What stupid breach of the law do you hate?

[Jamboxdotcom]

child abuse. but really, any kind of extreme selfishness bugs the shit out of me.

Well... umm... I'll make up my own rules then, if you like little kids in 'that' way, you've already committed a crime. There. The law of Anjel is now in effect!

Haha, might seem like a good idea in theory but in practice it would prevent non-offending pedophiles getting therapy to reduce the chance of them abusing kids, and would be virtually impossible to convict someone of unless someone invents a mind-reading machine ;-)

Next order of business is to invent a mind-reading machine then. I'm on a roll here!

i used to feel the same way as Anjel, but as i currently know a recovering pedophile (who sought treatment before he committed any crimes), i've gotta take the opposing stance now. there's a reason we don't have a category for "thought crimes".

 

[ace_of_something]

I work in law enforcement... so can I say all of them?
Most people I can sympathize, I understand life ain't easy. People make mistakes.

Except, I reserve a special hatred for drug dealers.

I'd elaborate but that would make people feel they need to argue with me and pick apart what I say. I've had that argument about 100 times already on this site and don't care to again.

I can't help but wonder, what's your opinion on prostitution? Plenty of countries have made it work and almost completely safe (safe as anything else, from walking down the sidewalk to driving), so it's not like it's something that couldn't be made safe. The only reason anyone gets harmed is because it's illegal. Plus, taxing it could help fix the economy. Just about every legal guy alive would end up hiring one.

The types of women/men who become prostitutes tend to have some serious issues that need help rather than taken advantage of by a pimp (while we're at it I fucking hate it when anyone uses the word 'pimp' as a positive thing). It is completely valid the idea of legalization gets rid of some of the legal elements but not all of them. Strippers for example are completely legal in nearly all areas. What are some of the stereotypes you think of with strippers? Daddy issues, drug problems, abusive relationships.
Lastly in my experience, once upon a time when I was working in Vice/gang unit, the people going to see prostitutes are not lonely scientists they tend to be people who are just as likely to rob the prostitute as they are to conduct business.
However in the case of parts of Nevada where it's legal it has to be on a specific premises rather than anywhere on the street. That seems to help with a lot of those problems. The other thing is the types that see prostitutes that aren't psychos tend to be married (with kids).
Not sure how legalizing it will help those weak willed individuals but some people are beyond help.

That all being said, legalization of it is something that i am okay with. Only if it's very very tightly controlled. STD checks, rubbers are required, only in a cathouse, etc.
Mostly because even when I was on vice I felt unless the pimp had his fingers in some other illegal pies it was a waste of time.

Illegal Pies would be a great band name

 

[ace_of_something]

whats it called when an 18-legal- year old is having sex with a 16-minor- year old.
or is that against anything?

If you live in the united states MOST states the age of consent is 16... just saying. However, there are a number of websites that explain the consent ages in various regions. My state for example it's 'age 16' unless the elder party is under 20 than it's "as long as they aren't more than 4 years younger than you"

It sounds reasonable and all but it actually makes things more complicated and tricky to prosecute when the need does actually arise.

I just think junior high and senior high school should be separate.

There is a complete cutoff at 14 though. So yeah. No middle schoolers. See what I mean? overly complicated.

 

[FalloutJack]

...you're not allowed to cross highways? I had no idea, and I DO drive. My guess is your cop was just bored.

Exactly! Who knows this shit? I'm a man on foot. That guy was just looking for someone to hassle.

 

[radioactive lemur]

i dont like genocide it's like murder put 1000 time worse. that not a opinion that is math.

Genocide, when it is done, is always legal and carried out by authorities, so it is not a "crime" per se.

Rwanda would like a word with you.

Rwanda is an extremely rare case of extrajudicial genocide. 9 times out of 10 it is carried out by the State and agents of the state (police). And when one thinks of Genocide, one tends more to think of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Armenian genocide etc.

Maybe, but even if it is carried out by the state, isn't it classified as a crime against humanity under international law?

Sure I guess, but considering that international law of that nature is largely unenforceable, it's a moot point. What I was trying to get across is that honest, innocent people have far more to fear from police than they do any civilian criminal, and that civilians need to recognize this threat. We need to a) stop caring about crime that does not DIRECTLY affect us or our families, b) stop snitching on each other to the cops, and c) stop finding each other guilty in jury trials. If enough jurors vote not guilty always, regardless of the case and evidence presented and things WILL change, and police will start being held accountable.

 

[DugMachine]

That drugs are illegal. Make them legal already so we can stop hearing these freakin' hippies bitching and moaning about it.

 

[omega 616]

whats it called when an 18-legal- year old is having sex with a 16-minor- year old.
or is that against anything?

Yeah, rape/peadophillia (I am not checking how to spell that on google!).

Mine is actually this though, only in certain circumstances.

I said the last bit 'cos in the above example, I wouldn't consider that either. She is old enough in my country to have sex, so why does a body of water suddenly change conscenting sex to rape or kiddie fiddler?

Then again isn't age of consent in like Switzerland or Sweden about 12?

I also think "you can have sex at 16 but can't watch porn till 18" is stupid aswell. You can have sex but you can't look down or record yourself and watch it back.

Theres loads of these, "you can drive a 1.5 tonne car bullet at 60 MPH but you can't drink alcohol till your 18" ... since when has booze been more deadly than a car?

"You can buy a packet of cigs at 16 but there is no way your getting a tattoo for another 2 years! Don't be stupid" Who wrote this shit, REALLY!?

To the people saying animal abusers and drunk drivers are the worst law breakers, is thou for real? I think a mental scar that deeply fucks you up is alot worse than your doggie getting killed.

I am by no means saying it wasn't a bad thing or that it's ok to drink drive 'cos it's not but it's not as bad as rape or sexually assualting a child.

Also if you have seen the film Taken (and if you haven't you should!) that is fucking awful! I imagine it's what happened to madeleine mccann ... poor girl.

While on the subject of stupid laws, even though it isn't enforced in this ccountry ...

J walking, as far as I understand this law it is: you can't cross the road unless it is marked with a crossing sign or something. (obviously not word for word accurate)

Does the American government think it's people are that stupid they can't cross the road without help? What about if you live in the middle of the street and your bestest friend in the whole wide world lives directly opposite, do you have to walk to the end of the road, were your allowed to cross, get over the road and finally walk down to his house!?

What about if your mum calls you back in for tea? By the time you get home it's going to be stone cold.

 

[Kenami]

I work in law enforcement... so can I say all of them?
Most people I can sympathize, I understand life ain't easy. People make mistakes.

Except, I reserve a special hatred for drug dealers.

I'd elaborate but that would make people feel they need to argue with me and pick apart what I say. I've had that argument about 100 times already on this site and don't care to again.

No mate you don't have to elaborate at all on that.

Drug dealers literally pry on the addiction and need for others. In my opinion they have no regard for human life and are a simple waste of time and space. I'll probably get flamed for this by some drug dealer but before you quote and tirade towards me please remember this is my point of view and doesn't effect your life in the slightest.

 

[ZtH]

Scamming and its various types. Being a gamemaster is what started this. I saw some people that I'd hoestly start beating on in the street if I saw them. It's half stealing, half betrayal, and most people who do it successfully once have this infuriating pride in them that makes me want to peel the skin off them in the slowest way possible. This is why, when you have the tools, online detective work is awesome and satisfying.

Care to elaborate? What type of scamming ae you talking about? As a fellow game master I'm curious.

OT: Drunk driving enrages me since I have personal experiences related to it. Also rape, child abuse, and other crimes that leave a lasting impact. Pretty much everything in this thread save for pedophilia (without action) and young relationships (the 18yo 16yo example) causes ire for me.

 

[GoddyofAus]

In Australia, if you kill the person you're defending yourself from, it can be constituted as Manslaughter.

 

[radioactive lemur]

I work in law enforcement... so can I say all of them?
Most people I can sympathize, I understand life ain't easy. People make mistakes.

Except, I reserve a special hatred for drug dealers.

I'd elaborate but that would make people feel they need to argue with me and pick apart what I say. I've had that argument about 100 times already on this site and don't care to again.

No mate you don't have to elaborate at all on that.

Drug dealers literally pry on the addiction and need for others. In my opinion they have no regard for human life and are a simple waste of time and space. I'll probably get flamed for this by some drug dealer but before you quote and tirade towards me please remember this is my point of view and doesn't effect your life in the slightest.

I don't have any ill feelings towards you and I certainly am not a drug dealer (or even do drugs), but I disagree with your view and I will attempt to explain why calmly. A lot of people say drugs ruined their lives because they went to prison and lost their jobs/families etc. That is simply not an accurate statement. Drugs didn't do shit to them. COPS ruined their lives, by arresting them and sending them to prison for a crime that hurts no one except arguably themselves. People hear these stories and demand more enforcement which results in a vicious circle in which cops make a ton of money and countless people's lives are destroyed forever. If you ask me, cops are the ones with no regard for human life. Also, I'd like to present what the world's only honest politician has to say about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws7Zp41fByE&feature=player_embedded

 

[Arsen]

Anything thievery related.

"I've chosen not to feed myself by not doing anything to help society, by bettering myself, or changing to suite the times I live in".

In other words, people fail at the social darwinism aspect. Yeah, yeah...I know: He was beaten, raised in poverty, couldn't do anything to better himself...

It doesn't matter in my eyes. A child crying at the grocery store for a toy he wants and a man using a gun to get money to buy food are the same in this situation.

 

[mb16]

That drugs are illegal. Make them legal

The thing is with that people say "well its my body its my choice" and that may be all well and true. But if you look at current legal items like alcohol, there is a large amount of peer pressure from others to start drinking if you havent. This would also be the case for drugs, because at the moment only the "cool kids" do drugs and even then not that openly. But if they were legal more "normal" people would be pressurised into taking them.

 

[Sarpedon]

The fact that if you rear-end someone while driving, no matter the circumstances, it is ALWAYS your fault.

Some dumbass slammed on his brakes for absolutely no reason (He told me later he was seriously just screwing around when he did it) and I ran into the back of his car. I got a ticket and he got off scot-free.

 

[Aurgelmir]

I work in law enforcement... so can I say all of them?
Most people I can sympathize, I understand life ain't easy. People make mistakes.

Except, I reserve a special hatred for drug dealers.

I'd elaborate but that would make people feel they need to argue with me and pick apart what I say. I've had that argument about 100 times already on this site and don't care to again.

Well I agree with you


I also dislike petty crimes, the ones that usually go unpunished because no one is there to stop them... like urinating in a public place.

Why on Earth would you care about something like that? What's it to you?

Well do you like it if people piss on your front door?

 

[Anjel]

For me? Mostly killing defenceless people. I mean, killing a 20 year old man is incredibly wrong as well, but when you hear about school shootings... some people are just incredibly sick. And yes, terrorism comes under this heading.

They're my big two for personal reasons. I guess I should add blatant paedophilia*, murder and rape to that list although I've never been a victim (directly or indirectly) of any of them.


*I know paedophilia doesn't really need an explanation but for the record I'm referring to adults who are interested in children, not 17 year old lads getting dragged to court for having sexual contact with their 15 year old partner.

Just a small point but pedophilia itself isn't actually a crime, molesting children or watching child pornography is. It is possible to be a pedophile without actually commiting a crime.

OT: Not much in particular, though those who pirate games are in my opinion selfish.

Well... umm... I'll make up my own rules then, if you like little kids in 'that' way, you've already committed a crime. There. The law of Anjel is now in effect!

How is that any different to, for example, being gay?

We're repeatedly told that being gay is something you're born with, so how's it different from liking children?

Someone who just watches creepy animés doesn't actually harm anyone. The point in the law on child pornography is that if there is a real life person involved, someone clearly is harmed.

Well I'm gay so probably the right person to ask. Being gay is what some would call a sexual perversion - that phrase gets ripped a lot but I kind of agree with it. It's something out of the norm - I don't take that as an insult. The same as, for example, a lad who likes pornographic anime, or likes feet. No harm done, right? Right. Someone who likes children in 'that' way, whether they act on it or not also has a sexual perversion. They're not acting on it, so no harm done, right? Right. The problem with sexual perversions is that they are acted on, not always, but it happens. Whether you're gay, a cartoon fetishist, a granny lover, a foot fanatic or a kid lover. The problem with that last one there is that kids aren't mature enough to make that decision - hence the law.

In summary, and this is my opinion although I'd think that it's shared quite widely;

Two consenting adults of the same sex doing it - fine.
Jerking over cartoons - fine.
Loving those wrinklies - fine.
Licking feet - yack, fine.
Being in any way attracted to children - wrong.

 

[concrete89]

Wanton destruction.
I can see why people would steal stuff and sell it. But I've had one car and two bikes stolen, the car found as a burnt out wreck, the bikes stomped into uselessness. If they are not gonna sell or use them, why not just leave them, or even return them
?

 

[Addicted Muffin]

Age limits for buying games. As a gamestop employee, nothing hurts me more than telling a 17 year old he can't buy halo or gears because of the rating, when I know he has 20 more games like it at his house.
It's ridiculous, and besides, studies show that real sports lead to more violent behavior than M rated games.

 

[Naepa34]

Thievery.
I could go all deep and say that it probably comes from when I was younger and my parents would take the controllers/keyboard away from me when I played video games too much, but since then I can't STAND having stuff taken from me.
This also ties into simple authority negligence on the matter. A few years ago while packing to go home from school, I found out that several of my 360 games had been stolen. When I went to the dorm head, he essentially told me "sucks for you" and left it at that. At that point I was about ready to tear the entire place apart looking for them.
I did get a bit of personal satisfaction a few weeks ago, when I caught some guy breaking into my car. A parole violation and felony charges later (he had broken into several other cars in the area that night and taken expensive electronics), he's behind bars.