because someone says so.
I wasn't claiming the game was boring for everyone, but it was boring for me.

This made me laugh I had no idea we had mindreaders on the Escapist who know you better than you know yourself go home weaver your subjected opinion is invalidated .

Of course your opinion doesnt matter because only my opinion counts Sorry if it came across that way. I was pointing out that despite its short comings and the fact it is a little "boring" compared to its predecessors. Overall (in my opinion) it was actually a good game

I am more interested to see if the game turns much profit because I frankly havent heard much about this game at all I have seen literally zero hype for it from anybody even my friends who like GTA (or at least used to as I dont know many who enjoyed 4 and none who liked San Andreas).

Rockstar arent big on hype they tend to keep quiet until the last week or so and ocassionally trickling out bits and pieces

I take it you havent visited IGN in the past month. They have been hyping it like mad

 

[Dajmin]

I actually really enjoyed GTA4, but then I hadn't played a GTA game since 3 (no I never played San Andreas, deal with it) so I wasn't expecting the list of endless unrealistic fun-but-ultimately-outside-the-realms-of-possibility stuff that a lot of people seemed to expect. Which I think is cool because we've got Saints Row for that.

The world looked great, the mechanics of everything flowed nicely, the AI was good. In fact, I enjoyed just driving around the city within the law, and I think that's a good sign of an enjoyable environment - I didn't need to feel like I was a superhuman to do it.

Sure, it had a few annoying problems. Trying to keep everyone happy and getting endless calls from everyone was frustrating, but overall I think it worked well. I think the main problem was people just expecting "out there" craziness and were disappointed when they were pulled into a more realistic setting. But I like that and I've got high hopes for GTA5.

 

[MasterOfHisOwnDomain]

What if GTAV sucks?

Then it will be like the rest of the GTA series!