Dragonlayer said:
Meriatressia said:
One of the worst was a really stupid thing were some idiots said brute Splicers in BioShock 2 are gay.
This is a giant splicer, who took a lot of psysical plasmids. It's macho. It's quite clearly a macho male who tried to be more macho with plasmids.
But somehow, this masculine being, is gay. They somehow think the traits of a masculine man, are gay. All of them. They really think that all the brute splicers are gay. Which is statistically immpossible.
No, it's a a macho man who made himself bigger. That's it. It's quite blatantly a heavy, thuggish, splicer.
The worst was someone who drew a female brute splicer, with a tiny handbag and girly things. Who somehow did'nt grasp that if a person was lesbian, they probabely display normal female things or masculine things.
And someone who becomes a brute splicer is deliberately trying to make themselves bigger. They don't care about stereotypical female things. There's plasmids to make a female prettier, they'd take them if they wanted to be girly.
The increasingly desperate and pathetic arguments they come up with are cretinously moronic.
It's even more moronic when splicers live in Rapture, a place that does'nt care about the usual predujices of the 40s and 50s. A lesbian or homosexual would have no problem being open about it. There would be no hiding it.
This is disturbing, because, some people clearly think that masculine things are gay now.
A man can't be macho, without being a closet gay. A character is manly and masculine. And some moron thinks they are gay. They can't just be a straight man.
That is fucked up.
This romanticisation of lesbians and gays has gone way too far.
The most fucked up thing in fandoms is shipping and slashwork. And changing the sexuality of characters for no reason.
Especially when a character is very straight or very lesbian or gay, etc.
Boone in Fallout New Vegas, of all people, get's turned gay! Boone was married to a woman, he is a very straight, serious, man, who adored his wife. But no, some idiots turn him gay.
Adam Jenson could'nt be more straight if he tried. He was with Megan for years. He is a awesome, manly, man.
But no, there's a load of morons who make him gay and with that richardhead Francis Pritchard.
Both are very straight men.
You know that Jordan Thomas, one of the developers who worked on the first
Bioshock actually said the Brute Splicer is a closeted homosexual? Now if people are just equating "masculine" with "flaming gay" then that's stupidity on their part, but I distinctly remember the Brute having loads of dialogue that implied he was repressed; stuff like "Argh, get the hell away from me you nonce!" when being attacked or "Don't need no women when I've got a best friend like you" when hypnotized.
Furthermore, where the hell did you get the idea that Rapture doesn't have the prejudices of the time? Nobody underwent any kind of progressive education program when they moved to Rapture, it was just "Do you have enough money to live here and do you like fish and chips?". There weren't any open homosexuals, no blacks/Asians/general non-whites in positions of power (with maybe two or three exceptions that were based entirely on their personal relationship to Andrew Ryan), certainly no religious or political freedom....ironically enough, in certain regards Columbia was a more forward thinking city then Rapture.
I'm with you on the shipping point though: I don't care what relationships you foster in your fan-work, it's just irritating to go onto DeviantArt and see *yet* another gay
Assassin's Creed piece on the frontpage. These characters are not gay!
Rapture is free of predjudices, just like it's free of social and religious control.
There is a very clear homosexual in Sander Cohen. A man who slept with 4 men at once, and was not hiding anything. He spent the entire time having sex with men who had their own agendas.
And he was the boss of a area.
Most of the leads are female, Sander Cohen was a very high boss.
Bioshock 2 had some stupid things in it that were'nt in Bioshock 1.
There is zero sexism or racism in B1. But B2 had sexism and racism for no reason at all.
It does'nt go with it, and it sticks out like a sore thumb.
Rapture most definately was free from predjudices and various social controls.
But worthy, stupid, bits of bad writing added things that did'nt exist.
The brute splicers make no sense whatsoever, in any way at all. Especially when you look at the high end boss Sander Cohen. A man who was hiding nothing at all.
I don't care what the idiots who wrote some of Bioshock 2 say. It would'nt be the first time writers have changed their tune to suit fans.
These are the same people who thought killing off the lead was clever.
