What is Love? Does it exist?
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Ooooh, I love it when people hate me. Seeing the anger and hatred in people lets me know that I've been right about them all along.GenericAmerican said:
You're a vicious sort, aren't you? You don't know someone, but it's just so... EASY to make generalizations, isn't it? So easy to label someone as this or that. So easy to say, "They're not like me, they're a bad person". I love it. Hate me more, please. Make up more stories to convince yourself you're right! That's the greatest pleasure.
Damn. Just got a new idea for a thread though. 'What is an apology? Does it exist?"Fawcks said:
I'm not following youFawcks said:
"seems to be some emotion"
well love is an emotion so where is the confusion
"emotion brewed up in our mind"
all emotions are brewed up in the mind, they are chemicals
"likely to promote propagation of the species"
Human mating requires a pair of humans, love facilitates (rewards) human pair bonding (since we are only talking about romantic love) says nothing of loves existance or lack of.
Love is impossible to understand unless you've been in it. If you don't get it, you tend to try and analyse it too much and look incredibly stupid.
Unfortunately, it doesn't stop people from trying.
Unfortunately, it doesn't stop people from trying.
I'm trying to differentiate love between the romantic love portrayed in society (Which isn't exclusive to two pair love; You can also "love" your mother or father), and the sensations it causes you to feel via chemical. However, do you really feel that way? When push comes to shove, do you stand to your ideals? I don't think so.jamesworkshop said:
There was a time when I thought like you did. I was bouncing from one short, miserable, relationship to another. Never comfortable, certainly never happy. I thought love was a crock of crap people made up because it was something I'd never experienced for myself. I couldn't imagine limiting myself to just one girl because none of them made me happy. Marriage was an utter joke.
I grew up on campy 80s movies that told me women want a hero who will hold the door open for them and give them flowers. When you act that way to real life women, they smirk, and then crush you under the feel of their shoe. I was convinced it was all a horrible game that I wasn't given the instruction manual for.
Then I met my current girlfriend. We've been in a relationship for three years now, getting married this Spring. I'd say.... YES. Love is real. There's no one I'd rather be with than my girlfriend. I can't IMAGINE someone I'd rather be with. Her flaws only make her more appealing to me. Where I'm angry she's happy. She's indecisive, I'm impulsive. I'm sit inside and play video games, she's lets go for a walk to no where in particular. I'm RPG and MMOs, she's Metal Gear Solid and Pokemon. We complete each other. I'd be utterly and completely lost without her. It's a feeling of completeness that you can't even begin to describe. It's like trying to describe color to someone who's never been able to see or taste to someone who's never eaten food.
All that pain I've gone through only makes me appreciate her more.
So, in short, yes love exists. When you find that person that's perfect for you, it's a very powerful feeling. It's more than "omg I want to sex you" or even "omg I want to be with you" it's a "My life would lose all meaning if you went away"
I grew up on campy 80s movies that told me women want a hero who will hold the door open for them and give them flowers. When you act that way to real life women, they smirk, and then crush you under the feel of their shoe. I was convinced it was all a horrible game that I wasn't given the instruction manual for.
Then I met my current girlfriend. We've been in a relationship for three years now, getting married this Spring. I'd say.... YES. Love is real. There's no one I'd rather be with than my girlfriend. I can't IMAGINE someone I'd rather be with. Her flaws only make her more appealing to me. Where I'm angry she's happy. She's indecisive, I'm impulsive. I'm sit inside and play video games, she's lets go for a walk to no where in particular. I'm RPG and MMOs, she's Metal Gear Solid and Pokemon. We complete each other. I'd be utterly and completely lost without her. It's a feeling of completeness that you can't even begin to describe. It's like trying to describe color to someone who's never been able to see or taste to someone who's never eaten food.
All that pain I've gone through only makes me appreciate her more.
So, in short, yes love exists. When you find that person that's perfect for you, it's a very powerful feeling. It's more than "omg I want to sex you" or even "omg I want to be with you" it's a "My life would lose all meaning if you went away"
I've been in love.TheRightToArmBears said:
It's impossible to understand a topic on a forum unless you've read it. If you haven't read it, you tend to try and respond based on only the OP, and you look incredibly stupid for your presumptions.
Unfortunately, doesn't stop people from trying...
I'm in a wonderful relationship, i love the girl i'm with...but i do agree with the opening post! Atleast the bit that true love is mostly made up by society;
I believe that humans have the same basic instincts as all other living creatures on this planet: To survive and reproduce. But humans have this weird emotion called jealousy, and maybe inheritance of family properties, knowing who's the father of your child and stuff like that had something to do with it too; that made people decide to choose and CLAIM someone to love and marry.
In personal experience; I am in love. But i could easily fall in love with others, as i have been in love with others in the past (I trust you all in not telling my girlfriend
). So does love exist? yes, there are partners who you will love more then others, but true love? no, it's a fairy tale
I believe that humans have the same basic instincts as all other living creatures on this planet: To survive and reproduce. But humans have this weird emotion called jealousy, and maybe inheritance of family properties, knowing who's the father of your child and stuff like that had something to do with it too; that made people decide to choose and CLAIM someone to love and marry.
In personal experience; I am in love. But i could easily fall in love with others, as i have been in love with others in the past (I trust you all in not telling my girlfriend
). So does love exist? yes, there are partners who you will love more then others, but true love? no, it's a fairy tale
You're right, it is incredibly easy to generalize. Incredibly easy to label someone without ever meeting them, and only reading a couple posts on the internet.Fawcks said:
But I do not consider you a 'bad person' and I do not hate you; can't hate someone I have never met, unless we end up arguing until the mods decide to suspend us or something, which I do not want to happen.
And by 'make up more stories', I hope you don't think I was bullshitting with my examples.
My assumptions about you, and your friends may be completely untrue, I am only making assumptions from you're other posts.
But when I say what a true friend will do, I am citing examples from my life; not making things up.
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Again, been in a similar relationship. We were supposed to be married this summer. Didn't happen. So it's not that I don't understand what love feels like, I'm wondering as to whether or not it's real; or, if it's going to last.Darkauthor81 said:
Many people feel exactly as you do about their fiance/significant other. Do you not think 80% of people you ask wouldn't describe their relationship with the one they love the same way? If so, why does marriage end in divorce over 90% of the time?
Because those feelings are, simply put, there to trick you (in my opinion). Once they fade, people don't stay together. I have the numbers to prove it.
It's hard to say if I'm a good person or not. I don't know. I do tend to be overly generous, and people have taken advantage of me for this in the past. So, no, I don't think I'm the kind of person who does those things like refuses to drive out to a friend. The reason I don't emotionally invest in my friends is likely because it's not of any great value. It's hard to say I wouldn't miss them when they're gone, or maybe I really don't care. Won't know until it happens (well, again, anyway). I'd be very disappointed if I were upset, however. That'd be a second error in judgment, and I should know better by now.GenericAmerican said:
Then 90% of people are doing it wrong. Most of them jump into marriage within the first year. You see, we all have masks we wear. We display who we think people want to see. It takes a long time, years even, for that mask to fall away and for people to see each other for who they are and to see people for who they are and not who we want them to be. Then there's always the "I'm getting married because I'm afraid of being alone" which is exactly what my mother did and how I came into being. Which has been the guiding force in my life to never settle. Find that perfect person or find happiness being alone. There is no happiness in the middle ground.Fawcks said: